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Pretty sure next season is also gonna be 8 episodes. This show is expensive, more expensive than GoT, and brings in far less viewers.Yep and they could do one more season and wrap the story up with the remaining 13 episodes if they do 10 next season. Its not very long, but its pretty obvious where this season will end.
Rhaenyra taking King's Landing
For your spoiler, seems very unlikely unless they cut out even more shit. I really don't get it but they are really shitty writers so I guess it makes sense. cut out 75% of the story and then just add useless filler nothing happens episodes where the plot doesnt advance to make up for all the content you cut?
So far here is what seems to have been cut:
Rhaenyra's two youngest children, Aegon III and Viserys, both toddlers on the show, sent across to Pentos for safekeeping. Their ships are attacked by the Triarchy, Aegon escapes on his dragon (dragon barely large enough to carry his weight, dies immediately after landing on dragonstone with crossbow bolts and arrows peppering his body). Viserys is thought dead (returns 10 years later, well after the dance of dragons is over, so basically dead for the purposes of this show). They seem to have cut this and have the 2 toddlers living in the Vale of Arryn. Question is, then why did the bother setting up the entire triarchy war with Daemon in Season 1? That whole war he waged for the stepstones that they wasted several episodes telling? yeah that was to set up that the triarchy are Rhaenyra/Daemon's enemy and they take out her children.
Here's the remaining Major plot points that need to happen for
Rhaenyra to take King's Landing
1. Team black recruits dragon seeds to ride the remaining dragons. (lots of failed attempts/dead knights, several bastards come forward and tame 4 additional dragons for Team Black. One of them is Addam Hull, one of Corlys' bastards, since is now a dragon rider Corlys and jace ask Rhaenyra to legitimatize them as Velaryons and they become Corlys heir to driftmark.
2. Massive Triarchy Fleet of 90 warships ships joins the Reach/Hightower fleet and wages a massive naval battle. they end the blockade, wipe out the Velaryon fleet, land raiders on driftmark, destroy their shipyards, and burn down Spicetown (The major city on driftmark) and lay siege to High Tide (Corlys' Castle).
3. Jacerys leads his dragon to counter attack the assault on driftmark. The ships are equipped with scorpions and crossbowman and are ready to face a dragon. Then 4 more dragons descend from dragonstone and wipe out the Triarchy fleet. However, Jacerys and his dragon Vermax are killed in the defense. (this was called the Battle of the Gullet and it is one of the bloodiest sea battles in all of ASOIAF history.)
Consequences of this battle: The triarchy lost 60+ ships, Velaryons lost 1/3 of their ships. spicetown was destroyed and never rebuilt, all of the people were put to death. High Tide was burned to the ground, all of the wealth of House Velaryon, everything that Corlys had brought back home on his many voyages, was looted or burned. House Velaryon was virtually ended by this. Prince jacerys, heir to Rhaenyra, was killed and his dragon was lost. Also during this is when the ship carrying Rhaenyra's two youngest was captured by pirates and while Aegon III escaped via his little dragon, they had no word on what happened to Viserys (again he turns up 10 years later after living as a prisoner in Lys) but again the show seems to have cut this part out. IDK if they are going to cut out the Triarchy all together and just have it be the Hightower(redwyne) fleet doing this naval battle.
4. The Hightower army that is marching to meet up with the lannisters to attack the riverlands/harrenhal, is trapped between 2 smaller Rhaenyra loyal armies from the Reach (Rowan of Goldengrove and Tom flowers Bastard of Bitterbridge), and almost have to retreat back to old town, until Daeron on his dragon Tessarion joins the Hightower army. The hightower army with dragon support wipes out both opposing smaller armies and can finally march. Daeron (who was a 15 year old squire to Ormund Hightower (brother of Otto and leader of the army) is knighted and named Ser Daeron the Daring for his heroics in this battle.
5. with the pyrrhic victory of the gullet, loss of their Heir, and the loss in the reach (the battle of Honeywine), team black is forced to contemplate surrender. Due to the loss of what is though to have been 3 of her 5 sons, Rhaenyra goes full mad queen and wants full scorched earth, burn down king's landing, murder everyone.
6. Aemond plots to kill daemon seeing him as the only true threat, so he wants the Lannister army (from the west) and Criston Cole's Army (from the south) to pincher attack harrenhal and wipe out the riverlords, while he would wait for Daemon to bring out Caraxes to defend so he could fuck him up with Vhagar.
7 Daemon, still with spies in King's Landing, learned of this plan and desperate not to get smashed between two armies, so he repositions his riverlords to attack the lannister army before they can cross the river. Idk maybe they will somehow work in the Frey/twins shit from last episode into this? I mean I guess.
8 The ironborn, opportunistic as fuck and loyal to nobody, invade the westerlands as soon as the lannister army marched on the riverlands and they rape raid and reave throughout.
9 survivors and minor lords attempt to retake the castles Cole took (ie rooks' rest) and try to kill Aegon's wounded dragon. Dragon bbqs them and, his wing having healed up enough, he flies away
10 Daemon, having sent his army out of Harrenhal to pre-emptively attack the attackers, flies with his dragon, avoiding all the armies looking for him, turns east and joins Rhaenyra. Together on their dragons they fly to King's Landing. The peasants freak out and start evacuating expecting them to burn down King's landing. What's left of the Velaryon ships sail into the bay. With Aegon wounded, Aemond and Cole out in the field marching towards Harrenhal, and all the other loyal armies fighting throughout the realm King's Landing was basically defenseless. The only dragons had no riders to defend (halaena being mad with grief, her children too young to fly on their dragons, one of her sons also being dead). Alicent attempts to rally the defenders but the Gold gloaks immediately betray Team green and take everyone captive and hand the city to Rhaenyra. Alicent's Brother Gwayne is killed during this.
2. Massive Triarchy Fleet of 90 warships ships joins the Reach/Hightower fleet and wages a massive naval battle. they end the blockade, wipe out the Velaryon fleet, land raiders on driftmark, destroy their shipyards, and burn down Spicetown (The major city on driftmark) and lay siege to High Tide (Corlys' Castle).
3. Jacerys leads his dragon to counter attack the assault on driftmark. The ships are equipped with scorpions and crossbowman and are ready to face a dragon. Then 4 more dragons descend from dragonstone and wipe out the Triarchy fleet. However, Jacerys and his dragon Vermax are killed in the defense. (this was called the Battle of the Gullet and it is one of the bloodiest sea battles in all of ASOIAF history.)
Consequences of this battle: The triarchy lost 60+ ships, Velaryons lost 1/3 of their ships. spicetown was destroyed and never rebuilt, all of the people were put to death. High Tide was burned to the ground, all of the wealth of House Velaryon, everything that Corlys had brought back home on his many voyages, was looted or burned. House Velaryon was virtually ended by this. Prince jacerys, heir to Rhaenyra, was killed and his dragon was lost. Also during this is when the ship carrying Rhaenyra's two youngest was captured by pirates and while Aegon III escaped via his little dragon, they had no word on what happened to Viserys (again he turns up 10 years later after living as a prisoner in Lys) but again the show seems to have cut this part out. IDK if they are going to cut out the Triarchy all together and just have it be the Hightower(redwyne) fleet doing this naval battle.
4. The Hightower army that is marching to meet up with the lannisters to attack the riverlands/harrenhal, is trapped between 2 smaller Rhaenyra loyal armies from the Reach (Rowan of Goldengrove and Tom flowers Bastard of Bitterbridge), and almost have to retreat back to old town, until Daeron on his dragon Tessarion joins the Hightower army. The hightower army with dragon support wipes out both opposing smaller armies and can finally march. Daeron (who was a 15 year old squire to Ormund Hightower (brother of Otto and leader of the army) is knighted and named Ser Daeron the Daring for his heroics in this battle.
5. with the pyrrhic victory of the gullet, loss of their Heir, and the loss in the reach (the battle of Honeywine), team black is forced to contemplate surrender. Due to the loss of what is though to have been 3 of her 5 sons, Rhaenyra goes full mad queen and wants full scorched earth, burn down king's landing, murder everyone.
6. Aemond plots to kill daemon seeing him as the only true threat, so he wants the Lannister army (from the west) and Criston Cole's Army (from the south) to pincher attack harrenhal and wipe out the riverlords, while he would wait for Daemon to bring out Caraxes to defend so he could fuck him up with Vhagar.
7 Daemon, still with spies in King's Landing, learned of this plan and desperate not to get smashed between two armies, so he repositions his riverlords to attack the lannister army before they can cross the river. Idk maybe they will somehow work in the Frey/twins shit from last episode into this? I mean I guess.
8 The ironborn, opportunistic as fuck and loyal to nobody, invade the westerlands as soon as the lannister army marched on the riverlands and they rape raid and reave throughout.
9 survivors and minor lords attempt to retake the castles Cole took (ie rooks' rest) and try to kill Aegon's wounded dragon. Dragon bbqs them and, his wing having healed up enough, he flies away
10 Daemon, having sent his army out of Harrenhal to pre-emptively attack the attackers, flies with his dragon, avoiding all the armies looking for him, turns east and joins Rhaenyra. Together on their dragons they fly to King's Landing. The peasants freak out and start evacuating expecting them to burn down King's landing. What's left of the Velaryon ships sail into the bay. With Aegon wounded, Aemond and Cole out in the field marching towards Harrenhal, and all the other loyal armies fighting throughout the realm King's Landing was basically defenseless. The only dragons had no riders to defend (halaena being mad with grief, her children too young to fly on their dragons, one of her sons also being dead). Alicent attempts to rally the defenders but the Gold gloaks immediately betray Team green and take everyone captive and hand the city to Rhaenyra. Alicent's Brother Gwayne is killed during this.
So if the end goal is to get to 10 in 3 episodes, then you've got to cut alot of those things out.
1 is already hinted at happening I expect it next episode, plus they could lay some of the legwork of like, 6, 7 and maybe even 9. that's episode 6. Items 2-3 are major events that have to happen, so I could see that happening in episode 7. after that.....They could cut out 4 (I mean they haven't even shown daeron in the show yet), would save a lot of money that's a major battle sequence. The could cut out 8 (no need for ironborn storyline not important to this). That could leave them to combine all of 5, 9, 10 into a single episode. It would be tight and would need to be smartly written (lol for this team) but it's possible, if they cut a bunch of stuff. But again that begs the question, why is 90% of this season useless filler if the goal is to get to that by the end of 8 episodes?
I don't think we are getting three back to back to back massive battles/dragon fight episodes. I'm betting 4 is moved to season 3, gives them time to cast all those actors.
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