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Captain Suave

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Lol, that sounds like the microlending fintech startup my wife briefly worked for, where their chosen growth metric was outstanding customer loans and she was repeatedly instructed to lower the selectivity of their credit-worthiness algorithm because they couldn't find any customers who were actually going to pay them back. "But we have to grow! Lower the standards!" Giant dumpster fire of VC money.

My favorite client of theirs, I shit you not, sold specifically fireproof sex toys.

Wonder where their CFO got their degree. That's insane.
Stanford, apparently. But it was a PhD in economics, so this probably makes sense to him.

 
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Lol, that sounds like the microlending fintech startup my wife briefly worked for, where their chosen growth metric was outstanding customer loans and she was repeatedly instructed to lower the selectivity of their credit-worthiness algorithm because they couldn't find any customers who were actually going to pay them back. "But we have to grow! Lower the standards!" Giant dumpster fire of VC money.

My favorite client of theirs, I shit you not, sold specifically fireproof sex toys.


Stanford, apparently. But it was a PhD in economics, so this probably makes sense to him.

Now is the time to invest in companies that actually make money instead of ones that pretend to make money. 80% of Fintech companies aren't going to be around a year from now and same with a bunch of these apps.
 

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I am assuming they were originating the loans at 3.9% and then selling the collateralized loan back off to some bank almost immediately so the amount of time where they were borrowing at 10+ percent to lend at 3.9 should be measured in days or weeks at most for each individual loan. The alternative is no sale at all because no one is going to buy a car at 10% just because the dealer has shit credit for some reason.

It really isn't crazy at all.
 

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This is going on all over the "tech" sector and has been since at least wide adoption of smart-phones (2012-2014ish). Companies that are essentially just lighting VC money on fire, hoping to have sales "growth" for just enough quarters to trick some monolith into acquiring them, before the house comes crumbling down.
 
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Sanrith Descartes

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This is going on all over the "tech" sector and has been since at least wide adoption of smart-phones (2012-2014ish). Companies that are essentially just lighting VC money on fire, hoping to have sales "growth" for just enough quarters to trick some monolith into acquiring them, before the house comes crumbling down.
Cough, cough (WeWork) cough, cough.
 
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Sanrith Descartes

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This may be important. What do you do if your the gubmint and you don't like the CPI number? You change the formula to lower it. Don't be surprised if the number comes in lower than it should and the retards, I mean the market, goes buy, buy, buy!

 
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This may be important. What do you do if your the gubmint and you don't like the CPI number? You change the formula to lower it. Don't be surprised if the number comes in lower than it should and the retards, I mean the market, goes buy, buy, buy!


Here's what vehicle prices would look like if everyone owned an government subsidized electric car!
 

Khane

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So what are we thinking? Fintech is the next tech bust? 95% of them go kaput and the remaining 5% get as big as google and amazon?
 

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Uhhh... yes it is
I think tech companies are about pumping your stock so you can cash in, not actually making money. If you come with the cynical perspective it actually makes sense.
 

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USA CPI (YoY) for Apr 8.300% vs 8.100% consensus estimate. The prior reading was 8.500%
USA CPI (MoM) for Apr 0.300% vs 0.200% consensus estimate. The prior reading was 1.200%.
USA Core CPI (YoY) for Apr 6.200% vs 6.000% consensus estimate. The prior reading was 6.500%.
USA Core CPI (MoM) for Apr 0.600% vs 0.400% consensus estimate. The prior reading was 0.300%.
 
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Jysin

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CPI hot (again).

08:30 *(US) APR CPI M/M: 0.3% V 0.2%E; Y/Y: 8.3% V 8.1%E (annual pace moves off four decade highs)
- CPI (ex-food/energy) M/M: 0.6% v 0.4%e; Y/Y: 6.2% v 6.0%e
- CPI Index NSA: 289.10 v 288.715e
- CPI Core Index SA: 290.455 v 289.822e
 

Sanrith Descartes

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CPI hot (again).

08:30 *(US) APR CPI M/M: 0.3% V 0.2%E; Y/Y: 8.3% V 8.1%E (annual pace moves off four decade highs)
- CPI (ex-food/energy) M/M: 0.6% v 0.4%e; Y/Y: 6.2% v 6.0%e
- CPI Index NSA: 289.10 v 288.715e
- CPI Core Index SA: 290.455 v 289.822e
And that is with the new "recalculated formulas"
 
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Anyone who buys groceries knows were nowhere even close to single digit inflation but these cpi reports are a fun little mechanism for stealing retails money.

This market is spinning it's wheels so hard, can't get good news for our lives.