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Rajaah said:
I tried out the first 30 minutes or so of XB3 and wasn't crazy about how everyone was wearing identical, gender-neutral, bland as fuck outfits. However I attributed it to them being soldiers in a warzone. So they wear those bland gender-neutral outfits for the entire game? XB2 had some stupid-looking outfits, but talk about losing out on creativity by homogenizing your characters.
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Each XC3 class has its own outfit and then learning those jobs on other characters gives them a similar variation of the outfit. Only some have M vs F changes or faction differences but it is still bland styles. Basically 25 (x6) whole outfits from the base game that are simply depressing.

DLCs later added a couple new outfits and jobs but they really dropped the ball.
 
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I swear the anime trope angry sexy woman thing has singly handily caused the poor birth rate in japan.

Pyra and mytha lol yeah… lets just say, i am surprised smash bros modeled them as “faithfully” as they did
 
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Rajaah said:
What did you hate about XB3?



I tried out the first 30 minutes or so of XB3 and wasn't crazy about how everyone was wearing identical, gender-neutral, bland as fuck outfits. However I attributed it to them being soldiers in a warzone. So they wear those bland gender-neutral outfits for the entire game? XB2 had some stupid-looking outfits, but talk about losing out on creativity by homogenizing your characters.

Another thing I don't like about XB2 is how much battle clutter there is. Do we really need 2x the characters onscreen (all of the good guys and bad guys, plus all of their blades)? Would have been cool if the Blades functioned as momentary summons that pop in to do their special attacks. But instead we have them scuttling around at all times, projecting beams onto their human, for what reason? What are they even doing? You end up with all this battle clutter where it's often hard to tell exactly what's going on. I miss the simplicity of just having your characters, the bad guy, and being able to clearly tell what's happening at all times.
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Quite a few things, but I REALLY liked XC2 so some of this is related to that.

1. Combat did not feel I could go as.crazy as I did in 2.
2. Absolutely hated the class systems. At its core I liked the idea but hated the execution. I felt like I was always levelling a new class rather than really picking a few I liked. I would've preferred if each class stuck to their roles and got classes within their roles.
3. Story... Meh. I liked some of it, but it was highly predictable.
4. Character design is super uninspired, especially the bad guys. They all felt the same.
5. World felt very bland.
 
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Yeah everything Noodle said.

Combat really dragged for me in XC3 whenever you had to execute a chain attack. Bosses felt like they took forever.

I think the overall story in XC2 is better and part of that is the villains are stronger with clearer goals.

Exploration in XC3 felt bad as the world was flat. XC2 had a lot more vertically to it and the hidden caves/coves were fun to find.

Really my biggest complaints with XC2 are the English VA and character designs(mostly Rex here).
 
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The chain attacks in 3 ruin the combat. X2 is the better game by far but like every Xenoblade game it takes a long time to get all the combat unlocked and for the real fun to start.

Stick with it.

Also the Torna DLC is maybe the best part of the series combat and pacing wise.
 
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Siliconemelons said:
The Lunar Remastered Collection is up for wishlisting and priced @ $50 April 18th - Switch lists price, others do not.

www.nintendo.com

LUNAR Remastered Collection for Nintendo Switch - Nintendo Official Site

Buy LUNAR Remastered Collection and shop other great Nintendo products online at the official My Nintendo Store.
www.nintendo.com www.nintendo.com

Rated T - just as the PSX remakes were.
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Waiting for the physical copies of this to drop on Amazon. They are going to be exclusive to Amazon.

 
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CaughtCross said:
Waiting for the physical copies of this to drop on Amazon. They are going to be exclusive to Amazon.

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Nice!

If they do not have some 150$ collectors member berry box, they are missing out on taking my money.

I have my lunar necklace and maps somewhere!! I know those boxes are somewhere in some box in my house.

I pray this is all well done. The thing I would love to see - and i think we have the graphic ability now, is to make it a living / playable anime. That’s what it always seemed like to me w all the cut scenes etc.

Also the old CD versions…. You knew something was going to happen when you heard you disc spinner kick in lol
 
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Derkon said:
Yeah everything Noodle said.

Combat really dragged for me in XC3 whenever you had to execute a chain attack. Bosses felt like they took forever.

I think the overall story in XC2 is better and part of that is the villains are stronger with clearer goals.

Exploration in XC3 felt bad as the world was flat. XC2 had a lot more vertically to it and the hidden caves/coves were fun to find.

Really my biggest complaints with XC2 are the English VA and character designs(mostly Rex here).
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Rex's character design is definitely pretty bad. He's the JRPG "stupid goggle boy archetype" 101.

I might actually like XC3's world being flat. I'm at my wit's end with XB2's verticality and how tedious some of the areas are to traverse / read the maps for.

Been hitting the game almost every evening and I'm on Chapter 6 (of 10) of XB2, so officially passed the halfway mark. Have about 40 hours on the clock (and that's intentionally trying to go fast / stick to the main quest) so this game is LONG. Lot of things I don't like about it, but I like enough for it to barely keep me onboard. It's definitely a Monolith / Xeno game.

Would really like to play the Torna DLC because the Torna stuff is much more interesting than XB2 to me. Torna is basically Xenogears Episode 4, the "500 years ago" Diabolos conflict that a bunch of the main game characters were somehow around for. I really wish we'd ever gotten an actual game based on XG Ep 4.
 
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Derkon said:
Shit, I forgot to preorder this. OOS on Amazon.
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CaughtCross said:
It has not been in stock on Amazon yet. So didn’t miss it.
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Keeping an eye on it…

And… you just cost me like a grand… that linked to suggestions on Custom Carts or something - a publisher that makes custom and collectors boxed editions w physical carts of digital only released games etc… their castlevania collection..omg
 
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Rajaah said:
Rex's character design is definitely pretty bad. He's the JRPG "stupid goggle boy archetype" 101.

I might actually like XC3's world being flat. I'm at my wit's end with XB2's verticality and how tedious some of the areas are to traverse / read the maps for.

Been hitting the game almost every evening and I'm on Chapter 6 (of 10) of XB2, so officially passed the halfway mark. Have about 40 hours on the clock (and that's intentionally trying to go fast / stick to the main quest) so this game is LONG. Lot of things I don't like about it, but I like enough for it to barely keep me onboard. It's definitely a Monolith / Xeno game.

Would really like to play the Torna DLC because the Torna stuff is much more interesting than XB2 to me. Torna is basically Xenogears Episode 4, the "500 years ago" Diabolos conflict that a bunch of the main game characters were somehow around for. I really wish we'd ever gotten an actual game based on XG Ep 4.
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To be fair a lot of the fanbase liked 3 much more than 2. XC2 was definitely very divisive.
 
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Noodleface said:
To be fair a lot of the fanbase liked 3 much more than 2. XC2 was definitely very divisive.
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I took a look at XB3 and liked the beginning (it's very Terminator 2 "war against the machines" during that intro). However it looked like there was no way to turn off battle voices like in XB1/XB2. If that's the case...yikes. I can't stand 8 characters all yelling over each other constantly during battles, spamming voice clips, drowning out the music.
 
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Rajaah said:
I took a look at XB3 and liked the beginning (it's very Terminator 2 "war against the machines" during that intro). However it looked like there was no way to turn off battle voices like in XB1/XB2. If that's the case...yikes. I can't stand 8 characters all yelling over each other constantly during battles, spamming voice clips, drowning out the music.
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Why would you wanna turn off one of the best parts of the games? What a bunch of jokers!
 
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CaughtCross said:
Why would you wanna turn off one of the best parts of the games? What a bunch of jokers!
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It's like I'm living in a different version of reality from a lot of JRPG fans. I do not get the appeal AT ALL of having 8 characters yelling over each other on a constant basis during a ten minute boss fight. I don't have any particular issue with someone yelling the name of a move as they do it, or something like that, but I do have an issue with the sheer noise in these games and how it drowns out the music.

If the character yelling was at a reduced level, like during big moves or reviving someone, it'd probably be okay. Instead it's a complete mess of constant yelling clips from all these characters at once. And yet I frequently hear JRPG fans saying how great this stuff is. It's like bizarro world.

Just give me the music and the sound effects of the battle. The Xeno series has always had great music, to say the least.
 
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Thorongil said:
I've been on a Fire Emblem kick lately, anyone else play these games? I guess more of a strategy RPG than a traditional JRPG
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I've played most of the FEs. For anyone wanting to get into the series, here's my input on it.

For me it's split into two main categories:

Classic Fire Emblem
NES: FE1, FE Gaiden
SNES: FE3, FE4, FE5
GBA: FE6, FE7, FE8

Modern Fire Emblem
FE Path of Radiance, FE Radiant Dawn, FE Shadow Dragon, FE Awakening, FE Fates, FE Shadows of Valentia, FE Engage, Three Houses, etc

The modern ones all kinda blend together for me. Some of them are better than others. FE Engage was the latest one I think and that one was pretty rad. Shadow Dragon is a super hard remake of FE1, while Shadows of Valentia is a remake of FE Gaiden.

If one wants to play the modern ones with anime characters and nice visuals, pretty much just jump in wherever. I'd probably start with the latest one and go back from there, since most of them aren't really connected.

If one wants to play the classic games that focus much more on deep stories and giant battles (that sometimes go on too long lol) with a more 90's fantasy aesthetic rather than anime, then I'd pick one of the three categories and do that set. The NES duo are super antiquated at this point but are where it all began and interesting to revisit. The SNES trio are debatably the high point of the whole series, with FE4 often spoken of as the best FE game. The GBA trio is my personal favorite part of the series, just be sure to play FE7 before FE6 as it's a prequel.

For what it's worth, if I ever do an FE series replay it'll be 1-8 and likely ignoring everything after that. I like how linear these games are and how it's impossible to get lost, which makes them ideal things to play during mindless downtime where one needs to relax.

TLDR for folks new to FE: For the full Fire Emblem classic experience, either start at FE1 or FE3 (depending on your patience level for NES gameplay) and go from there. The option of emulator speedup makes all of these a lot better. For the modern FE experience just grab any of the post-2005 or so FEs for your system of choice.
 
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Rajaah said:
I've played most of the FEs. For anyone wanting to get into the series, here's my input on it.

For me it's split into two main categories:

Classic Fire Emblem
NES: FE1, FE Gaiden
SNES: FE3, FE4, FE5
GBA: FE6, FE7, FE8

Modern Fire Emblem
FE Path of Radiance, FE Radiant Dawn, FE Shadow Dragon, FE Awakening, FE Fates, FE Shadows of Valentia, FE Engage, Three Houses, etc

The modern ones all kinda blend together for me. Some of them are better than others. FE Engage was the latest one I think and that one was pretty rad. Shadow Dragon is a super hard remake of FE1, while Shadows of Valentia is a remake of FE Gaiden.

If one wants to play the modern ones with anime characters and nice visuals, pretty much just jump in wherever. I'd probably start with the latest one and go back from there, since most of them aren't really connected.

If one wants to play the classic games that focus much more on deep stories and giant battles (that sometimes go on too long lol) with a more 90's fantasy aesthetic rather than anime, then I'd pick one of the three categories and do that set. The NES duo are super antiquated at this point but are where it all began and interesting to revisit. The SNES trio are debatably the high point of the whole series, with FE4 often spoken of as the best FE game. The GBA trio is my personal favorite part of the series, just be sure to play FE7 before FE6 as it's a prequel.

For what it's worth, if I ever do an FE series replay it'll be 1-8 and likely ignoring everything after that. I like how linear these games are and how it's impossible to get lost, which makes them ideal things to play during mindless downtime where one needs to relax.

TLDR for folks new to FE: For the full Fire Emblem classic experience, either start at FE1 or FE3 (depending on your patience level for NES gameplay) and go from there. The option of emulator speedup makes all of these a lot better. For the modern FE experience just grab any of the post-2005 or so FEs for your system of choice.
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I think this is a good summary. I'd probably say to play FE3 as the first one since it has a lot of QOL improvements over the NES version and it's still essentially the same game

I've played FE4/5 and then Path of Radiance recently and working through Radiant Dawn now. Had a crazy good Path of Radiance file to transfer stats with that I boss abused a bunch of xp and have like 15 characters at 20/20 with several maxed stats lol

I liked Engage gameplay wise but man the story is trash and the characters are way too anime for my liking

Really hoping they drop a new game soon
 
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