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Gravel

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Has anyone ever skim coated a textured wall? My entire house has them (knockdown style) and I really want to get rid of it. But it seems like it could be an enormous pain in the ass. Just curious to get some opinions on how bad it might be.
 

lurkingdirk

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Has anyone ever skim coated a textured wall? My entire house has them (knockdown style) and I really want to get rid of it. But it seems like it could be an enormous pain in the ass. Just curious to get some opinions on how bad it might be.
I have, and it is an enormous pain in the ass. It takes forever, and requires a lot of sanding. Like, a lot. And it takes forever. Many, many thin coats is the way to do it.

So, have patience and love sand dust all over your house? It's for you!
 

Joeboo

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So the weirdest goddamned thing just happened

The 2x6 boards will be the bottom level of support, supported by handi-block concrete blocks as seen here:
Shop Handi-Block 4 x 4 Handi-Block at Lowes.com
I go to Lowes to buy all of my supplies this morning, priced it all out yesterday on-line. Plenty of lumber in stock, like 100+ handi-blocks, etc.

I get to my local Lowes, and no handi-blocks. They have the older style deck-blocks that are 100% pure concrete and weight 40lbs apiece, but I wanted these newer handi-blocks because they are some sort of concrete/polymer mixture that was just as strong as concrete but less than half the weight(and cuttable with a normal hacksaw)

I ask an employee where the handi-blocks are, and he's never heard of such a thing. I go to bring up the link on my phone (posted above) and it gives me a lowes.com 404 error, page not found. WTF. I swear to god I was just looking at them yesterday and every lowes around me had 100+ of them in stock. Then this morning they're gone off the website(are now showing back up again but out of stock at every single store near me)

I wonder if its possible that I happened to catch them right as they recalled or stopped selling the item or something? But the employee acted like he had never seen them in the store, ever.

There was even a review of the product on Lowes.com commenting on how the person was glad that Lowes stopped selling the 100% concrete deck-blocks and switched over to these much better handi-blocks, But nope, nothing but concrete deck blocks in the store.

I think I'm going crazy...
 

Gravel

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I have, and it is an enormous pain in the ass. It takes forever, and requires a lot of sanding. Like, a lot. And it takes forever. Many, many thin coats is the way to do it.

So, have patience and love sand dust all over your house? It's for you!
Was it worth it in the end though?
 

iannis

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I'm imagining a textured plaster wall, and that the desired result is a smooth plaster wall.

It sounds WAY easier to just sand that shit down and hang sheetrock instead. Or sand that shit down and replaster. Filling the texture sounds like about the worst idea, ultimately just as much work for less result.
 

Gravel

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It's drywall. They basically just shoot a shit-ton of drywall compound onto the wall and use a trowel to "knockdown" the crap into a "texture." I'm not a huge fan of it.

As far as doing skim coating, it's kind of the same thing (throwing a ton of drywall compound on the wall) and then making it flat, then sanding so it's smooth. I've read that dust gets in pretty much everything. I'm not quite as concerned about that as I am the general ass pain of it.

I've heard that painting textured walls looks terrible since shadows will catch on the texture (which I guess is less noticeable on white walls) which is why I'm considering it.
 

Palum

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So I have a 3 season porch that was enclosed and turned into a sunroom and then eventually refinished to just be part of the house (all before I bought it). It's a 8x10 'nook' almost off the side of the main path to the french doors which lead to the pool. There's not terribly much utility for it presently as it's currently open so I can't just use it for storage or whatever and it has no windows in the actual nook-room (they are all in the 'hall' leading to the french door).

My GF wants to turn it into a sitting room. I want to add storage. I also have this fascination with outside-in decor/architecture (ala Venetian shops, Forum shops @ Caesar's Palace, etc.) and we saw this interesting 'outdoor porch' display at Ikea that got me thinking.

So since the room is kind of worthless as is, I'm thinking about doing a similar setup to Ikea and making it into a sort of french bistro/british pub patio area and adding a built in bar, another TV and some comfy chairs. I can't think of much else to do besides put a recliner and some plain ass book cases in there and turn it into a duplicate living room area and that doesn't appeal to me at all.

Any thoughts?
 

iannis

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I'd turn it back into a sunroom, myself. Like a person sized terrarium. But that's just me and NC ain't AZ. And then I'd probably get tired of maintaining the thing after a few months and rip everything out.

But honestly it sounds like a dump room would probably be about the best use of it. She'll go sit in it twice a year. The box of christmas crap will sit in it for 11 months a year!

You know it's getting turned into a sitting room. And you know you're gonna be the one doing it. Make peace with that.
 

Palum

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Yea, I know but that's kind of why I want to try something different decor wise with a little bit of ambiance. I can put a smaller TV and a PS4 back there too.
 

Joeboo

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Finished the framing of my shed floor this weekend. (and some parts of the picture look wonky, but it's all completely level, side to side and front to back)
SNMhe5s.jpg


Going to have to borrow a friends truck to get the plywood for the top, I can't fit 8x4 foot sheet in my SUV like I could the lumber, and buying smaller pieces of plywood is WAY more expensive.

Also can't decide if I need to add one more floor stud through the middle of each of those "large" areas in the middle. EAch of those 4 boxes are approximately 2.5 feet by 3.5 feet, that might be a bit too much of a span for plywood, it might feel a little saggy, not sure.

Here is how the plywood would fit by default, 2 full 8x4 pieces(black, red) and 1 piece cut to width(blue)
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I'm a little concerned with the two big pieces not having a full span of frame right on their edges to fasten on to in the middle...would the cross frame pieces be enough points of nailing? 5 spots to nail them down over the 8-foot span if I just use the current studs.
 

Borzak

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Your main floor joist that span the entire thing that sit on the concrete really should have been 16 or 24" on center. If not you're going to run into issues on where to split your plywood as well as sag.

All 4 edges of you plywood need to sit on something.
 

Joeboo

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Yeah, I initially just placed all the joists that would be supported by concrete pillars, but I have 3 more 8 foot 2x6es that I can go back and add more...was just hoping to take the easy way out and avoid it, looks like I'll need to add them at the seams of the plywood then so all 4 sides are fully supported. I was especially worried about that middle(red) piece only having the 2 short ends fully supported, as it currently stands.

The little sections around the edges are all 16" wide all around, guess I won't skip the same for the middle
 

Borzak

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You could try using a roofing clip to help support a seam where you don't have a joist, but I wouldn't recommend it. It's not designed to hold weight, only to keep your roof sheathing from buckling.

edge-clips-figure-01.jpg


roof sheathing installation.jpg
 

Draegan_sl

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If you're really worried about the plywood sagging, just do a double layer and run the seams perpendicular. I wouldn't worry about sagging anyway, you're still using a shed with a floor on it right? That's more than enough. It's not like you need a major structure here. The only thing I'm worried about is that ground giving away during rain.