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Ha I told my wife we should AirBnB and just squat.



Thats a fair point. Though I figure if I'm moving out there I'd prefer to be in the zone between the beaches and the mountains. From what I understand up in the mountains/behind the mountains it gets pretty damn hot. There is some affordable housing in Santa Ana but from what I gather its a tad ghetto there. Irvine proper is 100% out of my budget. Even wrecks are in the 650k+ range. I was hoping to ideally stick around the 550k area which really only buys me a 2/2, not very updated, tiny back yard.
I'd look more in the huntington beach area maybe? I don't really know southern california very well but there's lots of normal middle class places to live. Not everywhere is Irvine or Newport Beach.
 

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I'd look more in the huntington beach area maybe? I don't really know southern california very well but there's lots of normal middle class places to live. Not everywhere is Irvine or Newport Beach.
Well I don't want to drive terribly far to work. Irvine is just outside of Huntington, Newport and Laguna beach. From what I understand you want to be as close to sea level as possible for the best possible climate. Like I said I was trying to avoid Santa Ana so that leaves some areas like Mission Viejo, Laguna Hills, Aliso Viejo, Laguna Nigel with what I was looking to buy into. But all of those are in the 550k+ range minimum. I'm perfectly fine downsizing my home it isn't that big a deal its just a bit of sticker shock.

There is a 55+ community called Laguna Woods that has affordable housing. Maybe I'll just have my parents "buy" a house there that I live in
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Don't you live in like Ohio or some fucking place currently? Anywhere in california is going to be an improvement
I really hate hot as fuck. I'd honestly prefer to live in Ohio than some place like Arizona or Texas or something. Like right now its hot and humid here and I prefer when its 20 and snowing to this shit.
 

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I really hate hot as fuck. I'd honestly prefer to live in Ohio than some place like Arizona or Texas or something. Like right now its hot and humid here and I prefer when its 20 and snowing to this shit.
You just want to be closer to Tri-State Tori.
 

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Thats a fair point. Though I figure if I'm moving out there I'd prefer to be in the zone between the beaches and the mountains. From what I understand up in the mountains/behind the mountains it gets pretty damn hot. There is some affordable housing in Santa Ana but from what I gather its a tad ghetto there. Irvine proper is 100% out of my budget. Even wrecks are in the 650k+ range. I was hoping to ideally stick around the 550k area which really only buys me a 2/2, not very updated, tiny back yard.
https://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/47-...4/home/4689618

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Tustin/237...2/home/5356299

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Mission-Vi...agent-insights

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Anaheim/64...2/home/4333772

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Anaheim/25...7/home/4329082

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/29-...9/home/5507065

And who wouldn't want to live in the heart of little saigon?https://www.redfin.com/CA/Garden-Gro...3/home/3470760
 

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Most of those are attached units. I was trying to get fully detached and with a bit of yard for my dog to do his stuff without me having to leash him and go out. Trust me I've done pretty exhaustive searching its just a really expensive area.
 

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Most of those are attached units. I was trying to get fully detached and with a bit of yard for my dog to do his stuff without me having to leash him and go out. Trust me I've done pretty exhaustive searching its just a really expensive area.
I'd make my housing and life decisions without consideration for animals, myself, but to each his own
 

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I'm more of a natural disaster kinda guy. Tornadoes or Earthquakes... that's a tough call. I think tornadoes though because I can hide from those.

I'm such a puss.
 

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I'm more of a natural disaster kinda guy. Tornadoes or Earthquakes... that's a tough call. I think tornadoes though because I can hide from those.

I'm such a puss.
100% temperature and political climate for me. I can't live anywhere where Republicans give a rats ass about Social issues. (I am a Mass Republican. IE: More or less a Democrat in the rest of the country)

To my anything below Rhode Island is the deep south. IE: Here there be people who fuck their sister.

I also need to live somewhere relevant. This means no flyover states. More or less it leaves North California and above along the Pacific Coast and the New England.
 

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100% temperature and political climate for me. I can't live anywhere where Republicans give a rats ass about Social issues. (I am a Mass Republican. IE: More or less a Democrat in the rest of the country)

To my anything below Rhode Island is the deep south. IE: Here there be people who fuck their sister.

I also need to live somewhere relevant. This means no flyover states. More or less it leaves North California and above along the Pacific Coast and the New England.
Dallas, Houston and Chicago are much more relevant/bigger markets than anywhere in the northeast besides NYC..

It basically goes like NYC, LA, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Washington DC, Philly... Boston is like #10

If you want to say culturally relevant Boston gets bonus points, but then so does the Bay area or Washington DC or Seattle which are relatively small markets for employment except in certain sectors.
 

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Dallas, Houston and Chicago are much more relevant/bigger markets than anywhere in the northeast besides NYC..

It basically goes like NYC, LA, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Washington DC, Philly... Boston is like #10

If you want to say culturally relevant Boston gets bonus points, but then so does the Bay area or Washington DC or Seattle which are relatively small markets for employment except in certain sectors.
Keep in mind I am in the Software Industry. Outside of Finance New York is irrelevant in this area. Outside of wasteful spending (i.e. Defense Contractors) Washington DC is as well. Same goes for Software.

Name major software companies based out of those three locations.
 

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Irvine is basically like one of the nicest places to live in the country though... Newport Beach/Irvine/Laguna Beach are pretty sick. Tenks I think you're married/no kids right? Nothing wrong with embracing that townhouse lifestyle to live in a place like that.
 

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Keep in mind I am in the Software Industry. Outside of Finance New York is irrelevant in this area. Outside of wasteful spending (i.e. Defense Contractors) Washington DC is as well. Same goes for Software.

Name major software companies based out of those three locations.
Thats a fair point, I don't know how Boston fares on that scale but I'd think Bay Area, Seattle, Austin, and maybe LA are the centers of the software world...I really have no idea what software companies are in NYC, probably not many.
 

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I don't care how relevant my city is, and Cambridge is a faggot town anyways. I just want a job I enjoy with good pay for my area.
 

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I don't care how relevant my city is, and Cambridge is a faggot town anyways. I just want a job I enjoy with good pay for my area.
How relevant your city is is just one of those things that kinda matters but mostly doesn't. Most people don't really spend time doing the cultural things at their city. They go to work/home/school and hang with friends at the types of places that are in every city.
 

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Thats a fair point, I don't know how Boston fares on that scale but I'd think Bay Area, Seattle, Austin, and maybe LA are the centers of the software world...I really have no idea what software companies are in NYC, probably not many.
Boston is second to Bay Area / Seattle. Seattle is only big due to both Microsoft and Amazon having a HUGEFUCKINGMONGERAOMGZ presence.

Driving between Woburn and Needham on 128 you see giant offices for all the big names (Fucking Oracle is a giant blight on the area. Was pretty hilarious watching Union protests as they went with non-union contractors.). Pretty much all the major players (Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Facebook) have large offices. Google is in the process of buying up the rest of multiple buildings in Boston as other tenants leases run out. Kinda curious how many are in the office now given that they have 3? towers of 13 floors (or so) and just reinforced the Parking Garage in order to build more office space on top.

Add to the fact as the Tech Sector grows from companies such as Google and Amazon who pay higher then average the cost of houses keeps going up.

I wouldn't be surprised if you could directly correlate the cost of living in a region to how many Software Developer positions there are.

PS: Noodle. I went to a customer briefing at the EMC Briefing Center this week. Most confusing building ever.
 

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Thats a really weird building anyways. I've never been, it's just a hidden away building. Even creepier is a little more up the street is a massive completely empty Emc building. It's there in case another building goes down. Hasn't been used ever I think
 

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Irvine is basically like one of the nicest places to live in the country though... Newport Beach/Irvine/Laguna Beach are pretty sick. Tenks I think you're married/no kids right? Nothing wrong with embracing that townhouse lifestyle to live in a place like that.
We don't have kids but like I said I'd like some outdoor space. I also don't have a job offer so I'll have to consider it more if things progress. For all I know Blizzard will think I'm an idiot over the phone and not pursue me.