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Vinen

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If you know the acreage of the development and price paid, that's easy enough to ballpark. Cost of land isn't factoring into more than 20% of the eventual sale price. Might not even be 10% when they crank out (100) 1 Million dollar units on .7 acre lots.
More then 50% of my houses value is the land. (Based off taxes)

The land is also not valued even. It varies greatly.

Parcels next to each other which vary by thousands of square feet can be the same price as the primary value of the land is that a house can be put on it with at least 2 parking spots.
 

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More then 50% of my houses value is the land. (Based off taxes)

The land is also not valued even. It varies greatly.

Parcels next to each other which vary by thousands of square feet can be the same price as the primary value of the land is that a house can be put on it with at least 2 parking spots.
More than 50% of my house is the land too and my house is valued at 1.8M. Guy doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
 

Vinen

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More than 50% of my house is the land too and my house is valued at 1.8M. Guy doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
Pretty much.

I would suspect there would be a lot more rebuilding if it wasn't so difficult to take a house down in my town. It has to be suffering from severe structural issues before they will even consider letting it happen.

The workaround to this is to tear the house down to nearly it's foundation. Seen a few places get done that way.
 

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Pretty much.

I would suspect there would be a lot more rebuilding if it wasn't so difficult to take a house down in my town. It has to be suffering from severe structural issues before they will even consider letting it happen.

The workaround to this is to tear the house down to nearly it's foundation. Seen a few places get done that way.
There's a house in my neighborhood that was built in 1916 (which is pretty old for this part of Dallas, there are late 1800's houses down near the original city center) that has a historical protection on it, but the historical protection only applies to the original facade. So they quite literally cut everything off of it behind the front facade and completely rebuilt it, and just hooked that front facade up to it. It's a brand new house with subterranean garage, indoor pool, etc but it's got this old colonial front. It's hilarious. It actually looks good now but when they were rebuilding it it looked crazy.

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I just dont get the fascination with "historical" buildings. Musts be a shitshow trying to maintain 100+ year old homes. But hey it looks nice!
 

Vinen

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I just dont get the fascination with "historical" buildings. Musts be a shitshow trying to maintain 100+ year old homes. But hey it looks nice!
It's not ness due to historical reasons. There are environmental reasons as well. Boat loads of led paint and asbestos. Mine had it all removed/certified before we moved in. No more led paint or asbestos (if there was asbestos in it).
 

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When I moved on this base I was originally in the married quarters. Asbestos seals and labels everywhere since the damn things have been built in the 50s and, aside from painting the walls between tenants, they never renovate anything in them. I brought that up with the insurance company I was dealing with and they classified the house as "fire resistant". Amusingly enough I got a pretty significant discount on my insurance that year.
 

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When I moved on this base I was originally in the married quarters. Asbestos seals and labels everywhere since the damn things have been built in the 50s and, aside from painting the walls between tenants, they never renovate anything in them. I brought that up with the insurance company I was dealing with and they classified the house as "fire resistant". Amusingly enough I got a pretty significant discount on my insurance that year.
I bet your health insurance would not have been amused
 

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There's a house in my neighborhood that was built in 1916 (which is pretty old for this part of Dallas, there are late 1800's houses down near the original city center) that has a historical protection on it, but the historical protection only applies to the original facade. So they quite literally cut everything off of it behind the front facade and completely rebuilt it, and just hooked that front facade up to it. It's a brand new house with subterranean garage, indoor pool, etc but it's got this old colonial front. It's hilarious. It actually looks good now but when they were rebuilding it it looked crazy.

rrr_img_134743.jpg
I just dont get the fascination with "historical" buildings. Musts be a shitshow trying to maintain 100+ year old homes. But hey it looks nice!
At least everyone has to put up with the same bs rules. Hell, Truman gutted the White House and left only the exterior shell in the 1950s.

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White House Reconstruction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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Best quote about WH reconstruction is "it is standing by force of habit alone" or something similar.

It was done line immediately after Russia went nuclear so I'm sure it was a cover for a nice big bunker too
 

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How come houses are still built with wood anyway? Is steel just way more expensive and/or impractical to build with?
Yes, it's primarily cost. Wood's cheap, everyone knows how to work with it, and so on. Even for 4 story apartment buildings, the vast majority of them are still wood structurally. The general rule of thumb for a 4 story apartment building is that going to steel or concrete will add 15-20% to the cost of the building.
 

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Yes, it's primarily cost. Wood's cheap, everyone knows how to work with it, and so on. Even for 4 story apartment buildings, the vast majority of them are still wood structurally. The general rule of thumb for a 4 story apartment building is that going to steel or concrete will add 15-20% to the cost of the building.
Is there a difference in their expected lifetime?
 

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Yes, it's primarily cost. Wood's cheap, everyone knows how to work with it, and so on. Even for 4 story apartment buildings, the vast majority of them are still wood structurally. The general rule of thumb for a 4 story apartment building is that going to steel or concrete will add 15-20% to the cost of the building.
How is that possible, most of the cost of the building is not the framing. Even if the framing costs 3X as much to do in steel, how does that affect the overall cost of the building that much??
 

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More then 50% of my houses value is the land. (Based off taxes)

The land is also not valued even. It varies greatly.

Parcels next to each other which vary by thousands of square feet can be the same price as the primary value of the land is that a house can be put on it with at least 2 parking spots.
Do you live in a suburban development constructed post 1980, preferably post 2000? I'm not talking about urban neighborhoods in big cities. That's a completely different thing.
 

Vinen

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Do you live in a suburban development constructed post 1980, preferably post 2000? I'm not talking about urban neighborhoods in big cities. That's a completely different thing.
No. Most of the houses (90%+?) in my town were build pre 1970 (a huge chunk pre 1930, like mine which is ~1910).
I live Arlington, MA
Google Maps

We don't have any such communities outside of a few condo complex. Flip on "Earth" view and you will see what I am talking about.

I live near the center of town.
 

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I was reading somewhere in SF that houses with historical attached to them what people do is quite literally just leave one wall up so it is technically not a completely tear down. Then they just build the entire house around that one wall and get it approved. Once approved they knock down that wall afterwards.
 

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They are built like tanks, way better than modern construction, but the problem is the guts, all the electrical, plumbing and the mechanical is usually junk and needs to be modernized.