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Noodleface

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Yeah, it's gotta be the DHEA after reading around on it a little bit. It has to be interacting with your medication. You're making yourself hyper insulin sensitive.

Explains the headaches. And you should feel a nervous energy, I would think.

Which is useful to know. You can probably find some effective pills that don't include DHEA.
It's tough to say because a lot of publications say it is worth diabetics taking DHEA, among other things.

I can't say I feel.better on this pill though
 

Noodleface

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Heh what pill/brand is it. For science and all.
It's this stuff. Honestly I knew it'd be kind of crap but I didn't expect that fast of a negative result

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pharmakos

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That ingredient list is kinda funny though. They're just throwing everything in it and hoping something works aren't they?

The folic acid, DHEA, and L-Arginine are probably the only 3 that actually do anything.

Taking 20mg of L-Arginine is essentially the same as taking 0mg tho. Half the ingredients are in there as your idea, "throw it all at the wall and see what sticks," the other half is just to make the list longer to have consumers falsely believe that it will do more than the next brand.
 
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iannis

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It's tough to say because a lot of publications say it is worth diabetics taking DHEA, among other things.

I can't say I feel.better on this pill though

Yeah, I think it's the combination of metformin + DHEA + your specific insulin tolerance. I saw studies that were replacing standard treatments with DHEA treatments for gestational diabetes. The combination and the dose seems to be less than spectacular. says a post meal 65 blood glucose.

I wonder if they're suggesting it for people who have real issues with management of the disease. Not all diabetics are created equal.

The metformin inhibits natural DHEA production, inhibits your liver from producing glucose, inhibits intestinal absorbtion of glucose, and promotes insulin sensitivity. The DHEA by itself increases insulin sensitivity. Your body seems to have adapated very well to your current dosage, so adding extra cellular uptake into the mix without adding extra glucose into the mix just bottomed out your blood sugar. Too much of a good thing. I mean 65 isn't that low. 65 after a meal damn sure is though. It went -somewhere-. If it wasn't in your blood there's only 2 other places it could be.

Quick. Drink your pee. FOR SCIENCE.

There are no interaction warning listed anywhere I looked though. So maybe I'm just full of shit. I don't think so though.
 

jayrebb

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thats an insanely low amount of maca and the tongkat ali is straight fugazi. Absolutely no probability of real tongkat. If you cant use DHEA then you certainly cant use Tongkat Ali an even stronger potent steroidal product that contains active hormones.

toss it.
 
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alavaz

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I thought I read, and I'm too lazy to source it at the moment, that DHEA was all but worthless in men and has some benefit for women under certain conditions. I was kinda half joking before, but abstaining for even a week will probably help out quite a bit. I'd also be willing to bet based on your postings that lack of sleep is a big contributor too.
 

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And for the other stuff... It's sad but... Im pretty sure I'm looking down the ED barrel. I mean I've been diabetic for like 12 years, I'm 35, I guess thinking back on it's probably been coming for awhile. I never really gave it much thought until it got pretty bad. I kind of feel weird posting this shit because everyone knows. But it is what it is.
 

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And for the other stuff... It's sad but... Im pretty sure I'm looking down the ED barrel. I mean I've been diabetic for like 12 years, I'm 35, I guess thinking back on it's probably been coming for awhile. I never really gave it much thought until it got pretty bad. I kind of feel weird posting this shit because everyone knows. But it is what it is.
I will never understand why we as a group are embarrassed about ED.
 

Noodleface

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Either way I'm tossing the shit. I only took 4 pills but 65 was enough to scare me away. I'd have to drop some of my medication but it also seems like it's a bit flimsy because this is some random supplement
 

Noodleface

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I will never understand why we as a group are embarrassed about ED.
I can't understand it either. It has nothing to do with my wife not being hot or something I'm actively doing. Just my body being a pile of shit. But the thought of going to the pharmacy and getting Viagra from the hot as fuck chicks there seems embarrassing.
 

a_skeleton_05

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I will never understand why we as a group are embarrassed about ED.

Decades of conditioning in society when it comes to tying manhood to worthiness as a man is why. If you're not rocking a raging 9 incher half the day, and fuck for 4 hours straight, then you're just not a man. Few of us actually believe this, but in a group setting it becomes one of those things that people latch onto to fit in. It's our version of the shit women have to deal with when it comes to beauty.
 

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And for the other stuff... It's sad but... Im pretty sure I'm looking down the ED barrel. I mean I've been diabetic for like 12 years, I'm 35, I guess thinking back on it's probably been coming for awhile. I never really gave it much thought until it got pretty bad. I kind of feel weird posting this shit because everyone knows. But it is what it is.

God damn it, have you talked to your doctor or not at this point? If not, stop everything and schedule an appointment right the fuck now.
 

a_skeleton_03

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I can't understand it either. It has nothing to do with my wife not being hot or something I'm actively doing. Just my body being a pile of shit. But the thought of going to the pharmacy and getting Viagra from the hot as fuck chicks there seems embarrassing.
That's why I did Roman but mine was also compounded by the fact that I can't lie to the doctor and say "I want to see just how long I can keep a boner but I don't have ED, will my insurance cover a prescription for this?".
 
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Frenzied Wombat

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I can't understand it either. It has nothing to do with my wife not being hot or something I'm actively doing. Just my body being a pile of shit. But the thought of going to the pharmacy and getting Viagra from the hot as fuck chicks there seems embarrassing.

I don't have an ED problem but on the rare occasion that I'm going on a vacation and bringing a hottie along, I'll always give my doc a call and ask for a "performance guarantee" and he'll prescribe me a few Cialis (which are expensive as fuck BTW). Don't see why you give a fuck what some pharma tech thinks, but if it honestly bother you so much just pick it up at a drive thru pharmacy or get your wife to pick it up..
 

Noodleface

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God damn it, have you talked to your doctor or not at this point? If not, stop everything and schedule an appointment right the fuck now.
It'll be at my next checkup. I'm always at the goddamn doctor , I don't like going in between
 
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iannis

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That's why I did Roman but mine was also compounded by the fact that I can't lie to the doctor and say "I want to see just how long I can keep a boner but I don't have ED, will my insurance cover a prescription for this?".

I know doctors that would go for it.
 

jayrebb

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I thought I read, and I'm too lazy to source it at the moment, that DHEA was all but worthless in men and has some benefit for women under certain conditions. I was kinda half joking before, but abstaining for even a week will probably help out quite a bit. I'd also be willing to bet based on your postings that lack of sleep is a big contributor too.

Its a neurosteroid. Its a part of most TRT protocols now at advanced clinics.

So yes, you inject testosterone and you also take DHEA as a part of that protocol. You have to be at the bleeding edge to know about this stuff. There's a whole cascade reaction they've been working on reconstructing for the last decade. The catalyst for this cascade reaction being the injection of exogenous testosterone and the consequences on the body (i.e. interruption of normal DHEA metabolism and production). High level researchers have been going back and reconstructing what your full hormone profile should look like and how to accomplish that.

Why did this start and why do people care? Simple. It started with a quest for what's called "morning wood". That's the standard being used right now at high level TRT clinics. If you don't have morning wood, one of these advanced protocols can potentially help with that. The doctors were able to zero in on cortisol balance as a major factor in morning wood, as well as several other hormones. No morning wood means your TRT protocol may be garbage and unhealthy.

A lot of guys are taking several different hormones as a result. Just simply taking testosterone is dark ages stuff.

DHEA is also good for lowering SHBG a bit, which happens to spike when using any type of ester testosterone.
 
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alavaz

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Its a neurosteroid. Its a part of most TRT protocols now at advanced clinics.

So yes, you inject testosterone and you also take DHEA as a part of that protocol. You have to be at the bleeding edge to know about this stuff. There's a whole cascade reaction they've been working on reconstructing for the last decade. The catalyst for this cascade reaction being the injection of exogenous testosterone and the consequences on the body (i.e. interruption of normal DHEA metabolism and production). High level researchers have been going back and reconstructing what your full hormone profile should look like and how to accomplish that.

Why did this start and why do people care? Simple. It started with a quest for what's called "morning wood". That's the standard being used right now at high level TRT clinics. If you don't have morning wood, one of these advanced protocols can potentially help with that. The doctors were able to zero in on cortisol balance as a major factor in morning wood, as well as several other hormones. No morning wood means your TRT protocol may be garbage and unhealthy.

A lot of guys are taking several different hormones as a result. Just simply taking testosterone is dark ages stuff.

DHEA is also good for lowering SHBG a bit, which happens to spike when using any type of ester testosterone.

I mean, I could see it being useful as part of a panel of hormones / prehormones. I was just trying to point out that I had read an article that said going out to walmart and buying a bottle of DHEA and throwing it down with your multivitamin each morning isn't going to have much of an effect on testosterone levels at all (in most men) and ergo not make your dick measurably harder (in most men).