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I just have one more card to go ,and I will have all the cards.

Took me two open Betas to get everything. So about 3 months?

I really can't wait for the next patch imo. Game is a little stale for me atm.
 

jooka

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I suck tho so don't get all uppity if i leave the game in frustration.
 

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I spent 50 bucks in Beta one, but honestly you can get every card very easily imo.

When I was first starting I didn't realize how easy it was to farm gold off a rogue in arena beta 1.

If I was to go back to my first 2 weeks, I wouldn't have spent a dime. Although for 50 bucks Ive gotten more bang for my buck then most video games.
 

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O, one other thing.

Unless you just don't care about Golden cards. Don't do what I did.
I disenchanted every Golden card so I could get every card in the book. I only stopped that recently in the last 3 weeks.

Crafting Golden cards is a real bitch.. I wish I would have just kept all mine now looking back.
 

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O, one other thing.

Unless you just don't care about Golden cards. Don't do what I did.
I disenchanted every Golden card so I could get every card in the book. I only stopped that recently in the last 3 weeks.

Crafting Golden cards is a real bitch.. I wish I would have just kept all mine now looking back.
Yeah, I care about golden cards, so I've been keeping mine. I've spent $60 on packs at this point, but since I haven't been DEing beyond extra cards, I don't have too many legendaries. The only one that I've been using really is Grom Hellscream. I also have Leeroy, the Black Knight, the Beast, and Ragnaros. I'd play Rag, but I generally don't like to play late-game, mostly because other people have more legendaries (namely Gruul and Ysera), so I'd rather just beat them before that point.
 

Oblio

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I spent 50 bucks in Beta one, but honestly you can get every card very easily imo.

When I was first starting I didn't realize how easy it was to farm gold off a rogue in arena beta 1.

If I was to go back to my first 2 weeks, I wouldn't have spent a dime. Although for 50 bucks Ive gotten more bang for my buck then most video games.
Just got Beta last night, totally a noob. Can you please give a little more detail on how to do this? I would like to avoid spending real cash.
 

Pyksel

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Just got Beta last night, totally a noob. Can you please give a little more detail on how to do this? I would like to avoid spending real cash.
Get all classes to 10. Defeat all enemies in expert. Start grinding arenas or doing dailies.
 

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Just got Beta last night, totally a noob. Can you please give a little more detail on how to do this? I would like to avoid spending real cash.
You really can't anymore. The game is totally different now.

I'm not sure how a new player would make tons of gold. Other then reading a bunch of guides, doing all the achievements, and dailys everyday.
Then when you get comfortable with the game playing Priest in arena for easy wins.

You can average one pack a day if you do the daily, and around 9 wins ( the 3 other wins probly coming from the daily itself).
 

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Started last night with Mage, it was assigned to me not sure if that is random or if it is always that way. Did the 6 missions with her, then took on the Paladin to unlock him. Got the Paladin and played against the Hunter and got ROFLSTOMPED. Lol, I think the Hunter needs more taunts and damage from his Hero Weapon. So Huntards are ridiculous in this game too? Or am I just new?

EDIT: Is there a way to play the ipad beta for Hearthstone?
 

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You're just new. Paladins are a very minion focused hero, while hunters have a lot of great minion removal spells.

I was wondering about the iPad version myself. I didn't get the virtual ticket, so this is just speculation, but I'm thinking it'll be out once the game releases (which is in 2014? Spring?)
 

Gilgamel

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If you're not good at this sort of game I have a trick that will help you. When doing arena just get as many quality two and three drops as possible, even over anything but the most broken big cards. People cannot handle a good mana curve at all, and if you don't know what you're doing err on the side of aggressive tempo.
 

ronne

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It's pretty hilarious how amazingly well you can do in arena just picking nothing but undercosted 2-4 mana creatures. An entire deck of ooze/faerie dragons/amani/worgen/yetis/shattered suns/dark irons would probably easily rock a 75?% win rate.
 

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The other reason weenie decks do so well is you are lessening rng on card draw, and eliminating some of the priest threat.

And that is really good for a new player
 

Oblio

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I was really good at the in game TCG that SWG had. That was the only TCG I ever played and I knew all the cards and that was like 2-3 years ago since I played it. I am sure i will be decent at this when I understand the cards and arch types etc.
 
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Did some napkin math on arena score distributions with three assumptions

1) Every match has winner and loser
2) Nobody retires
3) People are always matched with equal scores

The assumptions are not exactly true but should give reasonable estimation. Basically 50% of arena runs go 2-3 or worse. Logically this should make me rage less about my bad runs lately but not sure if its working...
 

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Really, in the current meta, weenie decks can do no wrong. Packing your deck with the under-costed neutrals like Fairy Dragon, Harvest Golem, Cleric, Dark Iron Dwarf, and Azure Drake almost feels like cheating. I've just been doing that and supplementing with class based removal and have been rolling over people in constructed. The only real danger is over-extending into aoe board clears like Flamestrike, Hellfire, Swipe, etc. But if you just keep that in mind and don't over-commit, then you're pretty much guaranteed a win. The only time a weenie deck will lose is if your opponent got there first (i.e. he's also playing a weenie deck, but just got a better hand). Usually, it means he got the coin and was able to get his 2-mana minion out before me.

The optimist in me believes that there's other strategies that work, but now that I've been playing the game for a month, the limitations in the small card pool are starting to show. I've tried decks that rely on combos, but the chances of you getting said combo in hand is pretty slim. Unleash hunters get around this using the buzzard for card draw, but I have yet to lose against an unleash hunter while playing a weenie deck. Unleash hunters need buzzards + beasts to work, and if they have those in hand, then they probably don't have enough removal in hand to keep up with removal against all the minions coming out.

I think one of the strongest decks against a general weenie deck is a paladin playing weenie deck. Equality is pretty absurd and if you couple it with Consecrate it's even better. Also, Equality + Avenging Wrath is pretty fantastic as well. Throw in some bubbles in there and you can get better trades in the early game against a Rogue or Warrior playing weenies.

Inevitably, Blizzard is going to add more variety with expansions, but that's at least a year away, if not two years given the pace that they develop and the fact that this game isn't even in open beta yet. One thing that would help would be to add more lower cost neutral epic/legendaries that do weird/interesting things. Doomsayer is kind of in the right vein, but is easy enough to handle.