IT/Software career thread: Invert binary trees for dollars.

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Celestein_sl said:
Jumping on every opportunity to make $75/h clearly.
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I always assume when I see people say, "I make 300k a year doing X!" that they got paid $35 one time for 15 minutes of work and just extrapolated it for a full year.

But lendarios is a good and honest man, and when he says he has a seven figure salary you can trust that he is a salaried employee who earns a static paycheck.
 
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Celestein_sl said:
Just from listening to people talk, I would argue that most the people in this thread are probably better developers than I am. The only difference is I understand my worth and demand it... I'm pushing towards 7 figure salaries for doing the SAME JOB as you guys, I work LESS hours, I actually produce less total! As a community of peers I'd really encourage you guys to not let yourselves get taken advantage of.
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This is what started it. The bogus claim of pushing toward as a developer. Me and other pointed out the inaccuracies of that statement.

Noodlemod_sl said:
7 figures what the fuck? Where the fuck do you work?

Am I the only one questioning that?
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lendarios_sl said:
i think he got confused.
As a developer you will never make 7 figures. unless u count the char '$' as a figure.

Are you counting decimals?!!!!
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He doubled down on it.
Celestein_sl said:
I didn't say immediately ask for 7 figures I'm just saying that it is possible to get there because that is your true value on the market
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Then it turned into it really means CIO...

Cad_sl said:
Depends if you call the CIO of a medium sized software company a developer, and if you count his stock options etc as compensation. I've heard of shit like that. I haven't heard of any salaried developer making $900k, anywhere ever.
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lendarios_sl said:
Why would you call a CIO, a developer?
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Then some more double down.

Celestein_sl said:
I still participate in the implementation/coding of most projects even in a leadership position. At the "bigs"(your googles), the average salary is around 250k~ but the variance is between 150k-700k~ or so, meaning ignoring outliers, there's a sizable number of in-the-grass developers making 600-700k at these companies doing the same work, and outliers making 7 figures plus.
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lendarios_sl said:
That is some Tanoomba'a level of retardation Cad. If is not in your job description, then it doesn't matter what you knowledge is, or what other skills you have, you are not it.
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Celestein_sl said:
Disagree, the problem is that the duties of a CIO vary based on company size and responsibility. If I'm the CIO of a startup I'm still coding, if I'm the CIO of Facebook I *may or may not* still be coding.
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lendarios_sl said:
So, the owner at my company, who answers and transfer phone calls three times a day, clearly a secretaries work; so he makes as a secretary 800k. That is what you are saying.

The CIO of a company that is a startup, does not make a salary of $700,000.
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Then we went into this HR beauty

Celestein_sl said:
Chances are a company spent 5x your yearly salary in the process of hiring you.
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But after that it was the running joke that I make seven figures, so I just embraced it. I believe noodle or Draegan, changed my tuconuts to reflect my newly found wealth. Its like an inside joke at this point.
 
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I still don't believe there are any actual heads-down developers anywhere making $900k+ as a "salary". If you own part of a startup that goes big, sure. But not as a developer with a salary. I ran into hourly roadblocks at 150-200/hr for sustained projects which limits your upside to 300-400k/yr if you're working pretty consistently.

If you leverage lackeys and run a consulting practice where you can bill $100/hr for your $50/hr lackeys, then yes but then you're not a "developer" ...
 
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We got your point, but it was leading. If we replace the word developer with accountant and cio with cfo, an equivalent comparison; then it becomes more odvios. Saying that been an accountant puts you in the career path to a seven figures salary as the CFO is misleading, and it's the same type of false advertising used in for profit colleges.
 
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I've heard some things about for-profit technical colleges like ITT and DeVry where a ton of their stats are misleading. Basically after graduating they have contracts with big ass companies to employ their students for 6 months but rarely do you get a full time gig off that. So "technically" 99% of their students have a job when they graduate but few of them have that job half a year after graduation. They also consider "working in their field of study" to basically mean they work on a computer. So if you type on a keyboard (like every office job on the planet these days) they tick you in for working in your field of study. So thats why they can say 80% of their graduates continue to work in their field of study.

Not sure any of it is true. I just read it one day.
 
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Not sure on them specifically, but my wife went to one of those for-profit schools (medical coding). The school got sued specifically because they were doing exactly what you said. They considered any job out of school (literally, any job at all) towards their stats of employment. They settled a class action lawsuit last year where people were getting full money paid to the school back ($20k-ish).
 
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