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The Ancient_sl said:

That's a bad card. Think about what cards it's going to copy stats when played on curve. Couple that with the fact it's complete garbage on an empty board.

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I like the card. It's not an auto include, which we don't want anyway, but it can definitely see some play, and might even be broken in some cases.

It's not a card you would play on curve, so you wouldn't want it in your starting hand. It's for mid & late.

The taunt makes it good. But also different then sunfury and argus in that you create a big thing with taunt to protect your other big thing that has an affect.

It also has synergy with buffs. Priest might play this in a deck that has divine spirit. Or paladin after they use kings to create 2 big minions for 8 mana with 5/5 stats at worst, 1 with taunt.

A malygos or ysera are hard clears but easily silenced. Now you can get another 4/12 and it'll have taunt for only 4 mana.

An OP combo if not nerfed will be molten giants with this. Sure, we've always had faceless, but it costs 5 mana and you don't get the taunt. 8/8 with taunt is 8 mana worth of stats.

There's also the possibility of playing it turn 5 after mountain giant turn 4.

Crusher shaman could try to play this after earth elemental, it's another earth elemental but for 1 less mana and no overload.


Maybe it never sees play, but at 4 mana it's a very fair cost imo. It'll be tried for sure

I think faceless shambler will be dope in a handlock deck, turn 4 mountain giant/drake, turn 5 shambler is pretty strong.

Zoo might like it because it's another card that combos with PO. Works well with an early sea giant too.

I think the taunt will prove to be valuable. We're losing deathlord and Belcher and there aren't any big taunt minions outside dragons.

Again, it's not a auto include by any means, but it's not far off from argus in terms of value.

Argus is +2/+2 max and a 2/3 body and 2 taunts.

This is 1 taunt but can be a big body and has good synergy with buffs, giants and other big minions. So instead of a 9/9 molten with taunt and a 2/3 body, if you had this card it would be an 8/8 and another 8/8 with taunt. Argus is much more versatile for sure and 2 taunts are better than 1, but this card costs the same and in some decks could be a lot better than Argus.

Hope that clears it up!

Of course it's completely different, I think you're missing the point. There are decks that rely on big taunt minions... namely Handlock. Also Priest.
These decks were able to use Belchers and Deathlords for the past year+ but now they'll need something else.
These decks also don't care too much about the Argus buff, they want the taunt.
These decks also don't like overextending too much, so buffing more than 1 target isn't as necessary or desirable.

Argus is very good and much more versatile, but this new card isn't far off in terms of *value* and there is some merit for the card to exist.

Notice how there aren't really any huge taunt minions in the game unless you buff them. Biggest taunts are Earth Elemental, ironbark, and AoW. Big taunts are annoying as hell and in some cases instantly win games. (Priest with Velen's Deathlord).

This minion gives you a second giant minion, one of which will have taunt. That's practically instant win when it happens, unlike Argus/Sunfury that is a very tiny body.

I can easily see this card being used on turn 5 with Power Overwhelming, or on a Mountain giant, or later in the game with Moltens (if they arent nerfed). I think warlock is losing a heck of a lot for Standard and could make good use of this card for sure. Priest is a maybe. They are losing velens, so it would be a weird priest deck to really make any use.