Heroes of the Storm

Draegan_sl

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RTS skills? Nah, that's a lot of micro. Abathur is all map awareness which I'm pretty decent at having played Jungle quite a bit in LOL.
 

Qhue

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LiLi is fun. Just wish she wasn't LiLi...I guess it makes sense with Chen being in the game and all but she's moderately annoying
 

Tenks

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Played a game as Green Jesus trying to focus more on jungling than doing more team fight. We won. Hard to say how much impact I had really. Probably my biggest impact was Nazeebo (their Naz) had to pocket his ult the entire time because Sundering takes such a massive and complete shit on anyone with a channeled ult.
 

Draegan_sl

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Playing a few Abathur games. All losses. I'm convinced each of my teams were terrible. Last game with all the traits unlocked I had the most take downs, most xp contribution etc. I think this champ can do some work if the team didn't suck.
 

Dudebro_sl

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playing kerrigan to 5 just for the gold and so far, I haven't gotten a healer on my team in any game. How do you play a melee dps in this game? I just get blown the fuck up everytime a team fight happens. There's zero reasons to pick a melee dps over a range dps in this team fight rumble fest game.
 

Tenks

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playing kerrigan to 5 just for the gold and so far, I haven't gotten a healer on my team in any game. How do you play a melee dps in this game? I just get blown the fuck up everytime a team fight happens. There's zero reasons to pick a melee dps over a range dps in this team fight rumble fest game.
If you are getting blown up right away as melee chances are you are being too aggressive or initiating.
 

Ryoz

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I try at all costs to stay in lane until at least 10. Of course moving to objectives is something you also have to consider. I think agreeing to not capture the first tribute because the enemy has arrived first is good team discipline. Also having a kill priority is also important. When your team is focused on different people it sucks.

We had some good games. I think it's a rare thing to play with people who don't get upset after a loss and just want to keep playing and having fun.
 

Ryoz

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If you are getting blown up right away as melee chances are you are being too aggressive or initiating.
The only time it's advised to initiate I think is if your team is on your boots and you're popping your ult. you should also take the talent that lets you q to teammates and minions, so that can be used as an escape.
 

Tenks

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Playing a few Abathur games. All losses. I'm convinced each of my teams were terrible. Last game with all the traits unlocked I had the most take downs, most xp contribution etc. I think this champ can do some work if the team didn't suck.
Be careful about citing scoreboard statistics as a personal testiment. I'm sure you're already aware but takedowns is an aggregation of kills + assists. As Abathur you should be in every single fight that happens everywhere on the map. You really shouldn't miss a single takedown score. Also since he is a high uptime hero because he really shouldn't be dying he will naturally get the most XP gained from a combination of simply being alive and the fact that he can double soak lanes. It is like when a Murky gets #1 hero damage and proclaims to the team this loss was in no way his fault. Its like ... no shit you're #1 hero damage you suicide your rotation then repeat. I wish there was a stat for hero damage which lead to a hero kill within like 60 seconds. Because that would be more meaningful than the current number.

A few things about Abathur that may not be completely obvious:

- Locust DO NOT give XP when they kill a minion
- Symbiote on a minion and things die around it DOES grant XP
- Abathur simply being near a minion kill DOES give XP

So you can sit in some bushes while an objective is going on and also symbiote a minion and you can effectively double soak a lane while your team fights for an objective. This is particularly strong on Raven.
 

Tenks

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The only time it's advised to initiate I think is if your team is on your boots and you're popping your ult. you should also take the talent that lets you q to teammates and minions, so that can be used as an escape.
Kerrigan's initiate requires context. She is one of the best gankers in the game so she can initiate in low hero count engagements but she should never be in the front lines to start a 5v5. She is also complete garbage as a hero in general if you can't land your combo pretty much 100% of the time. You pretty much have to play her with quick cast on to land it reliably.
 

Delly

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Kerrigan's initiate requires context. She is one of the best gankers in the game so she can initiate in low hero count engagements but she should never be in the front lines to start a 5v5. She is also complete garbage as a hero in general if you can't land your combo pretty much 100% of the time. You pretty much have to play her with quick cast on to land it reliably.
 

Tenks

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Good video. Still recommend quick cast heavily. She's a tough hero to learn but her combo should become second nature. I don't personally play her but I've watched enough ZPs stream to know how powerful she can be. Especially teamed up with an Arthas roaming and ganking early game.
 

Neph_sl

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More or less saving this vid for later. Watched the first game and it was really close and pretty tense. The majority of the competitive HotS games I've seen were more or less snowballs, but the first one was a good watch.

 

Tenks

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Barrel Boys is a cool story because they were just 5 friends who played together and started to just enter open tournaments. They were terrible at first but now are a very good team.
 

TecKnoe

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Barrel Boys is a cool story because they were just 5 friends who played together and started to just enter open tournaments. They were terrible at first but now are a very good team.
wheres the fucking re rolled boyz AT

watching the video above ETC BABY, also we should be able to get that field of view or whatever you wanna call it in game, I hate how zoomed this game is that's my biggest gripe.
 

Draegan_sl

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Be careful about citing scoreboard statistics as a personal testiment. I'm sure you're already aware but takedowns is an aggregation of kills + assists. As Abathur you should be in every single fight that happens everywhere on the map. You really shouldn't miss a single takedown score. Also since he is a high uptime hero because he really shouldn't be dying he will naturally get the most XP gained from a combination of simply being alive and the fact that he can double soak lanes. It is like when a Murky gets #1 hero damage and proclaims to the team this loss was in no way his fault. Its like ... no shit you're #1 hero damage you suicide your rotation then repeat. I wish there was a stat for hero damage which lead to a hero kill within like 60 seconds. Because that would be more meaningful than the current number.

A few things about Abathur that may not be completely obvious:

- Locust DO NOT give XP when they kill a minion
- Symbiote on a minion and things die around it DOES grant XP
- Abathur simply being near a minion kill DOES give XP

So you can sit in some bushes while an objective is going on and also symbiote a minion and you can effectively double soak a lane while your team fights for an objective. This is particularly strong on Raven.
Roger. Yeah I was siting stats to say that I wasn't completely useless and managed to do something.

I need more practice in symbing minions more often.
 

Ryoz

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ETC man, and that void prison clutched so many of those team fights. Will have to watch more later.
 

TecKnoe

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ETC man, and that void prison clutched so many of those team fights. Will have to watch more later.
hes a pretty cool hero IMO, arthas is just a god so every other tank other than stitches looks like dog shit when up against him, his self sustain is so good even with no healer you are a beast.


ETC's ult is kinda like naga siren sleep but more like blackhole in that the range is a lot more limited so you can get some fun setups like ETC ult + ravenous spirit or any AOE for mini wombo combos, etc ult into uther ult is nice.