House of the Dragon

Can't really blame Jason Lannister.
I'd hate fuck that bitch for life too

Chukzombi said:

so what are the Starks, Greyjoys, Tyrells, Lannisters and Mormonts up to?

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I think that they are purposefully being light on those families because of how heavily GoT featured them, I know for sure that one of those families is involved by the end, but you don't want to start off retreading too much old ground.

In GoT those families filled the Targargen power vacuum so were very active in kingdom politics, in this time period it's only 150 years since they were conquered so I think the Targargens are happy to keep them at arms length ruling their respective domains and paying taxes.

Also if you look at the marriages in the GoT appendices, the great families almost never intermarried until just before GoT when Jon Arryn started marrying everyone's daughters off. Targs were very much sticking to their loyalists.

Mormonts are just Stark bannermen living on a frozen island in the far northwest, I would be surprised to see any outside of a reference or cameo, because they are literally the furthest from King's Landing possible.

Chris said:

I think that they are purposefully being light on those families because of how heavily GoT featured them, I know for sure that one of those families is involved by the end, but you don't want to start off retreading too much old ground.

In GoT those families filled the Targargen power vacuum so were very active in kingdom politics, in this time period it's only 150 years since they were conquered so I think the Targargens are happy to keep them at arms length ruling their respective domains and paying taxes.

Also if you look at the marriages in the GoT appendices, the great families almost never intermarried until just before GoT when Jon Arryn started marrying everyone's daughters off. Targs were very much sticking to their loyalists.

Mormonts are just Stark bannermen living on a frozen island in the far northwest, I would be surprised to see any outside of a reference or cameo, because they are literally the furthest from King's Landing possible.

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well, that doesnt wash. we got tons of targ stuff in GoT. we got tons in the books too. goddamn some of those Daeny in Meereen chapters were pure torture. lots of stuff is always happening in Westeros, not just those inbred hicks, The Targaryens.

jayrebb said:

We now see the Sea Snake (black guy from Ep 1 and 2) out in the field-- but he doesn't actually do anything. Not only does he not do anything, but he doesn't even really say much of anything or display any leadership skills that support his high station and rank. The introduction of his son was just as weak as his father.

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Him and Damon were fighting a war for 3 years and were losing. Did you miss the time jump? "Not doing anything" is probably a consequence of these campaigns not being fleshed out in the book.

Chukzombi said:

so what are the Starks, Greyjoys, Tyrells, Lannisters and Mormonts up to?

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Who cares? They've bent the knee to dragons and serve the realm. They aren't supposed to be "doing anything" except being obedient houses and looking after their own regions

Was a totally boring episode until the end, and even that was a stupid battle strategy. Was that Jaden Valaryon on the dragon?

Ossoi said:

Was that Jaden Valaryon on the dragon?

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Who cares

Don't mind me. Just farming some tears

Surely they could have just used makeup to show the necrosis?

Ossoi said:

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Half cocked trash just like the ending of episode 3.

billymain said:

jfc came to talk about dragons and you fire giant derps are karening about how roe v wades is ruining your immersion
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They dramatized the abortion scene and changed the story to influence the public on the stance on roe v wade

I dont think anyone here is arguing they started shooting after the roe v wade decision by SC

jayrebb said:

Half cocked trash just like the ending of episode 3.

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those are half fingers, not half penis. Do you have penis on the brain or in your hands?

Spend a portion of 2 episodes about a infection from 2 cuts.
3rd episode 2 years later. I feel happy. I feeeeeel happy

Oldbased said:

Spend a portion of 2 episodes about a infection from 2 cuts.
3rd episode 2 years later. I feel happy. I feeeeeel happy

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It's shown in the third episode that he lost his fingers


Also, no leaks meant I watched the 2160p Atmos version. 2160p isn't a massive improvement over a good 1080p webrip, but having my 7.1.4 speaks used was noticeable. Especially when the Princess and her guard were in the forest. You could hear the horse grunting only from my the side right speaker.

Liked the episode, Matt Smith has plot armor but no more then Jon Snow did. Don't get me wrong I love me some Hardholme or Battle of the Bastards but he shouldn't have survived either, particularly not even getting hit by an arrow at Winterfell. Daemon got hit by at least 3 and was fucked until the army showed up and bailed him out.

Got hit by 3 arrows including the leg after killing 30 dudes and rowing across a channel, still has energy to kill crab dude.

I never understood the whole strategy.

First we hear they're losing the war because the crab forces retreat into caves to avoid the dragons. (and if they're meant to be nukes, how did Targ+Valaryon nukes not win it in the earlier battles 2-3 years earlier)

Then we see them on a separate island trying to strategise when Damon receives the note of additional forces.

So how did they manage to get their forces across whilst Damon was waving the white flag?

Ossoi said:

I never understood the whole strategy.

First we hear they're losing the war because the crab forces retreat into caves to avoid the dragons. (and if they're meant to be nukes, how did Targ+Valaryon nukes not win it in the earlier battles 2-3 years earlier)

Then we see them on a separate island trying to strategise when Damon receives the note of additional forces.

So how did they manage to get their forces across whilst Damon was waving the white flag?

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I mean it seems obvious to me that when the commander of the army leaves and would be seen getting on a rowboat that you go after him. I don't need to see shots of soldiers rowing over to save him, because it takes the tension out of the scene with Daemon being kinda badass but getting hurt. The Crab dude was looking for Daemon's dragon (as the viewer was also) and the archers that would normally have seen the Valaryon army coming were all focused on him. Not that this was Daemon's plan he wanted to prove he didnt need his brother at all.

I liked that they didn't have a big fight with the Crab guy and Daemon, and that in the end he was just a fucked up dude that was really good at strategy but not a real warrior himself. Hell his men didnt even make a move outside the caves until he motioned them too which tells me they trusted his judgment and tactics to the nth degree.

As for why the battle took years? There appeared to be many islands in that chain so they were having to clean them out one by one. Also if your army is so used to having dragons be the deciding factor, when they are neutralized it showed they didn't have the best tactics or soldier's. Lord Corlys own brother was telling him he was being useless as a leader, and the son was all blaming Daemon since without a dragon Daemon himself while a good fighter has been shown to be rash and vulnerable.

Daezuel said:

Got hit by 3 arrows including the leg after killing 30 dudes and rowing across a channel, still has energy to kill crab dude.

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IKR. If this was real even his dragon couldn't save him!