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Brother you are smoking crack, the music rules in this game lol
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Siliconemelons
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BOTW and TOTK are /very/ different if you a big fan of the "typical" methodology of "adventure" aka "zelda" games with the item and dungeon based progression etc. However I think BOTW is an awesome game, I like it better than TOTK.
The dungeons in skyward sword are also too easy. I expect to get stuck a few times in a zelda game but there is too much hand holding in skyward, whatever the "idea" of the dungeon is, that cunt will spoil it to you.
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Siliconemelons
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See here is the issue. Whenever they did the dousing sword pointing stupid nonsense they made it “easy” so that the crappy wand waving bull would not ruin the game, so they in turn- broke its difficulty.
If they removed the “novelty” and also turn the “dark mode” back to inline with twilight princess- it would have been a good game… but Nintendo hates twilight princess and “dark/mature Zelda game” - and they have to have a “novelty” in the game - or they feel they are just rehashing the “same thing” and they wont get new players- who can “just play the old ones again” - Nintendo has some really Asian jap boomer mode brain in some things…
Skyward sword has some really dark and powerful moments, but then your stupid sword starts talking to you and the gay twink fake villain tries to make the moves on you and it destroys the gravitas of the entire game.
The beginning, the time temple part and the final battle, that’s all you need- go watch YouTube.
Rajaah
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It's too bad Skyward isn't on PS5. Putting aside the obvious visual improvements (even the Switch "HD" version of Skyward, which I grabbed from the local library and started over on, looks like a PS3 game at best), I'd like to see what the trophy percentages would be for the game. I bet it'd be like 94% on a "press start" type trophy and then drop down to like 40% on a "finish the first area" trophy. It's no joke that those first 3 hours or so are absolutely brutal. Well, I got back to the first dungeon in the HD version so I'm in it now.
Egoraptor (the Game Grump that wasn't Jontron) must have been having fits playing Skyward, since it violates a bunch of the design principles he talked about in his Sequelitis videos. He gave the game a bit of a smacking in the Zelda video he did:
I got BOTW at launch with the Switch, played it for a couple hours, and gave up. Ya, the last decade and a half Zelda games and I haven't really agreed. Didn't like the open world nature of it (prefer a tight, well thought-out game) and didn't like the way weapons break. To this day I occasionally hear people say BOTW is better than Elden Ring and that gives me an uproarious laugh. I should play the rest of BOTW just to be able to legitimately compare the two from experience. Maybe I'll make a bid to "catch up" on Zelda this year, only four games behind.
"MEGAMAN MEGAMAN! WATCH OUT FOR THE PIT IN FRONT OF YOU!"
Man, if there was an option to remove Fi from the game altogether it would instantly be improved tenfold. Sad to hear that the dungeons are easy and that she even spoils those, I figured the dungeons at the very least would be exempt from the handholding.
No, it makes it worse. I thought I'd like the Switch version more since it has the option to play it with a regular controller. But guess what? Attacking is now done with the right analog stick and it feels so goddamn awkward. I actually changed it BACK to motion controls after a few minutes.
The villain isn't as terrible as the bad guy in Twilight Princess. Gant or whatever his name was. They made him all dark and menacing for 90% of the game, then in the last 10% he turns into a prancing, yapping clown and completely retroactively ruins his own aura.
Siliconemelons
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Yeah both Skyward and Twilight didnt quite pull of the ol' switcharoo it really /is/ Gannon/Demise all along although we were super cereal that it wasn't for the whole game! haha
Rajaah
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SPOILER ALERT! Asshole!
.....just kidding lol
Reminds me of the Mega Man classic / X serieses. Every game there's some new big bad guy to deal with, then at the 11th hour AYO HOLD UP, it's Dr. Wily or Sigma again.
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Siliconemelons
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We are all about spoilers over here- but as this is the JRPG thread, spoiler alert - the plot is convoluted, usually has something to do with aliens/religion is bad and the good guys win, maybe.
Hateyou
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Siliconemelons
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Yeah true, that part is usually the extension of the "good guys win... maybe...->timetravel/simulation/dream"
lol
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Anyone played Fantasian? I completely forgot it was coming out last month and never really heard much about it before that since it was an Apple Arcade exclusive.
If it's good I'm leaning towards getting the Switch version while physical carts are still available. Just based on the weird availability (Xbox digital only, physical Switch/PS5 only from Amazon, etc.) it seems like one of those games that have a very short print run and then the prices go through the roof (like Legend of Heroes).
If it's good I'm leaning towards getting the Switch version while physical carts are still available. Just based on the weird availability (Xbox digital only, physical Switch/PS5 only from Amazon, etc.) it seems like one of those games that have a very short print run and then the prices go through the roof (like Legend of Heroes).
Rajaah
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It's nuts how many SNES JRPGs have the "church is evil" theme. Breath of Fire 2 (probably my biggest remaining unplayed SNES game) practically revolves around the theme. Even Chrono Trigger has that theme, most notably at the beginning (Cathedral) and very end (Lavos Core as an allegory for God in the dialogue).
I've heard that this trend is because of Japan's grappling with Christianity over the centuries and how it took over their culture / obsoleted their previous icons.
Japan is about 1% Christian and 75% Buddhist/Shinto. I was just there for two weeks and didn't see a single church or Western religious icon. Temples and shrines on literally every corner.
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I would consider TotK to have had some dark moments. It felt like a fairly grown up story to me. Twilight Princess wolf portions wore thin. I may give that and Ocarina of Time a go again. Both are fairly mature Zelda games in my opinion, but Zelda always has some weird shit in it. Like all JAP games.
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Rajaah
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As I understand it, the traditional Japanese religions have long since retaken precedence over Christianity. For several hundred years Christianity was dominant, though, and it created a cultural sore spot that made it into most of their RPGs later on for some reason.
AFAIK Christianity hasn't been big in Japan in about a hundred years. Most of the remaining Christian culture there was concentrated in Hiroshima, which, incidentally, got annihilated. The distrust of western religion persists regardless.
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