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They need to make the "30 webspinners vs 30 unstable portals" thing happen asap.
Well, it's a 100% percent a combo deck, but one of the easiest by far. You can even screw up, and still win.
It's more akin to the original OTK charge warrior from season 1.
It's more akin to the original OTK charge warrior from season 1.
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Just make Warsong commander only for 2 attack minions. For Frothing, change the wording to "friendly minions with two attack have charge". It doesn't even need that "when you play" part, that's the only time charge matters anyway. Its like Deckhand, doesn't say "has charge if played while a weapon equipped" its just if weapon then has charge. Same deal, if two attack, has charge. So like how deckhand loses charge with no weapon, then frothing loses charge with extra attack.
They'll need a bigger card base first. Random shit isn't ever going away, though.
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I'm not sure I agree with him but Kibler thinks that Battle Rage is the card that puts Patron Warrior over the top. He makes some good arguments but I still think the problem comes down to charge mechanics being utterly broken. A good number of broken combos have been fueled by Charge Mechanics (Old Warrior OTK and Leeroy come to mind immediately).
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Case in point. I just watched Trump lose to Patron Warrior. Trump was playing Paladin with nothing on the field and 1 charge on a Truesilver. Warrior had an empty board and 1 charge Death's Bite. He then played a Warson (CHARGE!), two Frothings and Whirlwind. 20 points of damage.
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Yeah, was watching that match as well, he had a horrible stretch of games there. When I play Patron I do so without Warsong Commander and it's still a damn good deck. Figured it was going to receive the nerf bat again so I've been trying to get used to life without it but who knows.
I've seen more ridiculous plays with Warsong + Berserker than with Patron, how come that combo wasn't used when Deaths Bite hit the scene?
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Frothing was used in some OTK combos. The problem was that it wasn't reliable enough. What Patron does is open up a second win condition so that if both Frothings end up on the bottom of the deck the Warrior can still win games with a different combo.
The issue with Patron isn't the Patrons exactly but they are a big part of it. Basically, you need to play around too many win conditions from your opponent and it sure as hell doesn't help that you can't instantly identify Control, Dragon/Crazian and Patron from one another. It makes it easier on the decks that don't care about their opponent's hand (face/hand/freeze/mill/~ramp) but sucks ass for the meta as a whole when leaving up even a couple of <3 attack minions can just give away another win condition.
Charge is a fucked mechanic overall but hey, I still think MtG had a far better combat resolution and the two are related. Wouldn't work in HS of course but I do think there is room in the space for a serious-er card game that has the whole MtG stack and combat resolution model without the cost model. But whatever. Silly fun/frustrating game is still fun.
Charge is a fucked mechanic overall but hey, I still think MtG had a far better combat resolution and the two are related. Wouldn't work in HS of course but I do think there is room in the space for a serious-er card game that has the whole MtG stack and combat resolution model without the cost model. But whatever. Silly fun/frustrating game is still fun.
