Justice for Zimmerman

That's one blessed hour of freedom, enjoy it while it lasts folks.

I dunno man. Celebrate the return of rationality for an hour I'd say.

No, see, you're giving Tanoomba credit for trying to make a real point, instead of just realizing he was looking for a reason to sit here and soapbox and get all self righteous about nothing some more.

khalid_sl said:

Tanoomba pointing out that that kind of casual racism (I am hoping most of it is joking) or whatever you want to call it is a problem is something that is an almost too obvious truth.

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based on what hard evidence? Political correctness has been around 40 years there should be plenty of graphs and charts showing direct causal links.

It's really the scientists that fucked this up, they perpetuated the idea in the 19th century that there are races, as hodj will point out that's a fallacy genetically speaking, ethnicity and culture are more defining characteristics. Those are man made characteristics and you aren't born with them and as such I feel perfectly fine pointing out shitty culture just the same as people can point out shitty culture to me and i'll judge if it's warranted or not. The fact that people argue that white Americans are racist is itself an implicit recognition that culture can be shitty.

American Inventor in this day doesn't mean all black people unless you have the 19th century mentality, it really just means ghetto trash, if someone says ghetto trash gonna ghetto trash nobody bats an eye but it's the same exact thing localized to a specific color.

white trash gonna white trash.
cholo gonna cholo.

Changing the language doesn't even work because without changing the underlying conditions that give the words teeth the new politically correct words eventually just assume the usage of the old word.


"A common criticism is that terms chosen by an identity group, as acceptable descriptors of themselves, then pass into common usage, including usage by the racists and sexists whose racism and sexism, et cetera, the new terms mean to supersede. Alternatively put, the new terms gradually acquire the same disparaging connotations as the old terms. The new terms are thus devalued, and another set of words must be coined, giving rise to lengthy progressions such as Negro, Colored, Black, Afro-American, African-American, and so on, (cf.Euphemism treadmill)."

khalid_sl said:

That is pretty much your core philosophy isn't it?

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what are you talking about with the engineers plot the problem lay with lenin and stalin? so I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. And I can show you a million areas where science did bad instead of good, so yes there is kinda of a slight problem in placing 100% trust into any group.

Yes they may be smarter than the average person but in the grand scale they are barely smarter and it's dangerous to assume they will be right about everything, the scientific process is great for figuring out the material world but the respect from that arena has in the past been abused in the soft sciences

Scientists do have dramatic influence are you high?, Repeatedly in my lifetime from multiple sources they openly declare they want to take the position in society religion used to occupy.
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We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.

In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.

Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present

and is gravely to be regarded.
Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientifictechnological elite.

It is the task of statesmanship to mold, to balance, and to integrate these and other forces, new and old, within the principles of our democratic system -- ever aiming toward the supreme goals of our free society.


Dwight D Eisenhower.

also this principle is in play as well.

khalid_sl said:

Scientists don't have nearly enough influence and your thesis that scientists are the core of all problems is deeply disturbing. Are YOU fucking high?

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Are you kidding me? political correctness came directly from scientific papers, there's all kinds of influence science has on the society, what people who worship scientists really want is for them to be directly in control and manage society, you may see that as perfectly natural but that can be extremely dangerous as well.