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Is this worth jumping into for the first time right now or should I be waiting for the update in late April?

I'd wait for the wipe unless you just want to get a feel for some builds/systems. Campaign will probably take you ~8-10 hours.
 
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Khane

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Is this worth jumping into for the first time right now or should I be waiting for the update in late April?

The game is pretty cheap and is good enough to warrant the price.

There are enough systems its probably worth doing a playthrough to learn the basics so you're ready and understand what the changes even mean.

The Circle of Fortune and Merchant factions alone are worth investigating and understanding. Circle of Fortune is the solo self-found faction and Merchant is the trade faction.
 
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Hateyou

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I’d say it’s worth jumping in as well. Get a solid month in the current season to learn everything and figure out what kind of build you want. New goodies next month:
 

rhinohelix

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It's a good but not great game that as many others have said does a lot with less than D4 or the time over target of GGG; it's combat isn't best in class but still good, and a lot of great ideas are in the game. Will be back with the new season.
 
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Tried to fire this up yesterday and ive been spoiled by WASD movement in other ARPGs now. This is a no go, which sucks bc I wanted to enjoy it again
 
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Smart move delaying it. In fact this was probably DoA if they released next to poe2 and now people can properly shit on the new poe2 patch.
😂 This was spot on.

I'm thinking of giving this a go on the 17th. It would be my first go at it and after looking at some builds, beastmaster sounds like a fun start.
 
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Penance

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😂 This was spot on.

I'm thinking of giving this a go on the 17th. It would be my first go at it and after looking at some builds, beastmaster sounds like a fun start.
Yea admittedly was off base. I wish I was playing LE right now.
 

Aazrael

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Are they shaking up the classes with the patch?

Or will the old guides work?

Looking forward to get my Minion Cuckery fix in this game instead. Quite enjoyed the 1.0 Necromancer.
 

Pyros

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Are they shaking up the classes with the patch?

Or will the old guides work?

Looking forward to get my Minion Cuckery fix in this game instead. Quite enjoyed the 1.0 Necromancer.
All the Sentinel shit is getting changed so all of that should be useless. They are doing a lot of balance changes to everything though, so old guides might not be relevant in terms of power either, you'll have to wait for patch notes basically.

There's 100% going to be a good minion build though, there were a lot of viable ones before and I assume they'll just buff anything that wasn't used much anyway.
 
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Aazrael

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All the Sentinel shit is getting changed so all of that should be useless. They are doing a lot of balance changes to everything though, so old guides might not be relevant in terms of power either, you'll have to wait for patch notes basically.

There's 100% going to be a good minion build though, there were a lot of viable ones before and I assume they'll just buff anything that wasn't used much anyway.
Thanks. Will probably buy a supporter pack as well. GGG need some good competition.

Any pricing info on them yet?
 

Pyros

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Thanks. Will probably buy a supporter pack as well. GGG need some good competition.

Any pricing info on them yet?
Likely same prices as current ones I'd guess? Checking the shop page it's 10, 20, 20 and 40 for the bigger one. No idea though they'll announce it eventually. Remember that at least unless they change it in this version, cosmetics only work for the online version. For some reason they made the decision of not having offline use cosmetics probably cause then they can get them for free by switching files, and I guess cheating free skins is worse than getting no money from offline players to begin with. Not sure what the logic is but it is what it is, although they said maybe it'll change.

The game's fun but it's also likely riddled with some issues. It'll be interesting to see how many of the old bugs from launch are still there when I check it out. I remember them being absolute shit at fixing bugs(or like they fixed a bunch every hotfix, but there were so many). I distinctly remember that a month after launch, I was still playing on 1.0 because in 1.0.1 or 1.0.2 or whatever they broke healthbars in offline mode, and it took forever to fix them. One of my favorite build also had a gamebreaking bug where the vfx would keep stacking over and over, until it would crash the game, so I could only play like 30mins at a time. And since it wasn't a popular skill, I'm not even sure if they ever fixed it(I reported it with a detailed report but they also didn't fix it or mention it in known issues at the time). The endgame was also kinda eh, but they did make improvements to that since launch so not sure how the current situation is.

It does have some fun aspects though and it's a nice change of pace, just can't really expect it's going to be the super PoE killer, it's not like this patch is going to fully rework the entire game to be entirely different and a lot of players already played this and then went back to PoE. Although PoE2 numbers might take a dive when they release.
 
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Khane

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I've been playing a bunch trying different skill setups to rush through 8/8 harbingers. The game still has plenty of issues and the online performance is still not good. And there is barely anyone playing online right now.

Just an FYI that if you're on the fence about online for trade or SSF the online performance is bad enough I'd go offline mode unless you really want to trade.
 

Vorph

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Sentinel getting reworked as a whole is kind of weird. Void Knight and Paladin were mostly fine, and better off than other classes (Lich, Shaman, Marksman, etc.). It's really just Forge Guard that was dogshit--and that's after one revamp already happened.

Edit: I do like the sound of the Volatile Reversal changes though. They're not wrong about the current skill being annoying as fuck to use, but also 100% required if you want to not suck.

Heartseeker, on the other hand, doesn't sound like something that will fix Marksman's problems at all.
 
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Vorph

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Is there anything coming in this new season that will fix the ungodly boredom associated with building up corruption? That's what always gets me to either reroll or quit entirely, I just can't force myself to do a retarded number of pointless maps that drop little/nothing of value to finally get corruption built up to a level where good stuff finally drops. In theory anyway. Even at super high corruption getting a LP4 drop of an item that's actually useful to a build is like finding a mirror in PoE.
 

Khane

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Is there anything coming in this new season that will fix the ungodly boredom associated with building up corruption? That's what always gets me to either reroll or quit entirely, I just can't force myself to do a retarded number of pointless maps that drop little/nothing of value to finally get corruption built up to a level where good stuff finally drops. In theory anyway. Even at super high corruption getting a LP4 drop of an item that's actually useful to a build is like finding a mirror in PoE.

Did you play in Harbingers? I didn't but have been playing a bunch recently and they already added a lot of "catch up" corruption mechanics.

Glyphs of Envy allow you to use the crafting bench to increase timeline stability to fight bosses for Gaze of Orobyss without having to complete echos.
Harbingers can drop Harbinger Needles which are 1x1 idols that, if equipped when you kill a timeline boss grant 3 Gaze of Orobyss.
If you build corruption up in one timeline when you go to another timeline you will get an Orobyss that gives you like ~80% of that previous timelines corruption upon defeating him and it will be revealed within like 2 echos.

They are also adding stuff for alts where corruption is account wide now and no longer character specific in this patch plus the new weaver stuff.

The endgame still needs work but they are improving it with target farming capabilities and such with this new weaver faction it looks like. However, for it to truly become a next gen ARPG they need to get rid of the false notion that procedurally generated, randomized encounters are what keep things interesting. It's the exact opposite and it still amazes me that developers don't look at every previous generation ARPG and how players chose to farm in all of them. Hint: players have always gravitated to whatever had the least amount of randomization and could be targeted for efficiency, in every ARPG since Diablo 2.
 
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Slaanesh69

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I've been playing a bunch trying different skill setups to rush through 8/8 harbingers. The game still has plenty of issues and the online performance is still not good. And there is barely anyone playing online right now.

Just an FYI that if you're on the fence about online for trade or SSF the online performance is bad enough I'd go offline mode unless you really want to trade.
My neighborhood internet is blazing speed but has regular dips that was intermittently causing me issues in PoE, but it is especially bad in LE when you lose your keys if you disconnect, or lose your monolith node with the unique dagger reward you were seeking for the last hour and now you have to reset the whole fucking monolith.

I note that my 100 autobomber I played forever ago was offline, while the build I am playing now is online. Definitely going offline on new cycle.