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slippery

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Firebat's Southsea Deckhand/Faceless Miracle deck was my favorite so far. I guess Forsen was using it first but that's the first time I've seen it used in a tournament. Even 3-0'd his opponent.
Forsen has said it wasn't his and that he got it from someone. It was an off name though, someone that didn't stick out to me.
 

slippery

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Frodan Artosis casting is pretty lol most of the time.

Edit: Frodan is also the master of how to bm your opponent on the win
 

slippery

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You know, I find it funny that they sit directly across from each other at tournaments like this and don't interact at all. I would talk a ton and play mind games with my opponent. Just take their focus off the game
 

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Damn... Just a Truesilver or two and maybe a Stormwind Champion and a Boulderfist and this would be a roflstomp. Blood Knight woulda been nice. Potentially 9 Divine Shields here.
 

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Don't they have headphones in so they can't hear the crowd/casting? I do agree if they don't have headphones on I would be talking to my opponent just like playing a game of poker trying to get some sort of tells off of them/distract them.
 

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They didn't have headphones. Also I don't think there was a real crowd for this, look like they just put a set together.
The whole format was dumb, and they have better Hearthstone casters then Azeal, and Artosis.

Maybe for Blizzcon it will be different, because the format they had was pretty much network gameshow vs the esport they claim to be,

I hate invitationals anyway, Much rather real pools, and let some of these guys work themselves to top 8.

Also we get you want the guy who heads the Hearthstone division on the cast, but at what point does that laugh just become annoying.
Just put him on for a couple minutes, then boot him. He had nothing to say anyway.
 

slippery

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I love the laugh personally! I will agree that Azeal has no place there casting. Frodan is the best HS caster imo. Artosis is passable, Realz is boring. I'm not sure who else I would want casting with Frodan though. I think Frodan and Artosis at least have good chemistry together.

This wasn't invitational at all. This is the world championships finalists. You know the whole top 16 etc then final tournament in each region etc. All these guys earned their spot.

I think they are playing in a partitioned off room for this one.
 

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This wasn't invitational at all. This is the world championships finalists. You know the whole top 16 etc then final tournament in each region etc. All these guys earned their spot.
From what? the Heartstone ladder, or actual seeded tournaments they played through the year..

If it's from the ladder then who cares. Ladder doesn't even relate to tournament play whatsoever.

Format should be like every other esport, play majors to seed for the big event then run pools at a separate event, and then the Finals at Blizzcon.
What are people scared of, that their favorites wont make it to the top..
 

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That would be a 192 player qualifier, not accounting for overlap for players who made top 16 on the ladder more then once.
Also not accounting for multiple regions, so that would be more then 192 players outside of the NA ladder.

Lets just say it was 192, Where exactly was the qualifier with 192 people held then...

Not saying you are wrong, but I would like to see exactly how they are running this because the original Hearthstone invitational was a sham.
 

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I remember Reynad playing in his qualifier and losing and being salty about it but I don't actually know the process.
 

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It was complicated. There was a 130 person tournament, played in groups, for EU and NA. That was about a month ago. It consisted of top 16 ladder for each season, various people invited for major tournament wins, and several "last-call" tournaments. The top 16 ladder wasn't enough to fill it out in any case, because of overlap, smurf accounts, and double qualification (you could participate in NA or EU, not both). That narrowed it down to 16 players. Per region. This tournament is to get it down to 4.

Now 16 people go to Blizzcon. 4 from NA, 4 from EU, 4 from China, 2 from Korea, and 2 from Taiwan. The Asian qualifiers were different, I'm actually not clear on what they did exactly.
 

slippery

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It's been an ongoing event for a while now.

Initially it was top 16 legend in one of like 4 or 5 seasons. There was also spots for winning certain tournaments like Dreamhack. The better overall you did over all this time you got seeded higher/lower and you got matched based on seed.

Then there was a tournament from all those people to narrow it down to top 16 in each region. Then there was the top 16 tournament a few weeks/a month ago for the regions to narrow it down to top 4 from each region. Now they are all combined so you have the top 16 from everywhere. They have it broke down to 4 groups, 1 person from each region in each group. 1 NA, 1 EU, 1 Asia, and 1 either China or Taiwan (there are 2 from each region there instead of 4 like the others). They are doing double elim from the groups now. I'm not sure how they're doing top 8 after that, but I think it's a second set of groups with the top 8. 2 2-0's and 2 2-1's in each group.
 

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Several people made top 16 on multiple months, so that would cut the number down a bit.
lets assume you are correct and we will half the NA ladder in half that = 96 players

then add the other ladders I know of which are Korea, and Europe ( There may be more)

that is 96*3 = 288 players

with the new info Slippery just said that would be 320 players since there would be no overlap if they are taking top 16 legend in 5 seasons,

If you are saying they randomly picked the top 16 legendary ladder players out of one season out of 5 ( that makes no god damn sense btw) then it is 64 players, and any other tournaments they deemed worthy of seeding points.
 

slippery

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I don't think you really read and understood what Master and I said. Those people qualified, then they had tournament for the region to narrow it down to what we have now.

Also they always took 16 people from each season into the pool. If you doubled up you just got higher seed points but they took like #17 to add to the pool instead.
 

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I don't think you really read and understood what Master and I said. Those people qualified, then they had tournament for the region to narrow it down to what we have now.
You mean the part where he said he doesn't even know how they qualified the other 2 ladders? yeah I read it, and maybe you don't understand it.

Also they always took 16 people from each season into the pool. If you doubled up you just got higher seed points but they took like #17 to add to the pool instead.
Initially it was top 16 legend inoneof like 4 or 5 seasons
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This is in total contradiction of what you posted earlier, so that tells me you aren't clear on it either.

To qualify for NA it would still be a substantial amount of players. Please post the stream for the NA qualifier with even half of those players, and Ill google the brackets.

130 seems way to low if they are taking 17th seed on 2 ladders ,and places from major tournaments even with double qualifiers, and smurf accounts.
And how do they prove Smurf accounts anyway or double qualifiers, wouldn't the players just qualify their team members in to assure them a possible win if that player reached their pool.
 

slippery

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Final matches to figure out top 16 for NA from the 130 players or whatever the number was -Twitch
Final matches of top 16 NA -Twitch

Etc. I feel like you're just being intentionally dense.

You could find the rest of the matches associated there and EU in the past broadcasts
 

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Etc. I feel like you're just being intentionally dense.
Or I'm smelling some bullshit.

The fact that you guys are confused yourselves, and still can't lock all the ladders down makes me think that shenanigans are going on.
Because tournaments are run so very well in video games...

Also I just looked up the brackets for phase 1 and it was 64 players from the NA ladder. Which means 128 players from NA and Europe.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/hearthsto...all_Tournament


The fact is this should have never been run off the ladder to begin with especially since they are seeding some major tournaments. Just seed off the Majors, which was my original point to begin with.

So much easier, and everything is recorded.