It doesn't, but certainly not all instruments/tools are created equal. A person hell-bent on digging holes can dig holes faster, and larger, with a backhoe than with a spade.
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It's pretty much impossible to use nukes without infringing on the rights of others (just from the environmental damage alone).
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Again, that's not true, and I posted sources saying as such. The US has far higher rates of murder, assault, and robbery than Canada. Canada has moderately higher property crime.
But please, continue trolling.
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The US also has way more diversity, immigration problems and more urban centers. But please, continue trolling.
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How in the fuck is what I said racist? I listed facts about the population in the US compared to Canada.
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Canada has a far larger proportion of foreign born citizens (20% vs 10%), a higher immigration rate, and a more urbanized population. You're wrong on pretty much every count, with the caveat that the US does have a larger "visible" minority population in blacks and latinos, but the vast majority are multi-generation American.
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The problem is, murderers are criminals who won't have an issue (morally or logistically) in obtaining a gun. But by "getting rid" of them you are removing the most effective tool of self defense against these murderers.
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First of all, urban centers...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...es_urban_areas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...tres_in_Canada
Then immigration. Yes Canada has immigration, but it doesn't have the issues we have with mexico in relation to the drug trade. The drug war and its effects have absolutely devastated Mexico and south america and this has resulted in a flood of low-income people into the US. It has also resulted in violence all along the border. Now I wish they would legalize drugs and open up immigration, but regardless of what you think about those issues, you can't simply ignore this when comparing countries.
Lastly, diversity. The US is a far more culturally diverse country than Canada, period, at least in relation to cultural problems, regardless of guns. You can't ignore the history of racism in this country and the legacy of slavery and discrimination. You can't ignore these when comparing countries.
So yeah, when you act like the only difference is guns, then you are simply trolling. Any solution to our gun violence has to pretty much start with talking about the silly failure that the war on drugs is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...es_urban_areas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...tres_in_Canada
Then immigration. Yes Canada has immigration, but it doesn't have the issues we have with mexico in relation to the drug trade. The drug war and its effects have absolutely devastated Mexico and south america and this has resulted in a flood of low-income people into the US. It has also resulted in violence all along the border. Now I wish they would legalize drugs and open up immigration, but regardless of what you think about those issues, you can't simply ignore this when comparing countries.
Lastly, diversity. The US is a far more culturally diverse country than Canada, period, at least in relation to cultural problems, regardless of guns. You can't ignore the history of racism in this country and the legacy of slavery and discrimination. You can't ignore these when comparing countries.
So yeah, when you act like the only difference is guns, then you are simply trolling. Any solution to our gun violence has to pretty much start with talking about the silly failure that the war on drugs is.
1. I'm not the one of us that's fucking retarded so your fucking retarded code words don't work on me.
2. Insinuating that the problem is the higher amount of brown people here is the height of racism, you fucking retard.
Characterizing the drug war as a problem of immigration is fucking racist.
Characterizing the legacy of racism as a problem of diversity is fucking racist.
Seriously, are you out of your mind?
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The legacy of the drug war has absolutely devastated mexico and has resulted in a flood of illegal immigration into mexico as people try to get a better life. You think it is racist to say that? Are you completely fucking stupid?
I am not characterizing racism as a problem of diversity you stupid shit. Im saying that the US is much more diverse than canada and has a history of racial strife and discrimination.
Anyway, par for the course. Have a anti-gun nut point out how Canada is less violent than the US. Point out why that is the case. Get accused of being a racist.
So saying the majority of the gun related murders in Chicago were committed by black males makes me a racist?
This is why our country can't accomplish anything anymore. Our society become so enamored with the need to be politically correct and not say or do anything negative about groups of people. When we can't even accurately identify the problem how can we fix it.
Can't we worry less about being racist and worry more about why these certain races are doing what they do in the urban centers?
A spade is a spade
This is why our country can't accomplish anything anymore. Our society become so enamored with the need to be politically correct and not say or do anything negative about groups of people. When we can't even accurately identify the problem how can we fix it.
Can't we worry less about being racist and worry more about why these certain races are doing what they do in the urban centers?
A spade is a spade
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I wouldn't lose sleep over anything Mikhail says, he's always wrong and usually in a wildly retarded fashion.
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20% of all immigration happens to the U.S., 3% goes to Canada. We would probably accept a higher % of total population too, if 1.) Our native foreign born population didn't already eclipse your entire countries population. 2.) We could pick and choose only high productivity, low social cost workers--you know, because you *DON'T* have a land border with an impoverished third world nation that floods nearly 55% of your foreign born population.
Tell you what, you take half our poor, starving, uneducated foreign born Latinos and we'll gladly accept all of your scientists and engineers. Okay? I don't think you Canadians will jump at that, considering 60% of your foreign influx comes from Asian countries, 20% from European and you only let about 10% of those poor Latino's in. The U.S., on the other hand, has 55% of it's foreign citizens from Latin countries, 10% from Europe and 27% from Asia. (Sources for the numbersCanadaandU.S.)
There is *no* comparison between the origination of our Foreign born--you guys get as much discretion as we get from Asia/Europe. Something like 80% of your citizens come speaking English--you know why? Because they were well educated before you let them in. Immigration "problems" does not mean total immigration. It means *problems* with immigration.
In terms of legal immigration? I have serious doubts if we include illegal...but I don't know the numbers off hand, so I can't be sure.
No, you don't. The U.S. is more urbanized. 79.5 vs 82.5
Not really. The U.S. is far more diverse, we have far greater immigration problems (Problems being the key word) and we have more urban centers. Those are all true statements. Like I said, if you want to swap your entire population of legal scientists, engineers, and other educated workers--for our legion of illegal, uneducated, impoverished masses...I'm sure we will swap very quickly.
But quantifying "immigration problems" as "total immigration" like you did in your post is just silly. Immigration is a GREAT thing when you can control it. I'm all for the U.S. plucking the best and brightest from the rest of the world--that's awesome. It doesn't work so well though when you share a land border with a near failed state.
But this question has been asked before....Why can Canada be the eternal good guy on immigration.And much like world politics, trade and a slew of other issues--Canada can look good, because it sits back and lets the U.S. handle the bad.
That means the drug war (not the immigration) is the problem you stupid fuck.
Yes you fucking did you stupid bastard. Right fucking here:
You fucking explicitly say that diversity is the problem and then act like that's even fucking remotely equivalent to racial discrimination being the problem. Yes, it's true that if this country were less diverse, then the impacts of racial discrimination would be less of an issue, but that doesn't mean it's reasonable to place the blame on the diversity.Not understanding why that's the case tags you, quite clearly, as a fucking racist.
Hey dipshit, I'M AGAINST GUN CONTROL. The fact that we agree on the matter doesn't mean I have to accept your fucktarded racist apologetics. Seriously, do the gene pool a favor and fucking go kill yourself.
Insinuating that those murders occurredbecauseof the blackness of those males makes you a racist. Not understanding that that's what you're insinuating makes you a fucking retard.
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Your source of course being a report from Canada in which they redefine violent crime, etc.
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Haha, fucking retarded liberal has to start accusing people of racism because they don't have an argument. It's the first sign of an idiot. You have no point, so you're going to try to quarantine khalid's speech by calling him a racist. You, sir, are a fucking retard.