Theres so many warrior decks now it's not funny.
I wonder if the charge card will be adjusted
I wonder if the charge card will be adjusted
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Angelwatch
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I capped out at rank 6 and decided to just stop there.
In my opinion the new ranking system has good points and bad points. The good is that it is far more robust than the old system where anyone could, eventually, be a 3 star masters player. With lots of ranks you get a much better idea of where you actually stand. The bad is the ability to lose ranks. The reason that this is so bad is because it leads to lots of netdecking and only the most competitive decks being played in ranked mode. There is no room to test a deck when the ability to derank is very likely as you tweak things. Personally I think you should be able to derank but I'd like to see stepping stones that you can't drop below (every 5 ranks makes sense to me as that is when a new star is added and the border changes).
Personally I don't play nearly as much as I used to under the old system. I got to rank 6 and realized I wasn't going to go much further so pretty much stopped playing outside of finishing the daily quest in casual mode. Even though I had nothing to play for under the old system (being one of many 3 star master players), I actually played a lot more to test out different deck ideas and tweak things.
In my opinion the new ranking system has good points and bad points. The good is that it is far more robust than the old system where anyone could, eventually, be a 3 star masters player. With lots of ranks you get a much better idea of where you actually stand. The bad is the ability to lose ranks. The reason that this is so bad is because it leads to lots of netdecking and only the most competitive decks being played in ranked mode. There is no room to test a deck when the ability to derank is very likely as you tweak things. Personally I think you should be able to derank but I'd like to see stepping stones that you can't drop below (every 5 ranks makes sense to me as that is when a new star is added and the border changes).
Personally I don't play nearly as much as I used to under the old system. I got to rank 6 and realized I wasn't going to go much further so pretty much stopped playing outside of finishing the daily quest in casual mode. Even though I had nothing to play for under the old system (being one of many 3 star master players), I actually played a lot more to test out different deck ideas and tweak things.
Mures
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Yeah, I caught myself doing the same thing as I moved up to 8, then 7, then 6, and then I just said fuck it, I don't care what rank I am. I haven't been playing as much ladder though because I've still been spending a lot of time in arenas because there are still a few cards I'd like to craft. Mainly looking to get a tinkmaster and black knight now, not sure which one I'll craft first.
Sinzar
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You can still play casual mode without changing your rank. Strangely though in the old system, I found the opponents in casual play far more challenging than playing in ranked. Now, I find when playing casual mode I face easier opponents more often than ranked.
Nozdormu is semi-useful purely for the metagame aspect of "No, make your playsNOW". Some people simply cannot cope with that and make hilarious misplays.
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Problem with nozdormu is every now and then it fucks up and you get like 30secs instead which is ample time to think stuff through, and even when it doesn't bug it's highly dependant on the hand situation of your opponent to do anything, quite often lategame both players are already more or less out of options so playing in 15secs when you have no cards isn't particularily complicated. Only in a few cases does it even do anything. I disenchanted mine at least, saw no real point in it, it was that or prophet velen and I figure if I want to play priest at some point velen is a solid card. 3rd legendary I got was Leeroy so that's nice, fits well in a lot of decks.
yeah, Nozdormu would be way better if it was a cheap stealth card instead of a big 8/8. say like a 3 mana 0/2 with the same effect. Playing it when you have an empty board means they have to decide if AE'ing one card is worth it, and turn 4 & 5 usually have a lot of different ways you can go making the decisions more impactful.
I'm really considering trying to make a priest deck that is anti-aggro enough to beat lockrush, but still has enough late-game to get the edge on druids and paladins.... I dunno.
The thing I hate most about constructed now is the rock/paper/scissors balancing. Really wish Blizzard would get away from that bullshit, it plagued WoW for far too long and gives me literally ZERO hope for heroes of the storm to be balanced in any meaningful way.
I'm really considering trying to make a priest deck that is anti-aggro enough to beat lockrush, but still has enough late-game to get the edge on druids and paladins.... I dunno.
The thing I hate most about constructed now is the rock/paper/scissors balancing. Really wish Blizzard would get away from that bullshit, it plagued WoW for far too long and gives me literally ZERO hope for heroes of the storm to be balanced in any meaningful way.
Frustrating thing for me is I watch a lot of streams of legendary players and have played their decks, played my decks, etc., and when I watch their streams I make the same decision looking at their board that they did. Not sure why I can't get past rank 4.
it's just the number of games they play. if your deck is consistent it will move up, and then it's just a matter of getting lucky to avoid your counters, and playing enough games that your wins steadily pull ahead of your losses.
Byr
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a lot of it is what kind of decks your facing at your rank. The legendary players play against the top decks, so you start seeing less aggro, more warrior OTK and druids. Rank 4 i bet you still see some murlocs, lots of warlock aggro, etc.
I have a ton of games under my belt though. More than at least a couple of people I know who are legendary, one of whom got there playing a deck I gave them (which is frustrating). Maybe it really comes down to luck and hitting my counters a lot, but since there isn't anything I can do about that...
@Byr: Legendary has at least four people in the top 50 who play Murlocs consistently. It is a deck you face all the way up. Ditto Druid and Warrior OTK (at least since Strifecro released his deck list). I'd say you maybe see more Rogues in legendary then you do at rank 4, but beyond that there isn't much difference.
I played vs Murloc rush once today. I played five Warlocks total, three were running giants/control (Veev played it most of yesterday and today, hence the spike), one was running the same kind of deck I am. That is about the same ratio. I won all of them to, a lot of people play Warlock mirror incorrectly. If I ran into nothing but Warlocks I'd be happy.
I think I am going to rank back up to 4 with Warlock and switch to a Paladin mid-range deck I've been working on. I'd switch to Warlock control but it plays so differently I don't want to cross my wire.
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Got killed earlier by an OTK alextraza in arena with 28health left when opponent was at 3 and dead next turn to a starfire. Good times. He had some shit on the board but it wasn't threatening since I had so much health plus I couldn't clear it efficiently, molten giant and shit.
Raign
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My personal favourite is 'Brawl', the warrior card that sweeps the board and leaves only one mob standing between both sides. I have yet to see it not pick the warriors minion in no less than 8 plays of the card and in every case but 2 I have had more creatures on the board. Horrible luck with the random aspects of this game *sigh*
Angelwatch
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I binged a little bit and bought 30 packs. The bad news is that I only got 1 Legendary out of that. The even worse news is that 1 Legendary was Malygos (which makes my 3rd of him). However, I was able to disenchant a bunch of stuff and I ended up crafting Ragnaros, The Black Knight and Bloodmage Thalnos. I went ahead and took Strifecro's Druid control deck and modified it a bit and so far am having pretty good results with it.
I felt weird about crafting a 2 cost 1/1 Legendary card (Bloodmage) but in the end I decided that he fits in a LOT of my decks since I like Mage. The Black Knight was another one where common sense won out after debating awhile. Other than using Silence, The Black Knight has a very unique effect that simply cannot be substituted. After all, Silence might get rid of the Taunt but still leaves the threat on the board. So he fits into a lot of decks.
I felt weird about crafting a 2 cost 1/1 Legendary card (Bloodmage) but in the end I decided that he fits in a LOT of my decks since I like Mage. The Black Knight was another one where common sense won out after debating awhile. Other than using Silence, The Black Knight has a very unique effect that simply cannot be substituted. After all, Silence might get rid of the Taunt but still leaves the threat on the board. So he fits into a lot of decks.