House of the Dragon

Sylas said:

Here let me TLDR:
Sylas: turbo-autistic encyclopedic recall of the books, posts scene by scene line by line show to book changes and argues that the show is completely shitting on the book. Backed up by all evidence, media, the author and even the show runners themselves.

Chris: disingenuous faggot who admits he hasn't read the books in over a decade, barely skimmed the book hotd is based on, and doesn't even consider it a book. Argues the show is a faithful adaptation of the book and if it isn't, it doesn't really matter hurrdurr.

You decide who's right.

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What is disingenuous about speculating that the knights of the vale get to winterfell in the next books without teleporting and things broadly play out as in the show?

Either they show up without teleporting as every other person in the books has done, or they don't show up and it was a plot invented for TV or the result of character merges.

I'm not going to argue if you think it won't happen in the books, this isn't a political stance I'm taking. Why the fuck would I choose this of all things to hypothetically troll people about? I liked the books and I liked speculating about them 10 years ago and those posts will be here somewhere.

You don't need to have an autistic meltdown because the details of a supporting point are slightly off in a way that doesn't change my point.

By all means inform us of the number of ships Cersei had built and their troop carrying capacity, that would actually be a way to end this line of speculation, instead of nitpicking things that don't matter to the point.

He wrote the novels when he was a relatively poor unknown writer. Cranks out a dozen in a few years.

Hollywood starts throwing buckets of money at him to produce racy fantasy series.

Suddenly has writers block for over a decade.

he posted earlier today a long entry about things he didn't like about HotD season 2, then a few hours later took it down. It does spoil major events for season 3 so don't read the archived post if you haven't read the book (or give a fuck), its 2 years till season 3 anyways you'll probably be dead before then

Wonder if HBO called him and said "get that shit down you fat fuck"

Was reading it as it got taken down. Cant argue with anything he said. They keep removing very impactful scenes that alter the story a ton. Oddly enough listened to the official HoD podcast this morning with Condall where he said him and George didnt agree on a lot of things too lol.

Condal's "The book is the book, the show is the show" approach isn't working. If S2 was a smash hit he'd have more leg to stand on.

Animosity said:

Was reading it as it got taken down. Cant argue with anything he said. They keep removing very impactful scenes that alter the story a ton. Oddly enough listened to the official HoD podcast this morning with Condall where he said him and George didnt agree on a lot of things too lol.

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Makes sense though, George's ideas aren't restrained by an actual budget and time slot. This show is dragging ass as is.


Needs more titties and more dragons. Not regurgitated Sophie's Choice.

As long as the titties are on natural born attractive women. Not trannies and strange looking non-binaries. Bring the original 2 chicks back.

spronk said:

he posted earlier today a long entry about things he didn't like about HotD season 2, then a few hours later took it down. It does spoil major events for season 3 so don't read the archived post if you haven't read the book (or give a fuck), its 2 years till season 3 anyways you'll probably be dead before then

Wonder if HBO called him and said "get that shit down you fat fuck"

https://archive.ph/CaMRZ

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Thanks. That's not as negative as Sylas posts and he wrote it lol.

Clearly they have 10/10 material and are making worse with the Hollywood writer meddling. You can't tell me that showing a toddler in two scenes would break the budget.

LMAO 6 episodes





I joked several years ago that Bloys would reduce all future GoT to 2h films after Season 8.

We are nearly there.

It started with GoT, it carried on with HoD with it's episode reduction-- and now this measly 6 episodes. Next up is the "2h movie" stage.

You guys ready for a 90 minute GoT "series"?

You obviously haven’t read these novellas then. They aren’t long. There’s not enough material to make it longer.

Animosity said:

You obviously haven’t read these novellas then. They aren’t long. There’s not enough material to make it longer.

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That didn't stop them with HoD which had 10 episodes and then 8 episode seasons. No material besides an appendix.

Keep making excuses.

Not even getting into GRRM already near confirming a Season 2 for Dunk and Egg. If they don't have the material GRRM wouldn't already be hyping another season.

jayrebb said:

That didn't stop them with HoD which had 10 episodes and then 8 episode seasons. No material besides an appendix.

Keep making excuses.

Not even getting into GRRM already near confirming a Season 2 for Dunk and Egg. If they don't have the material GRRM wouldn't already be hyping another season.

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House of the Dragon was a fake history book, so lots of scope for filling in gaps, correcting unreliable narrators and filling it out.

Dunk and Egg is an actual book series with a properly written narrative.

If they do 6 book faithful well paced episodes, what's the problem?

Chris said:

House of the Dragon was a fake history book, so lots of scope for filling in gaps, correcting unreliable narrators and filling it out.

Dunk and Egg is an actual book series with a properly written narrative.

If they do 6 book faithful well paced episodes, what's the problem?

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The problem is this was only rushed into production after the Jon Snow deal fell through and the other shows got killed off.

It's the best of the worst. They had to make this because their other shows in development fell through. This isn't a passion project for HBO.

jayrebb said:

The problem is this was only rushed into production after the Jon Snow deal fell through and the other shows got killed off.

It's the best of the worst.

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There's a high chance it's got some sort of problem, like HoD S1 moving too quickly and HoD S2 moving too slowly and running out of money for a finale.

You are right to be sceptical but episode number isn't nessesarily going to be a problem on it's own.

Chris said:

There's a high chance it's got some sort of problem, like HoD S1 moving too quickly and HoD S2 moving too slowly and running out of money for a finale.

You are right to be sceptical but episode number isn't nessesarily going to be a problem on it's own.

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GRRM is speaking highly of it, something he's failed to do with HoD. That has to count for something, right?

it would probably work better as a 90min movie. think it is a good story, if 6 hours with probably just 20 mins of fighting will be little dull. don't really need 4 hours of rich/powerful treat poor woman bad.