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zombiewizardhawk
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Sooooo, I tweaked my Vi jungle build a bit and after two games (one of them was 4v5 in enemy's favor for 20 minutes) my KDA is 25/7/28. Please try it out and give feedback.
Runes: Attack Speed Reds, Move Speed Quints, MR/Level Blues, Armor Yellows
Masteries: 9/21/0
Core Items: SotEL -> Frozen Mallet -> Boots2 (usually Tabi) -> Defensive CDR (Frozen Heart or Spirit Visage) -> Trinity/BC/More Tanky
Skills Order:
W at level 1
E at level 2
Q at level 3, then
R > W > Q > E
Buffing Vi's attack speed with runes and early points in W helps alot with jungle clearing and once you finish Frozen Mallet it pretty much makes your ganks inescapable. The 700 hp from mallet makes you tanky as hell and you pump out a ton of damage with just those two items. Might just be a lucky couple of games coinciding with test build, but I'm gonna keep doing it to find out.
Runes: Attack Speed Reds, Move Speed Quints, MR/Level Blues, Armor Yellows
Masteries: 9/21/0
Core Items: SotEL -> Frozen Mallet -> Boots2 (usually Tabi) -> Defensive CDR (Frozen Heart or Spirit Visage) -> Trinity/BC/More Tanky
Skills Order:
W at level 1
E at level 2
Q at level 3, then
R > W > Q > E
Buffing Vi's attack speed with runes and early points in W helps alot with jungle clearing and once you finish Frozen Mallet it pretty much makes your ganks inescapable. The 700 hp from mallet makes you tanky as hell and you pump out a ton of damage with just those two items. Might just be a lucky couple of games coinciding with test build, but I'm gonna keep doing it to find out.
Sidian
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I run the same runes and masteries as you but I absolute hate your build order and I dislike W max first.
I always go Ancient Golem > Boots1 > Bruta > Tabis > SV > Randuins (or vice versa depending on team). Early Bruta + SV gives me almost max CDR which is awesome. You always want Q maxed because it's your main gap closer / escape, plus allows you to travel around the jungle faster.
Also go W Q E Q Q R Q (then it changes here depending who I'm fighting against and how tanky/fed they are). If they are tankier I usually go W max, if it's more squishy targets I go E max. I do that because generally if they are tankier you are able to stay on them longer and be able to proc your W, if they are squishier targets they usually have more escapes and thus you have to rely on your R>Q>E burst (this is better for diving ADCs as well imo)
Either way, Frozen Mallet....nooooooooooooooooooooo. I absolutely hate that item. I don't think there is a single good champion that item is good on. >.<
I always go Ancient Golem > Boots1 > Bruta > Tabis > SV > Randuins (or vice versa depending on team). Early Bruta + SV gives me almost max CDR which is awesome. You always want Q maxed because it's your main gap closer / escape, plus allows you to travel around the jungle faster.
Also go W Q E Q Q R Q (then it changes here depending who I'm fighting against and how tanky/fed they are). If they are tankier I usually go W max, if it's more squishy targets I go E max. I do that because generally if they are tankier you are able to stay on them longer and be able to proc your W, if they are squishier targets they usually have more escapes and thus you have to rely on your R>Q>E burst (this is better for diving ADCs as well imo)
Either way, Frozen Mallet....nooooooooooooooooooooo. I absolutely hate that item. I don't think there is a single good champion that item is good on. >.<
Oblio
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Congrats!!!
Finally~ 1 more to go!
Their Oriana should open a restaurant, she sure likes to feed people.
Ravishing
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I run similar runes/masteries, and I typically max W first. Imo you farm faster and have more burst with W. I have tried maxing Q first, it is viable for sure, but imo you shouldn't need to worry about getting off multiple Q's... Either it's an escape or a gap closer and with Ult and Flash you have more escape+gap closing options.
I am dubious about the Froze Mallet purchase. The item is very gold inefficient, although the effect is rather OP so I can see how it might be ok but on Vi I just don't know. She can stick to targets pretty good already with her Q/Ult/Flash & usually having red buff.
As with most Vi builds, I do purchase the SotLE but then I go mostly tanky with maybe a brutalizer at some point.
So I basically do near same build as Sidian but same skill order as Tortfeasor
Brand
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People just don't know Taric top and think I'm a troll. Then I go 11 5 18 with him with First Blood. Girltheon tried to go toe to toe with me and lost. Twice. First two kills and it was all over.
I meant to ask earlier, has anyone seen a Mordekaiser with the new masteries in the same vein as Mundo? I'm curious if he's worth experimenting with.
ronne
Nǐ hǎo, yǒu jīn zi ma?
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He's not. He'll remain balls until they do something to him, as right now he is a losing lane vs like 80% of the cast. He'll eventually get a small tweak to shield generation or the health costs of abilities lowered some and he'll be playable again, but until then I wouldn't bother.
I use the same masteries as well, however I build straight tanky on her 90% of the time due to everybody else on my team usually being squishy. I hate frozen mallet. Also I am in favor of maxing E first so I run R>E>Q>W...that being said it really depends on the match. If I feel someone is getting tanky too fast and I need the extra points in W I will do so. I think the next time I play VI though I am going to go all damage and have a great laugh.
Sidian
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Not having spell vamp on Spectral Wraith really hurt Morde quite a bit considering that was one of his goto items. I actually wonder if more of a hybrid Gunblade + DFG + Full tank would be okay. Unfortunately he has no CC and can be kited for days so getting into melee range is pretty much impossible. :\
I was thinking of running him full defense top lane.
Face of the Mountain + Spirit Visage = 45 hp5
+ 20% health regen
+ 2 hp5 from Masteries
+ 3% hp hp5 (Assume 3k hps?, 30 hp5)
75 x 1.2 = 90 hp5
If you start Doran's Shield, that's another 10 hp5 that you sell later.
Then I would build like I build Taric: Iceborn Gauntlet, Zhonyas, Sunfire. Face of the Mountain's stats are perfect for Mord as a tank. CDR, Hp, hp5 and an extra shield. You're only missinging CC which could be replaced with a gunblade but it's not as good I guess. Maybe toss in a Rylais? shrug
Face of the Mountain + Spirit Visage = 45 hp5
+ 20% health regen
+ 2 hp5 from Masteries
+ 3% hp hp5 (Assume 3k hps?, 30 hp5)
75 x 1.2 = 90 hp5
If you start Doran's Shield, that's another 10 hp5 that you sell later.
Then I would build like I build Taric: Iceborn Gauntlet, Zhonyas, Sunfire. Face of the Mountain's stats are perfect for Mord as a tank. CDR, Hp, hp5 and an extra shield. You're only missinging CC which could be replaced with a gunblade but it's not as good I guess. Maybe toss in a Rylais? shrug
I was waiting for it.
Taric
Shatter ( W ) armor reduction coefficient reduced to .05 from .1 armor
Shatter ( W ) armor reduction reduced to 5/10/15/20/25 from 10/15/20/25/30
It's not actually terrible.
Taric
Shatter ( W ) armor reduction coefficient reduced to .05 from .1 armor
Shatter ( W ) armor reduction reduced to 5/10/15/20/25 from 10/15/20/25/30
It's not actually terrible.
Sidian
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Yeah, you knew it was coming. It's actually not that bad of a nerf imo. It honestly was just completely broken that he could shred that much armor in an AoE aura. Now instead of a 70 armor shred endgame it'll be more like a 40-50, which is still really strong considering it's a support with a heal, an AD aura and a stun, but at least it's better then nothing.