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Good shit man. I see you got Gold IV. We're like at the same MMR. I just got back to Gold IV last night. We're both hovering around 1430 MMR (Team MMR). Interesting! Zac+Diana duo could be deadly.
 

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The new Twisted Treeline is lots of fun now. Feel way more fluid now with the extra turret and being able to have a jungler again instead of that lame ass roaming support shit.
 

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You realize that when you screw up, some other dude at some other pc is making the same judgement about you right? That's how you deal with it.
There's a difference between an error in judgement and literally ignoring a scenario I specifically laid out and prepared for in advance. But keep acting like all shitheads are created equal. Dumb fucks just didn't want to leave lane, despite geographical advantage and zac passive making it an impossible to lose 4v2.
 

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You wanted your bot lane to roam mid at level 1? If I was bot lane I'd prefer my mid/jungler just not get into a lvl 1 fight in mid. The early levels are so important, even a 1 level disadvantage or 10-20 cs disadvantage will steamroll bot lane so hard. It would be a huge risk to leave lane and let opponent ADC free farm for that time.
 

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No, I told them since there was a shaco he was going to invade at 2, which he always does. I warded it, because it's entirely predictable. I pinged it as he was coming in. Both mids came, but bot, despite all the warnings, sat in lane and ignored the 30 second extended fight that went on and never reacted, despite me warning them in the lobby and prior to the initial leash at level 1. There is no excusing it. It wasn't a fight mid, it was a terrible, predictable shaco making an invade I knew 100% was coming and it turning out well for them because I can only tell my retarded bot lane to react and can't actually make them do so. All they have to do is literally walk into the jungle and we get two kills, and instead they sit in lane and mid and I both die. If you play bot lane it is 100% your responsibility to react to this invade. As a jungler all I can do is prep for it and react appropriately, if the lanes don't respond that's completely on them. So when they made the conscious decision not to react, I made the conscious decision they got to lose the game. Pretty simple.

It's literally the exact move every solo queue shaco makes every game since season 3. When you collapse on him and kill him he's useless from that point forward. I can't do any more to prepare my team for it than I did.
 
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Or you could have headed in to his jungle and stole from there if your botlane gave no indication they wanted to help during champ select or pre game. You seem to have very strong opinions about how the game has to be played. What Makes you right?

In that situation you can do a couple of things to counter the shaco.

Team collapse like you wanted too.

Counter invade which lets you avoid him and keeps your farm going. Or if he wasn't invading you can mess him up. Shaco is great at invading but if you invade him he isn't great at defending it.

Since your mid seemed to listen to you, it would have been easy to set an invade trap to catch their mid as he came to assist the invade. Which gives your mid a huge advantage.

Take a different route. Then shaco nuts is left staring at an empty camp and two minutes wasted.

A lot of your posts lately are about how much of a troll or retarded everyone else is. Where is your personal accountabiltiy?

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After jumping back a page my tone was probably too harsh. Grats on the winning streak with trying to adjust your attitude. However when bad shit happens it is pointless to dwell on what someone else could have done differently. Your skill and game knowledge will rise when you assess your own play to try and fix what happened.
 

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If the players are the reason why someone loses games, one has to realize that the most common player in all the games is himself.
 

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It's literally the exact move every solo queue shaco makes every game since season 3. When you collapse on him and kill him he's useless from that point forward. I can't do any more to prepare my team for it than I did.
Oh ok, that makes more sense. Yea, I would be frustrated as well and sometimes that's enough to tip me off in a game too. I do, however, try not to rely on my laners at all and against shaco players I ward and play defensive and take diff routes etc.

Since posting my diana win streak last page I won 3 more games and also got S+ finally with her.
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I love mindfucking opponent mids early game just to crush their hopes and dreams later. The Ahri bullied me hard early. I backed early a couple times and mindfucked her pretty hard. She thought I was sitting at turret and decided to freeze lane. I came back to lane with a slight item advantage (just magic mantle) but she only had dorans and I was full health/mana now and also taking reduced magic damage. Since she froze lane briefly I didn't lose out on much cs to turret.

She had to bail out of the lane early and I caught up & exceeded her cs and got her turret early. I then got blasting wand 1st and crushed her in a 1v1. After that lane was won and she tried roaming to make plays but I followed her non-stop. Eventually I got super-fed and the game was won. Still, the early mindfucking set me up to dominate.

Edit: Shit, not too confident this next game, Enemy team: Leona/Annie/J4/Vi/Lucian. CC hell. Fuck.
 

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Or you could have headed in to his jungle and stole from there if your botlane gave no indication they wanted to help during champ select or pre game. You seem to have very strong opinions about how the game has to be played. What Makes you right?

In that situation you can do a couple of things to counter the shaco.

Team collapse like you wanted too.

Counter invade which lets you avoid him and keeps your farm going. Or if he wasn't invading you can mess him up. Shaco is great at invading but if you invade him he isn't great at defending it.

Since your mid seemed to listen to you, it would have been easy to set an invade trap to catch their mid as he came to assist the invade. Which gives your mid a huge advantage.

Take a different route. Then shaco nuts is left staring at an empty camp and two minutes wasted.

A lot of your posts lately are about how much of a troll or retarded everyone else is. Where is your personal accountabiltiy?

Edit:

After jumping back a page my tone was probably too harsh. Grats on the winning streak with trying to adjust your attitude. However when bad shit happens it is pointless to dwell on what someone else could have done differently. Your skill and game knowledge will rise when you assess your own play to try and fix what happened.
It's not that you can't work around it, it's that the best work around is to collapse and murder him for doing something so blatantly obvious. So I, having faced this exact same invade approximately 943,000 times in the last three years, explained exactly what he was going to do and thought I had my idiot team ready to collapse, murder, etc. Except bot lane, without saying a word or pinging or anything, did not come when both mids did and even let their bot lane get there for the final hit on my mid. I've played a million games on Zac, I know how to deal with fucking shaco. He burns his ignite and other stupidity on me, I flash a wall and get up, and my collapsing team murders his face. Then I continue jungling and I'm two levels up on him the rest of the game. I have done literally this exact thing many, many times. So when I take the time to explain this to my team and they decide to sit in lane and consciously ignore the invade why would I do anything to work with those people for the rest of the match? I could give a fuck.

It's not that I don't understand the horseshit platitudes people spout off about solo queue(you are the only common thread, blah blah blah), it's just that in reality if you are close to your actual skill level and you are only making incremental improvements the random aspects of solo queue have a huge impact on the overall quality of your experience. I'm sitting here on 120 ping(I used to be 55 on the same ISP in season 2) playing Lee Sin blowing off steam. I'm not trying to refine my mechanics after 5 years. It's a shit experience full of shit people who do shit things. But that's LOL in a nutshell. There comes a point where you just accept that, and I stand by the fact that unless you are in try hard mode it's just a more enjoyable experience to fuck with the shitheads than it is to try and work with them. Could I have moved on and won that game? Maybe. But fucking them felt like the right thing to do, so I farmed my jungle for 20 minutes and let Shaco rape them. Even though it was a promo game for me the value of a hearty fuck you was far higher than getting promo'd then and there. Maybe some people can just ignore them and move on, but I find my way a lot more personally gratifying.
 

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Edit: Shit, not too confident this next game, Enemy team: Leona/Annie/J4/Vi/Lucian. CC hell. Fuck.
Won this game but it was hard. I basically got carried. Had 21 assists! I had 1 decent play early:

I was against Annie and I didn't respect her 0 item burst. I already shopped and came back to lane and was full health/mana. She got 6 before me but her stun was down for a moment. She goes in with Tibbers anyway (no stun) and I end up dying under turret after both of us use Flash. The highlight below is me returning to lane now 2 levels down but Annie still hasn't backed. I setup a classic noob trap, going for farm and trying not to threaten until the time is right. I could tell she would be greedy and not want to lose CS to turret.

After the next fight I decide to overstay too, yes I'm bad, but I was desperate to catch up in levels/cs.

Overstaying
 

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I wonder what its like to love playing one champ. That's why I suck at this game. II don'tplay often and its always different Champs.
 

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Just an outside program that records all your games, stats, everything related to you account. It also lets you use any skin you want and has jungle timers. Pretty sure the jungle timer thing makes it against the TOS. I dont really even use it much because I have LOLreplay now.
 

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SK is 0-5 this split.
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Guess they should have kept Forgiven and dumped nRated instead... who would have imaged.
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Just got S+ on Naut support. Helps the other team was full AD vs Malphite/Nautilus/Renekton, but still.

In my opinion any team that picks full AD should automatically kick everyone out of the queue.