Hearthstone

Gavinmad_sl said:

1) Completely talking out of your ass. I just checked on 4 random mech shaman deck lists from the Viagame House Cup #3, and all 4 lists run double fel reaver. Savjz ladder mech shaman list (which was the only ladder list I could find after a brief search) also runs double fel reaver.

2) This is pure speculation on your part


Didn't say anything about spare parts. What is a fact though, is that Miracle had survived the Leeroy nerf and the introduction of Loatheb to the card pool, and was still a very dominant deck in the metagame, until they took the additional step of nerfing Gadgetzan.

3) Freeze mage doesn't run creatures unless they're disposable, or part of the setup for the win (Alex, Maly/Antonidas). The fact that they run a card strictly to benefit just once from it's end of turn effect, suggests that the card is overpowered. Hell, Freeze Mage itself was, as you said, mostly a dead archetype, so why is it suddenly back in the metagame? Could it be because one single overpowered card suddenly makes it viable again?

Click to expand...

1) You obviously didn't look very hard for mech Shaman lists. Here are the mech shaman deck lists from the two dominant meta tracking sites. You also posted a tournament deck list, for some reason. They often intentionally do things that deviate from ladder play for a variety of reasons.

Liquid Hearth's June week 1 meta ranking:
PR June Week 1: The Unholy Trinity
Mech Shaman list posted there:
http://www.liquidhearth.com/staff/mo...ech_Shaman.png
(Same list since April, no fel reavers)

Tempo Storm June week 1 meta snapshot:
https://tempostorm.com/articles/meta...on-is-underway
Mech Shaman list:
https://tempostorm.com/hearthstone/d...an-snapshot-14
Again, no fel reaver.
The version floating around in Feb tended to run black knight, but again, no fel reavers. At least not in the popular/dominant list.

So no, I wasn't talking out of my ass.

2) You can call it speculation if you want, but nerfing auctioneer in the patch before adding neutral, one cost spells seems pretty targeted to me.

3) Emp is part of the set up to win. That doesn't suggest it's overpowered. It shows that it's a good card. There is nothing wrong with one good card bringing back a dead archetype. It's part of the life of a card game. It was simply regarded as too slow pre emp.

Show me a meta where a dis-proportionally high percent of winning decks are running it, then we ought to start talking about what the data means.

Currently of the tempo storm tier 1 list, only one of the four decks even run emp. Freeze mage, the deck you're complaining about, is only scraping the top ten list. And you want to nerf it? What evidence do you have to suggest it's really that broken?

That's the game tho bro. You can't play tailored decks that are only good against one deck. You need to play decks that have favorable matchups against a wide range of decks. This is why people play the meta.

If you want diversity go play arena, or beg for a tournament mode where you can tailor one of your decks to be favorable against one deck.


My opinion right now is Patron warrior is the strongest deck in the game. It may be more powerful then the original charge warrior from the beta.

If looking what blizzard did to that, I would expect that patron will see a nerf in the next few seasons.

So, a daily I had yesterday that I didn't do is gone... What the fuck? Is that a thing?

I know that's the game. I just find it annoying, there is the potential for such diversity but it's not there. Play 40 games and you're lucky if you encounter more than 5 different decks. I play casual half the time because I often see things you don't see in ranked. I mean part of the fun for me is when I see something unexpected that totally takess me by surprise. Weird combos, cards you rarely see etc...

Don't get me wrong. I still enjoy the game, but I still think there isn't enough diversity.

Oh and while I'm ranting. God I wish the time you had to play was cut in half, and rope was an automatic loss if it runs out and that if you get the rope you're stuck with it for entire game. Fuck people who need an entire turn to play something on turn 1 with just 1 mana.

Click to expand...

I think it'll get there as more sets come out. From what I remember of Magic's first set, there wasn't much complexity yet either. I think a new mechanic will be added with each expansion set.

Valderen_sl said:

Oh and while I'm ranting. God I wish the time you had to play was cut in half, and rope was an automatic loss if it runs out and that if you get the rope you're stuck with it for entire game. Fuck people who need an entire turn to play something on turn 1 with just 1 mana.

Click to expand...

No thanks, when the game forces you to watch animations and triggers and other stuff.

yeah fucking sludge belcher and its 30 second animation

New Main Button Being Added to Hearthstone - News - HearthPwn

I'll be pleasantly surprised if it is actually a new game mode, probably just a new "Shop" button to make sure the alternate hero skins are in your face every time you log in.

Well, there's already a shop button, you would assume the skins will go in there with a separate category from cards and adventure. Everything else already on that menu is a play mode. I understand the jaded assumption for sure though.

Probably going to be something shitty like "Special Offers" or "Lore". But it would be nice if it was like a matchmaking tournament bracket or something, where the winner gets gold, card backs, etc.

Its tournaments or 2v2, its gotta be.

Premium Shekelstones.

Fawe_sl said:

I would assume Tournaments. It's the next logical step and the thing needed to break-up the monotony that is ladder play.
I will do Tournaments 100% whenever they are implemented. Ladder is dumb. Too susceptible to meta decks.

Click to expand...

But how much will they cost?!? Rewards?

Thats the pay to win button

Anyone on EU? I have the pack daily and none of my friends play this game.

Larsen#2974

Apparently the German HS FB page confirmed that its not 2v2...