Gunman opens fire at Oregon mall outside of Portland

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Flunklesnarkin_sl

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I'm not sure anything should be changed from our laws as a result of this shooting.

I don't think there is anything wrong with the weapon he owned. I'm sure they will be looking into how he acquired the gun, but there usually aren't any red flags on that kind of stuff because of background checks.

If people are scared the malls could be dangerous put in metal detectors or extra security, I don't think it should be mandatory though. Safety is only ever an illusion anyways imo.
 
Fuse

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Etoille_sl said:
You were saying Tuco?
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This is a pretty reasonable conversation, so far.

I am quite ambivlent about gun control/rights. It's a complex issue that is impossible to discuss on a national level, which I think was your point, largely because of the lobbying efforts of certain orginizations, especially those that have initials like 'NRA'.

I'd venture to guess that it will come out that the dude who did this was mentally unstable, there were people in his life who knew this, and he didn't get help for whatever reason and I think alot of tragedy could be prevented focusing on mental health issues. But of course if the government trys to have a hand in that, then socalism, right?
 
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BurnemWizfyre_sl said:
My apologies then, I only own one gun a Smith and Wesson .357 with pearl grips and fully chrome (minus the handle) that my grandfather left me, its a nice gun and I keep it maintained. Other then that gun, I am not very technical with guns or rifles.
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They even make speed loaders for all the old revolvers.
 
Burnem Wizfyre

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Zodiac_sl said:
Why? The top fires a way more devastating round and is a more modern firearm, they will both cycle at the same rate.
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Are you saying that shotgun can be fired as quickly and reloaded as quickly as that rifle? I know for a fact it cant hold the same amount of rounds, I am not that gun savy so excuse my ignorance.
 
Zodiac

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BurnemWizfyre_sl said:
My apologies then, I only own one gun a Smith and Wesson .357 with pearl grips and fully chrome (minus the handle) that my grandfather left me, its a nice gun and I keep it maintained. Other then that gun, I am not very technical with guns or rifles.
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Thank you for your honesty. The thing that gets gun owners (me clearly), is when people start calling for bans and restrictions on gun types that they know nothing about. I'm fine with having assault rifles restricted, but when you come up with stuff like the AWB and Cali's crazy laws what you get is a ban on "black guns" and "scary looking guns", and that shit is retarded.
 
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BurnemWizfyre_sl said:
Are you saying that shotgun can be fired as quickly and reloaded as quickly as that rifle? I know for a fact it cant hold the same amount of rounds, I am not that gun savy so excuse my ignorance.
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AA-12 Semi Automatic shotgun Reporting for duty. I believe this is legal to own for civilians.

Best Zombie Apocalypse weapon out there.

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Zodiac

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BurnemWizfyre_sl said:
Are you saying that shotgun can be fired as quickly and reloaded as quickly as that rifle? I know for a fact it cant hold the same amount of rounds, I am not that gun savy so excuse my ignorance.
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A semi-auto shotgun with a 8 round tube can cycle just as fast as that rifle. Not reloaded as fast but they do make shotguns with magazines that could be.
 
mkopec

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That shot gun is close range though, about 50 meters, while the rifle will go to 300+ if you aim. Why not have both?
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Fuse_sl said:
This is a pretty reasonable conversation, so far.

I am quite ambivlent about gun control/rights. It's a complex issue that is impossible to discuss on a national level, which I think was your point, largely because of the lobbying efforts of certain orginizations, especially those that have initials like 'NRA'.

I'd venture to guess that it will come out that the dude who did this was mentally unstable, there were people in his life who knew this, and he didn't get help for whatever reason and I think alot of tragedy could be prevented focusing on mental health issues. But of course if the government trys to have a hand in that, then socalism, right?
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At least you qualified it with 'pretty' reasonable. Ellesdee's post was when I stopped reading and posted that.

Its also not about legal vs illegal as I mentioned earlier but I digress.
 
Burnem Wizfyre

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Man I was given a picture and THAT shotgun is CLEARLY different then the one in the picture, no way you put that shotgun shell cartridge or whatever it is called on the previous picture. That gun should be made illegal.
 
Gavinmad

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Except the whole semi-auto vs burst/automatic fire distinction is arbitrary as fuck. Give me an M14 in a crowded mall and I guarantee you I'll be higher on the leaderboards than some chump blazing away with his MP5 or AK47 modded to fire full auto.

Fuse touched on the real issue though. The fact that the dude used a gun is completely meaningless. The problem is that he was a mentally ill dude who was going to hurt people whether he had access to a firearm or not. The fault lies on his family/friends and the health care system, not guns.
 
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