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The judge did a lot of stupid ass stuff in that trial but this wasn't one of them. Nothing he could have said would have been in front of the jury so none of it is "testimony."
Is there a compilation or list somewhere of all the shit she did that would be considered unfair to the defense?
 

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Is there a compilation or list somewhere of all the shit she did that would be considered unfair to the defense?
Not that I'm aware of, but I'm sure it exists. The verdict kinda makes it unimportant now.
 

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Where was the shot really fired at? All articles I'd read said UP not AT like some are saying here.

AT would really put me on the fence about it since how do you distinguish a warning shot at from a miss?
Last time I read up the bullet went through the wall and ended up in the ceiling in the other room which doesnt sound like firing straight up in the air to me at all
 

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The four-term mayor of Washington, D.C., Marion Barry, has now brought his healing touch to the proceedings.

The Zimmerman verdict was "awful," he said, another example of "institutionalized racism." But look to Marion to find a bright side.

"The good news is that Zimmerman will never be in peace. He won't be able to get a job. He'll have to go underground, travel incognito and never live in peace. That's the good news for me." Now a comment like that might befit a James Earl Ray. But George Zimmerman? Who turned this neighborhood watch fellow, well-liked by all in his community, into some racist monster?
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Moments after the verdict, Al Sharpton ranted, "This is an atrocity." He went on to explain the moral outrage that the ladies of the jury had just committed.

"What this jury has done is establish a precedent that when you are young and fit a certain profile, you can becommitting no crime, just bringing some Skittles and iced tea home to your brother, and be killed."
 

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The four-term mayor of Washington, D.C., Marion Barry, has now brought his healing touch to the proceedings.

The Zimmerman verdict was ?awful,? he said, another example of ?institutionalized racism.? But look to Marion to find a bright side.

?The good news is that Zimmerman will never be in peace. He won?t be able to get a job. He?ll have to go underground, travel incognito and never live in peace. That?s the good news for me.? Now a comment like that might befit a James Earl Ray. But George Zimmerman? Who turned this neighborhood watch fellow, well-liked by all in his community, into some racist monster?
Was it institutionalized racism when they taped Marion Barry smoking crack in a hotel room with a hooker? Who's next, Kwame Kilpatrick?
 

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Just to show that this Zimmerman thing isn't some singular anomaly, here's the story of Edmund Perry, 18 year old black male shot by an undercover police officer in New York in 1985, and following is an article by people in the black media still circulating their completely disproven narrative regarding that shooting from nearly 30 years later. Also, a People magazine article from shortly after that shooting, doing the same blatant race baiting narrative twisting we've come to expect from this case

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Perry

Edmund Perry was a 17-year-old Harlem resident who was shot to death by a plainclothes policeman on June 12, 1985. The case briefly generated a firestorm of protest in New York City when it was revealed that Perry was an honor student and was enrolled to attend Stanford on a scholarship; however, witnesses claimed that Perry and his brother had attempted to mug the officer, and the shooting was ruled justifiable.

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Lee Van Houten, a 24-year-old plainclothes policeman, was on assignment in the Morningside Park section of Manhattan on the night of June 12, 1985, when he was assaulted by two men who attempted to mug him. According to Van Houten, he was approached from behind and yanked to the ground by his neck, where two black men beat him and demanded that he give them money. He drew his gun from his ankle holster and fired three times, hitting Edmund Perry in the abdomen. The other attacker fled, and was later identified by witnesses as Jonah Perry, Edmund's brother.
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At the time of his death, Perry was a recent graduate of Phillips Exeter Academy in Exeter, New Hampshire, one of the most prestigious preparatory schools in the United States. The revelation of this fact led to significant press coverage, much of it unfavorable to the police. The front page headline of the New York Post the next day was "COP KILLS HARLEM HONOR STUDENT". The Village Voice suggested that Perry was shot because he was "too black for his own good", and the New York Times wrote that "...the death of Edmund Perry raises painfully troubling questions".
However, 23 witnesses backed up Van Houten's version of events, and the media firestorm was short-lived. Van Houten was cleared of any culpability in the shooting. Jonah Perry, an alumnus of the Westminster School in Simsbury CT, was later put on trial for assaulting Van Houten. He was found not guilty.
Perry's experiences at Exeter and the circumstances surrounding his death formed the basis of the best-selling 1987 book Best Intentions: The Education and Killing of Edmund Perry, written by Robert Sam Anson.
On January 6, 1992, NBC aired the TV movie Murder Without Motive: The Edmund Perry Story, directed by Kevin Hooks. Perry was portrayed by Curtis McClarin.
The first-season episode of Law & Order, "Poison Ivy" was inspired by Perry.
Michael Jackson's 1987 "Bad" music video was inspired by Edmund Perry, particularly Michael's character who is peer-pressured by his friends when he returns home from his honors high school.

http://newblackman.blogspot.com/2012...erry-case.html

Still the 'Best Intentions'?: Edmund Perry Case Resonates Years Later
by Mark Anthony Neal | NewBlackMan

If there was a shared belief regarding the promises of the Civil Rights Movement, it was the faith that with the legal limits of segregation removed, young Black Americans would be able to achieve the American Dream if they adhered to a program of hard work and dutiful study.

In June of 1985, Harlem bred Edmund Perry seemed the embodiment of that faith, having just graduated from one of the nation's most prestigious prep schools with his first year at Stanford University awaiting him in the fall. Instead, 17-year-old Perry was shot to death in his Harlem neighborhood by a White undercover detective, in what was "officially" termed an act of self-defense. Nearly three decades after his shooting, Edmund Perry's death still resonates in meaningful ways.

On the evening of June 12, 1985, Perry and his 19-year-old brother Jonah, a second year student at Cornell University, were walking on Morningside Drive in Harlem. After a skirmish with an undercover police officer, Perry was shot in his abdomen and died shortly thereafter.

The story of Perry's death elicited many public responses, particularly in the context of regular charges of police brutality directed at the New York City police department. Suspicions of the NYPD occurred in the aftermath of the questionable deaths of the graffiti artist Michael Stewart and 66-year-old Elenor Bumphers who was shot-to-death during a forcible eviction in the Bronx. As noted cultural critic Nelson George queried at the time of Perry's death, "Was Edmund, like so many other victims of this city, just too black for his own good?"


Less than a month after Perry's death, a police investigation cleared the officer of any wrongdoing and Jonah Perry was indicted on charges of assault of the police officer. Perry's family was represented by attorney C. Vernon Mason, who along with attorney Alton Maddox, who successfully defended Jonah Perry, and the Reverend Al Sharpton, would form the political triumvirate that came to national prominence in the late 1980s in response to the rape case of Tawanna Brawley and the murder of Yusef Hawkins. Edmund Perry's death was one of the many events that inspired Spike Lee's depiction of racial tensions in New York City in his film Do the Right Thing (1989)

Yet the predominate question after Perry's death was not about the reality of police brutality, but rather how someone with so much promise and opportunity, could engage in such reckless behavior?

Commentary on Edmond Perry's life and death became a referendum on the continuance of poverty, racism and the failure of liberalism-a belief by some, that even given the opportunity to attend preps schools like Exeter or Westminster, a "culture of poverty," doomed some Black students to failure.

http://www.people.com/people/archive...091324,00.html

On the evening of June 12 those worlds collided at the park's western border. Something happened, and when it was over, a young black, Edmund Perry, 17, lay on the sidewalk, mortally wounded in the abdomen by a .38 cal. slug from the gun of plainclothes police officer Lee Van Houten. Four hours later Perry died. The authorities say that he and his brother, Jonah, 19, were mugging Van Houten when the policeman fired in self-defense.

Muggings are common in New York. And people-especially black teenagers-get shot all the time. Just an hour after Perry was shot, a Brooklyn grocer allegedly killed three black youths in a dispute over a 65-cent can of soda. But Jonah and Edmund Perry, in all of Harlem, seemed among the least likely young men to risk life and future by committing a crime. Just 10 days before he died Edmund had graduated with honors from Phillips Exeter Academy, the prestigious, 204-year-old New England prep school, which he attended on full scholarship. He'd spent his junior year abroad in Spain. He was going to Stanford University (having turned down Yale) in the fall. And he had a $175-a-week summer job as a clerk with Kidder, Peabody & Co., the Wall Street brokerage house.

Jonah, also a prep school graduate (Connecticut's Westminster School, Class of '84), was going into his sophomore year as an engineering student at Cornell University and was about to begin a $185-a-week job as a neighborhood-association camp counselor. Neither had ever run afoul of the law. They were the pride of their Harlem neighborhood, held up as models of what hard work could achieve. Both seemed destined for successful futures far from the mean streets where they were born. What happened?

According to the police, Van Houten, 24, dressed in a sweatshirt, dungarees and white sneakers, was walking the brightly lit but lightly traveled parkside block on the lookout for thieves breaking into cars. If he spotted any criminal activity, Van Houten was to radio his backup team-a sergeant and two officers trailing him in an unmarked station wagon.

Suddenly, the police say, when his backup had lost sight of him around a corner, Van Houten was jumped by two black youths. One, allegedly Edmund Perry, punched the side of his head while the other, allegedly Jonah, yoked him from behind and dragged him to the pavement.

According to his lawyer, Van Houten tried to shout "Police!" but the word was muffled by a blow to his head. Pinned down and being pummeled by one of his attackers, his lawyer says, Van Houten feared for his life, pulled a pistol from his ankle holster and fired three shots. One felled Edmund Perry, who, says the lawyer, was standing a few feet away. The other youth, reportedly wearing a dark blue sweatshirt or sweater, was not hit and fled.

Within 24 hours the police announced that a departmental investigation had found nothing to dispute in Van Houten's account, and that "several" unnamed witnesses corroborated it. The department concluded that Van Houten had followed police guidelines permitting an officer to use deadly force-as a last resort-if he has good reason to believe that his life is in danger.

A grand jury investigating the incident reached the same conclusion early this month, clearing Van Houten and indicting Jonah Perry for assault and attempted robbery. If convicted, he faces up to seven years in prison on each charge.

Those who have known the Perry brothers reacted to the killing and the mugging charge with shock, disbelief and outrage. Alan Brooks, track coach at Westminster prep, where scholarship student Jonah was captain of the team, describes him as "a really swell kid. A nicer guy does not exist, as far as I'm concerned." To mug someone "is just completely out of character. It just does not compute."

Edmund's friends were equally incredulous. Kevin Johnson, 18, was Edmund's best friend on the block of public-housing tenements where the Perrys live. "We was like family," Kevin says. "When he came home we'd go out and have a congratulations meal because he was doing so good."

Kevin, who says he had been playing basketball with Edmund until shortly before his death, figures he went to the other side of the park to eat at the College Inn, a luncheonette near Columbia. "I honestly believe he didn't jump on that cop. Ed was always against crime. He was out to make Harlem something better than what it was, but he just couldn't do it by himself."

"Eddie never steals from anyone. No way. No way," maintains Edmund's best friend at Exeter, Kennett Marshall, 18, the stepson of Dick Clark, a former U.S. Senator from Iowa. "He's a very moral and religious guy. He doesn't do things unless they're right. I know he didn't mug anyone. If they get away with this..." says Marshall, shaking his head, his sky-blue eyes filling with tears. "This was going to be our big summer." Marshall donated a $1,000 graduation gift from his grandfather to Mrs. Perry for funeral expenses.

The teenagers' mother, Veronica Perry, 37, an assistant Head Start teacher who is an elected member of Community School Board No. 3, which includes a large tract of middle-class Manhattan, was on her way home from a school board meeting when, at about 11 p.m., a neighbor told her that Edmund had been shot. "I thought, 'This is utterly ludicrous,' " she recalls. "My son carried no gun or knife because he walked with God. He always said, 'Jesus fights my battles.'

"My older son [Jonah] has a real temper. You get him mad and he'll hit you. But Ed didn't like to fight-he was a negotiator. That's why it's unbelievable," she adds. "If the man had said, 'I'm a police officer,' Ed would have raised his hands and said, 'Take me,' because my sons know cops shoot little black boys. He premeditated and took a gun and killed my baby."

Many Harlem residents believe that the shooting was racially motivated. The week after the incident, some 1,000 marched to Van Houten's station house, chanting "Stop killing us!" Says the Rev. Preston Washington of Memorial Baptist Church, who had led a special service to honor Edmund Perry's academic achievements the Sunday before he was killed, "The police kill and ask questions later. It's a new form of lynching. The police don't value black life at all."

The Reverend Washington says that Edmund was a deeply religious young man. "He was a member of the Memorial Youth Fellowship; he took part in our retreats; he was an usher. The only thing he wouldn't do is sing. But even if Edmund were the biggest criminal on earth, does that justify killing over a mugging?" asks Washington. "We're talking about the preciousness of black life."

The only ones who know for sure what happened on the night of June 12 are Lee Van Houten and the young black man who fled. According to a Puerto Rican fellow police officer who spoke to the New York Times, Van Houten had "never showed signs of racism." In his two years on the force he had won a reputation as a levelheaded officer, as well as a commendation for apprehending a man with a gun. He had never before fired his own gun except in practice.

Van Houten, treated at nearby St. Luke's Hospital Center, reportedly for a bloody nose, cut lip, scraped arm and sprained neck, remained on sick leave at home in suburban Rockland County a month after the incident and refused to talk to the press. "Lee really doesn't want to get into this," his lawyer explained.

The police claim to have an increasing mass of evidence that the man who fled was Jonah. They say that neighborhood witnesses have told them that Jonah played basketball with Edmund and bet a trip to the movies on the game's outcome. Jonah lost, but neither had any money and Jonah suggested that he and Ed "rip off" someone, the police say. (Sources in the Manhattan district attorney's office say no money was found on Edmund.) Jonah showed up at the hospital shortly after the shooting. And the blue sweater Jonah was wearing when he arrived at the hospital was "not inconsistent" with the clothing worn by the second youth-whose face Van Houten never saw. The police claim other witnesses, none of whom have spoken out or been identified publicly, saw Jonah run back from the park at about 9:30, saying, "We got a DT," street slang for "detective."

Jonah, who declined to testify before the grand jury, denies that he was with Edmund. "Anyone who says I was there, they're not just making a mistake, they're lying," he says. He suggests that he and everyone else with anything to say about the case should take lie-detector tests.

Jonah says that after the basketball game, he walked east to his grandmother's house, and Ed walked west, in the direction of the park. Later, Jonah says, he walked west to look for Ed. He reached the foot of the park when he heard shots. "A dude ran up and said your brother's been shot," Jonah recalls. Although this individual knew who Jonah was, Jonah claims not to know who he was. "He was just someone from the street."

So far no one has come forward to support Jonah's account of his actions, but at his trial there may be testimony that casts some doubt on the police description of the incident. Dr. Sidney B. Weinberg, a nationally known forensic pathologist from Long Island, attended Edmund's autopsy at the request of the Perry family. He says, "The wound was downward and backward, not upward. I don't think [the officer] fired from the ground. I don't see how that could be possible." Weinberg also says that there were no marks on Edmund's hands or body to indicate that he had been in a fight.

Meanwhile, the surviving Perry brother, freed in his own custody, holds to his story, and the police, apparently buttressed by considerable evidence, hold to theirs. Edmund Perry, whose short life bridged two wholly different worlds, lies buried in a loamy area of New Jersey's Fair Lawn Memorial Cemetery. His mother says, "I don't feel any hate or malice. I'm overjoyed my son is with the King." As for the questions surrounding what happened that June night, Veronica Perry has an answer: "God knows the truth."
 

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For those bitching about Obama making a public statement about the trial, in my view it was better to say something moderate (as I feel he did) and try and diffuse the riled up ignorant masses than for him to stand by and let another Rodney King shitfest ensue. Nothing he or Holder said was inappropriate and both were clear about respecting the jury. It would be nice if the black community would take some time to seriously evaluate both the President and Bill Cosby's comments and reflect on them, but we all know that is not going to happen. Too many race baiters making bank off of stoking this shit.

The possibility of a civil rights case here is just stupid, though. The prosecution fucked up on many levels and the courts are rough on blacks. This happens everywhere, honestly. It sucks, but that's just the reality.

The only part of the Zimzam thing I am annoyed by is how his retired judge old man pulled out all the stops to get him out of trouble. The cops were very clearly in his pocket from the beginning. Must be nice to have that level of legal defense, too. That said, the correct verdict was delivered based on the laws and case tried.
 

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For those bitching about Obama making a public statement about the trial, in my view it was better to say something moderate (as I feel he did) and try and diffuse the riled up ignorant masses than for him to stand by and let another Rodney King shitfest ensue. Nothing he or Holder said was inappropriate and both were clear about respecting the jury. It would be nice if the black community would take some time to seriously evaluate both the President and Bill Cosby's comments and reflect on them, but we all know that is not going to happen. Too many race baiters making bank off of stoking this shit.

The possibility of a civil rights case here is just stupid, though. The prosecution fucked up on many levels and the courts are rough on blacks. This happens everywhere, honestly. It sucks, but that's just the reality.

The only part of the Zimzam thing I am annoyed by is how his retired judge old man pulled out all the stops to get him out of trouble. The cops were very clearly in his pocket from the beginning. Must be nice to have that level of legal defense, too. That said, the correct verdict was delivered based on the laws and case tried.
We'll see if it makes any difference. I mean, a black man is in the whitehouse but everything is still racist and meant to keep the black community down. Its like we're in a Mel Brooks comedy.
 

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I question the whole grandiose social engineering strategy for equality. I just can't believe the only way to gain equality is by constantly stressing how different we are. Constantly dividing our views into camps, where are the SHARED values, instead of the combative talking points.
 

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The only part of the Zimzam thing I am annoyed by is how his retired judge old man pulled out all the stops to get him out of trouble. The cops were very clearly in his pocket from the beginning. Must be nice to have that level of legal defense, too. That said, the correct verdict was delivered based on the laws and case tried.
Are you fucking kidding me. His dad was a retired magistrate from Virginia. I guarantee the cops in fucking Sanford Florida don't give a shit about retired magistrate 4 states away.
 

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For those bitching about Obama making a public statement about the trial, in my view it was better to say something moderate (as I feel he did) and try and diffuse the riled up ignorant masses than for him to stand by and let another Rodney King shitfest ensue. Nothing he or Holder said was inappropriate and both were clear about respecting the jury. It would be nice if the black community would take some time to seriously evaluate both the President and Bill Cosby's comments and reflect on them, but we all know that is not going to happen. Too many race baiters making bank off of stoking this shit.

The possibility of a civil rights case here is just stupid, though. The prosecution fucked up on many levels and the courts are rough on blacks. This happens everywhere, honestly. It sucks, but that's just the reality.

The only part of the Zimzam thing I am annoyed by is how his retired judge old man pulled out all the stops to get him out of trouble. The cops were very clearly in his pocket from the beginning. Must be nice to have that level of legal defense, too. That said, the correct verdict was delivered based on the laws and case tried.
Obama is the fucking problem. He riles up and gives a sense of legitimacy to the brain dead retarded masses who scream "NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE" and other such horse shit.
 

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All zimzam has to do is lose his trial fat, grow a stache and or a goatee and get a tan and they wont recognize him at all, and if they do they still wont do shit because they know hes packing iron and will use it.
 

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I can guarantee if he didn't try to diffuse things with the 'maybe we'll find something they missed' angle you'd be bitching about the riots or whatever other reactions it helped temper.
 

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All zimzam has to do is lose his trial fat, grow a stache and or a goatee and get a tan and they wont recognize him at all, and if they do they still wont do shit because they know hes packing iron and will use it.
You think it was depression that caused his weight gain or was it something his lawyers recommended?
 

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All zimzam has to do is lose his trial fat, grow a stache and or a goatee and get a tan and they wont recognize him at all, and if they do they still wont do shit because they know hes packing iron and will use it.
Most companies have an immediate DQ in hiring for those bringing a gun to an interview legally permitted or not.
 
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