Hearthstone

Fawe_sl said:

Nef is awesome imo, but only if you're also running Ysera. Ysera is a better pick between the 2

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To get bounce to repeat him? There's lots of bounce methods.

Fawe_sl said:

spending 9 mana isnt worth trying to bounce though

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Then what's the reasoning to use him with Ysera? I fail to see any synergy besides bouncing from her pool.

Edit: Oh nevermind, I got your context now - just he's "Second best at 9 mana" not meaning to imply there's a synergy - your phrasing choice was weird to me.

Fawe_sl said:

I've had nef give me some clutch cards almost everytime. I guess that's the thing with him though, spells are usually powerful. There aren't too many duds tbh. Eye for an Eye is probably the worst you could get.

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Getting deadly poison and blade furry as a mage is even worse.

Totemic Might and Sense Demons are the worst ones to get.

I am having a lot of fun with giants mage, its extemely good vs face decks such as hunter and zoo decks, and extra satisfying because they always get you close to death then suddenly get swamped with giants. Can almost feel the rage accross the screen. Love it.

I didn't even think about using spare parts with flamewaker. durrr. back to the drawing board.

this reynad stream is great. rank 20 life

Fawe_sl said:

ahh, yea, gotcha.

I've had nef give me some clutch cards almost everytime. I guess that's the thing with him though, spells are usually powerful. There aren't too many duds tbh. Eye for an Eye is probably the worst you could get.

I was given Sacrifical Pact against a warlock and I was able to use it on a non-Jaraxxus infernal same turn since its 0 mana. Would have been better if he was Jaraxxus so I could have insta killed him though. Maybe 1 day!

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Oh neat, I didn't realize it was just "spells" - I was thinking it was any class card, that does make it a bit nicer than I'd thought. (I've not toyed with him at all yet - wife was brick walling on Nef a bit so didn't want to start toying before she could)

Derpa_sl said:

Getting deadly poison and blade furry as a mage is even worse.

Totemic Might and Sense Demons are the worst ones to get.

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None of those sound bad with Flamewalker, heh.

Sense Demons isn't actually horrid though, since it gets you two 1/1's if it whiffs. Totemic though lol.

You can't actually play either of those rogue cards unless you have a weapon equipped vaclav so they would be just as worthless with flamewaker.

Gavinmad_sl said:

I didn't even think about using spare parts with flamewaker. durrr. back to the drawing board.

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This is why I can't stand this game sometimes. Flamewaker has a great synergy and I look for shit like spare parts to work with it and... oh wait there's basically 1-2 cards besides Toshley. MTG has never been 'balanced' but it's always been fun because of the massive card pool. Well except ABR days I guess. Blizzard has to be making ridiculous money on this game and they could be releasing a ton of content, it's cards you can CHANGE after the fact. Who cares.

littles_sl said:

You can't actually play either of those rogue cards unless you have a weapon equipped vaclav so they would be just as worthless with flamewaker.

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Ah shit, well an excuse to run Blingtron!

Charge is the most broken mechanic in HS. Not even close. My understanding is that other games like MtG had ways to interact with your opponent's board during their turn, and without that charge is out of control.

Look at your list with crafting mode on. Every single charge card is from vanilla, with the exception of one from GvG and that card is total dogshit. They know they fucked up so they stopped making cards with charge.

Every single piss you off, unfun, bullshit wombo-combo in the game has revolved around charge. Force/Roar. All iterations of hounds. Face hunter would be nothing near as powerful without golem/wolfrider/leeroy/huffer. Old miracle rogue with shadowstepping Leeroy. Oil to a lesser degree with deckhand. Grommash plus whirlwind/taskmaster/deathsbite. Topdecked lifetap doomguard. Shit, that carddiscards twobut its still powerful as fuck. And the newest entrant in the bullshit olympics, patron war. With neverending charges when the stars align. Charge your patrons, charge fucking sludges, charge charge charge.

Every single charge card is severely undercosted. At this point in the game many of those cards should have given way to more variation with the new releases, but they hang around forever because that one ability creates entire deck archetypes and blockscountlessother deck possibilities.

Reminded why I hated playing arena in the past....so much RNG to it on top of cards RNG effects. Really wish they would do a draft/sealed mode

Famm_sl said:

Charge is the most broken mechanic in HS. Not even close. My understanding is that other games like MtG had ways to interact with your opponent's board during their turn, and without that charge is out of control.

Look at your list with crafting mode on. Every single charge card is from vanilla, with the exception of one from GvG and that card is total dogshit. They know they fucked up so they stopped making cards with charge.

Every single piss you off, unfun, bullshit mechanic in the game has revolved around charge. Force/Roar. All iterations of hounds. Face hunter would be nothing near as powerful without golem/wolfrider/leeroy/huffer. Old miracle rogue with shadowstepping Leeroy. Oil to a lesser degree with deckhand. Grommash/whirlwind or taskmaster. Topdecked lifetap doomguard. Shit, that carddiscards twobut its still powerful as fuck. And the newest entrant in the bullshit olympics, patron war. With neverending charges when the stars align. Charge your patrons, charge fucking sludges, charge charge charge.

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Wasn't warsong commander used in OTK warrior too before they nerfed it?

Yeah it sure was. Now its back in full force with Patron, though it does take some work and luck to get that combo to really go off, but still its off the hook plenty of times.

Famm_sl said:

Yeah it sure was. Now its back in full force with Patron, though it does take some work and luck to get that combo to really go off, but still its off the hook plenty of times.

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I don't know how much of it is really luck since that deck plays a lot of draws (and it has two combos to work with, patrons and frothing), and battle rage after whirlwind effects at times fill your whole hand. Xixo was first to legend as per usual and he was playing patrons. It seems to be really strong against almost all leveling decks and in the tournaments recently it has even done well against stuff like freeze mage.