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Blazin

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I have tried to spend some time thinking about how I see this playing out and there are dynamics at play that make it very difficult. Mainly employment and demographics. Recessions are driven by unemployment, and unlike the previous seven recessions we are in a demographic situation where we are likely to face sustained labor shortages that are going to be pushing on the scales in a manner they weren't during previous economic cycles.

The middle class being squeezed does not mean that corporate profits suffer. In the US consumers spend everything they make especially when gainfully employed. I see slow down occurring as people run out of cash but companies are still completely fucked and can't find workers. This condition could last for some time where the consumer class will continue to feel pinched and their standard of living is likely to decline as their real wages struggle to keep pace. But since we are in an investing thread and not a FJB thread what matters is what this means to profits, and there is good evidence that corporations will still do fine sucking every last dime out of people.

Does it have a breaking point? And what does that breaking point look like?
 
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Sanrith Descartes

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Moved back into UNH with a starter position at $449.75. Its down 13% due to elective surgeries finally catching up from Covid cancellations. Currently sitting at the support level of $449. Quality company with great balance sheet. This entry could be high if support fails and if so I will look to add in later.
 

ShakyJake

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This is insane. I don't understand. As the saying goes, don't try and predict a top. Jesus Christ, man. This right here is my blunder for the year.

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Hateyou

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This is insane. I don't understand. As the saying goes, don't try and predict a top. Jesus Christ, man. This right here is my blunder for the year.

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And when it crashes people that are buying it now will be saying it was their blunder of the year. Be thankful you’re in your position and not theirs.
 
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Rangoth

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Every time one of these happens people think it's a once in a lifetime event, but there are always other listings that are going to blow up and in 2-3 years we'll say "how did we not see that coming?!"(of course someone always does see it coming)

Bottom line, there will always be another big opportunity. Once thing this board has 100% taught me is to not miss profits I didn't make. I'm moderately risk adverse so I typically sell once my target is hit or if I think it has legs I put a trailing limit and walk away
 
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ShakyJake

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And when it crashes people that are buying it now will be saying it was their blunder of the year. Be thankful you’re in your position and not theirs.
That's the thing I know it will pull back. And I COULD still be okay. I bought an Aug 18 390 PUT. Which blows because it's right before earnings -- Sept would've been smarter. But at the time it looked like it was rolling over and 390 was ITM. Not anymore though!

Maybe the Nasdaq-100 restructuring might spark a sell off. Who knows, I'm guessing now which is my problem. I have no strategy just guessing. I mean, I knew this was a gamble and if the PUT goes to .01 then oh well. Just keep going backwards.

I suck at this.
 
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Il_Duce Lightning Lord Rule

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I was thinking that SPY and QQQ might be in for a pullback before/around FOMC this month due to Powell likely announcing another .25bps hike. Now I'm not so sure about that eventuality happening based on what I've been reading and based on what the market's been doing for the last few days. Those same analysts saying a 25 was coming are now saying the more likely play is for 25 coming in Sept. Maybe. They do put in the caveat that Blazin (and others) have put in though that the tea leaves are VERY hard to read right now, so... eh.

With that in mind, I'm going with the age old advice from here: trade what's in front of you and not what you think might happen, which is a big green arrow for the time being.
 
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Jysin

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13:29 Goldman Sachs:
- Reportedly next week's earnings report will be its worst in years, with an ROE in low single digits; Results will put more pressure on embattled CEO Solomon - Semafor
- Goldman results expected to be markedly worse than other big Wall Street firms

 
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Big Phoenix

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13:29 Goldman Sachs:
- Reportedly next week's earnings report will be its worst in years, with an ROE in low single digits; Results will put more pressure on embattled CEO Solomon - Semafor
- Goldman results expected to be markedly worse than other big Wall Street firms

Banks start reporting tomorrow so we shall see.
This is insane. I don't understand. As the saying goes, don't try and predict a top. Jesus Christ, man. This right here is my blunder for the year.

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Apple is probably more wtf. Gone up 50% in 2023 so far all the while declining sales.
 

Sanrith Descartes

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That's the thing I know it will pull back. And I COULD still be okay. I bought an Aug 18 390 PUT. Which blows because it's right before earnings -- Sept would've been smarter. But at the time it looked like it was rolling over and 390 was ITM. Not anymore though!

Maybe the Nasdaq-100 restructuring might spark a sell off. Who knows, I'm guessing now which is my problem. I have no strategy just guessing. I mean, I knew this was a gamble and if the PUT goes to .01 then oh well. Just keep going backwards.

I suck at this.
This is one of the major reasons I only trade on the sell side of options. You always get to collect premium and not pay it and the worst case scenario is you get assigned a stock you wanted anyways. If something cataclysmic happens you can opt to buy to close at a loss buffered by the premium you collected or roll the option. I personally see much greater risk of losing on the buy side of options.
 
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Kargok

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Anheuser-Busch went from their flagship brand having a decades long lead in beer sales to laying off thousands in their bottling plants because demand has dropped off a cliff.

The result? $BUD stock price is still higher than it was last fall.

Will it tank on earnings or are my puts fucked?
 
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Tmac

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I'm going to buying XLF, XLE, and XLV not a ton of money but I'm not wanting to add anymore to S&P or QQQ positions. Also thinking about a few hundreds shares of TLT

I've actually identified these three and have been watching them. But, I can't exactly explain why. Based on the charting and recent historical patterns, it "feels like" they've started to tick next. Knowing if they're going to run or hit a ceiling is where I'm clueless.

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