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Enzee

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Voy's strength was assassins, specifically ap mobility assassins.
I agree, but I think that's also why he's good. Squishy glass cannons with high mobility require very good mechanics and quick thinking to play well. One wrong move and you did nothing for your team. A tanky guy has a little more room for error. They nerfed his best champs and he hasn't stayed ahead of the nerfs with picking up some new champs, sure. But, I personally think it's a combination of his team imploding at roughly the same as his favorite type of champs getting nerfed that's caused him to underperform lately. Momentum and confidence really play a big role in a team, and player's, performance. I could easily see him picking up a champ like Khazix to replace his akali (i can't remember if he's already good with khaz) and being able to play someone like a rumble or shen decently if given the time to learn them.
 

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Aatrox is still my best performance champ atm, not sure if that means he's OP or because he just suits my playstyle really well. I'm 14-5 with him 74% win rate. The 5 losses are a combination of bad luck and bad matchups.

1st loss was already mentioned, vs Annie with a jungle Naut who just dominated our whole team and the CC shut me down. (stun from annie + stun from naut + hook from naut = gg).

2nd loss was vs a Lissandra mid, I did fine, should have won the game except it was basically a 4v5 since our ADC was feeding all game... A vayne that went 4-13.

3rd loss we should have won except it was 4v5 because our jungler was lagging and sitting at fountain all game.

4th loss I lost top lane to a Jax. Jax is a tough match up for Aatrox imo. Jax does more damage than Aatrox can sustain through plus the counterstrike+leap means its tough to get away. Jax ended up carrying the other team to victory. My bad.

5th loss I was vs a Nasus which also was a tough matchup. Basically a farm lane. I didn't necessarily lose lane but my team had a 0-7 support and 0-9 jungle so basically lost this game due to feeding. I was never going to get far enough ahead to "carry" since Nasus isn't easy to kill as Aatrox, he shuts down your attack speed which shuts down your sustain. Definitely need rest of group to do better to pull through a victory.


Conclusion: I should be 16-3 (84% win rate) with Aatrox at worst if I wasn't hit with bad luck. So far I like him as a mid-lane better. I also faced a Teemo whom I destroyed. He was pretty bad too and started crying right away which went on all game long. Basically I'd bait his Blind, heal the damage back up then Q on his ass and go all out. Like I said, he was terrible wasting his blind all the time. I tend to initiate with Q when I know I won't need it for an escape.

I'm going to keep riding the OP Aatrox train to try and finally get out of Silver.

With regard to soloing baron: I tried Wriggle/BotRK/Spirit Visage and failed, but after adding a Zephyr I was able to solo him easily. The additional attack speed from Zephyr really helped a lot. I have been running attack speed runes to try and be able to solo baron without needing the Zephyr but I haven't had the chance to attempt it solo again. Normally a teammate helps. I've duo'd baron with a Shaco 1 game and Nunu another game using just BotRK and Spirit Visage at around the 25min mark.

Since Aatrox isn't so great with team fights I tend to push a lot like a Trynda/Singed would, although I do have a Quadra with him already, so he isn't always useless in team fights, obviously if you get fed or the enemy lacks cc you will do great, plus his passive keeps you going a bit longer than normal.

My current build (in varying order depending on how the game goes): BotRK/Ninja Tabi/Zephyr/Spirit Visage/(Hexdrinker if vs AP)/Randuins/(Wriggles if you want early baron). If I'm mid or vs AP top I'll rush Hexdrinker first with BotRK and Spirit Visage after. If I'm farming well, I'll get wriggle as 2nd item after BotRK to rush an early baron.


As an aside: I really hate the Aatrox model, if I wasn't 100% unlock I probably wouldnt even have bought him since he looks so stupid. His skin doesn't look much better either imo. Riot really dropped the ball here.
 

ronne

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His model/lore/everything are all pretty bad. Written by a 12 year old kid from the 90s. THE DARKENING BLADE OF BLOOD DARK VOID DARKNESS.
 

Draegan_sl

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So I'm just getting a little deeper in the LOL community and it seems like Viktor is potentially getting a rework because his tag got changed to Support. Now apparently this probably means absolutely nothing because "Test Servers" but I have to laugh at all the rage around the interwebs about people either screaming to leave Viktor alone or warning people to not play Viktor support because that would make you an asshole.

I find the vitriol hilarious in this game. It's even better than normal MMORPG class balance forums, but now there are 1000000 classes and specs. Ha Ha.

Might have to play Viktor just to troll people. He seems like an annoying character to play only because what the fuck is with having a passive that makes you pay 1000 gold?

As an aside, I hate playing Janna without a good initiator in Normals. I have a great time laning with my friend who is an ADC because we can communicate with each other. But I was playing a game where the "tank" never initiated. Fuck you. I spent like 20 minutes of just clicking around mid lane while the tank was trying to decide if the water was too cold or not. God damn.

Of course, Janna is fucking great when you're playing with at least a good ADC and tank/jungler/mid. It's fun to help control the battle field that way. But when your team is shit, the fact you do no damage and your control is not really taken advantage of, Janna becomes useless and boring to play.
 

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I like him aram for the most part and I've played some games as Viktor support and it almost works? Depending on the match up you can trade damage with his Q pretty well and his Gravity Field is very very good but the rest of him is bleh. Ever since they added Kha'Zix I've thought that they should revamp Viktor to use the exact same system for his upgrades.

And trying to use his laser sucks. It is one of the most effort for least reward skillshots in the game. I hate the thing.
 

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So I'm just getting a little deeper in the LOL community and it seems like Viktor is potentially getting a rework because his tag got changed to Support.
Viktor has been on the table for a rework for a while but mainly to revamp his passive item, I didn't think they were focusing too much on his other abilities. Not sure why his tag would be switched to support, he's still a pretty decent mid laner. I've been stuck with him in ARAM and managed to do quite well but the laser definitely takes some skill to master. The biggest issue people have with viktor is that his 6 item build is weaker/less flexible than other AP and his skillshot is tough to use.

Regarding Janna, she can do damage if you build her for it. Actually I just played against a Janna mid last night, although my team won, the Janna was probably the best player on enemy team. Zekent streams Janna top/mid all the time:http://www.twitch.tv/zekent. Here's Zekent doing a backdoor Janna:http://www.twitch.tv/zekent/c/2285316. Lichbane is great for chunking down turrets. I love this clip cause she absolutely dominates Draven multiple times lol. She does have a fully stacked Mejai's though which is damn rare to achieve in most games, hah.

So if you are still playing normals and you're stuck with some lame duck players, build offense and carry
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It's just a line nuke with average base damage and a .7 ratio. If you've gone with Augment Death than it's good stuff but I still say that the reward is out of line with the difficulty of use.

With Viktor the very first thing I would do would be increase the projectile return speed on his Q. Right now if you run up to harass you take a hit and they take a hit and then you get a shield after the exchange is over. It is a very lackluster ability and sets up Viktor to have basically two abilities he doesn't really care to level up. The augment for it is baller though.
 

Frenzied Wombat

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So I'm just getting a little deeper in the LOL community and it seems like Viktor is potentially getting a rework because his tag got changed to Support. Now apparently this probably means absolutely nothing because "Test Servers" but I have to laugh at all the rage around the interwebs about people either screaming to leave Viktor alone or warning people to not play Viktor support because that would make you an asshole.

I find the vitriol hilarious in this game. It's even better than normal MMORPG class balance forums, but now there are 1000000 classes and specs. Ha Ha.

Might have to play Viktor just to troll people. He seems like an annoying character to play only because what the fuck is with having a passive that makes you pay 1000 gold?

As an aside, I hate playing Janna without a good initiator in Normals. I have a great time laning with my friend who is an ADC because we can communicate with each other. But I was playing a game where the "tank" never initiated. Fuck you. I spent like 20 minutes of just clicking around mid lane while the tank was trying to decide if the water was too cold or not. God damn.

Of course, Janna is fucking great when you're playing with at least a good ADC and tank/jungler/mid. It's fun to help control the battle field that way. But when your team is shit, the fact you do no damage and your control is not really taken advantage of, Janna becomes useless and boring to play.
I actually main Viktor so feel free to ask me anything-- you can look up my match history with him on lolking if you want. Personally I think he's sleeper OP-- there's not a single champ that can dish as much AoE damage as Vik does come late game. He also has insane range and damage with his death ray. His biggest problems are a weak early game and the fact that you need to be pretty close range to land your Q and W and he's as squishy as hell. People seem to think he sucks because his passive takes a slot screwing you out of a 6th item, but personally I think that's a stupid argument. For one, early-mid game 1000 gold for death augment is hugely gold efficient. IF you do make it VERY late game where you could finally afford to replace it with something better is about the only point where it is a detriment, and I can count the number of games on a single hand that have made it that far. It's not a matter of "paying 1000 gold for his passive", it's about the opportunity of paying 1000 gold for an item that gives you 3 AP per level AND increases the damage of your E by 30%. There's no other item that is that gold efficient in the game.

Playing Vik well comes down to landing his death ray. If you can do this well you'll be a solid pick and rack up kills. Realizing that you can cast it while moving is essential and also a huge plus.

In lane you want to start leveling Q if facing someone aggressive that likes to trade, otherwise level Death Ray first. In any case, the idea is to get lvl 3 death ray or so along with augment: death and you'll be one shotting minion waves. Once you reach lvl 6 you can 100-0 pretty much any mid assuming you land your gravity field.

In team fights your job is to stay back until everyone engages then drop a Gravity field followed by your ult. If you landed both it's pretty much GG. His Ult cancels channeled abilities such as Kat, Fiddles, and Nunu;s ULTs, so keep this in mind as well. If you catch them in your gravity field AND drop your Ult on them they will literally melt.

My first few games with Vik I did horribly and fed, but once you get pro with his laser, learn to lead his W properly, and most of all realize your job is to hang back and do shit tons of damage, he is a very rewarding champ. A Vik with 550AP and death augment can two shot a squishie with just Q,E and his ULT will even make tanks scream.

Typical SR build: sorc boots, Athene's, death augment, deathcap, Rylais, void staff or hourglass
Typical Dominion build: Ring, sorc boots, death augment, blackfire torch, wooglets, Rylais, sell ring and get a lichbane

PS: If you're really good with his death ray get augment: death, however his W augment is also really good as 35% more range on your W no only helps you drop it in a more safe fashion, but in a better place as well. Never go Q augment-- it sucks. Vik is not some kite mage.
 

Draegan_sl

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Viktor has been on the table for a rework for a while but mainly to revamp his passive item, I didn't think they were focusing too much on his other abilities. Not sure why his tag would be switched to support, he's still a pretty decent mid laner. I've been stuck with him in ARAM and managed to do quite well but the laser definitely takes some skill to master. The biggest issue people have with viktor is that his 6 item build is weaker/less flexible than other AP and his skillshot is tough to use.

Regarding Janna, she can do damage if you build her for it. Actually I just played against a Janna mid last night, although my team won, the Janna was probably the best player on enemy team. Zekent streams Janna top/mid all the time:http://www.twitch.tv/zekent. Here's Zekent doing a backdoor Janna:http://www.twitch.tv/zekent/c/2285316. Lichbane is great for chunking down turrets. I love this clip cause she absolutely dominates Draven multiple times lol. She does have a fully stacked Mejai's though which is damn rare to achieve in most games, hah.

So if you are still playing normals and you're stuck with some lame duck players, build offense and carry
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That's pretty interesting, and kind of neat. Thanks for that link. I'm usually duoing with an ADC so by the time I learn the rest of the team is shit, I'm too far behind to get a decent item build.
 

EmiliaEQ_sl

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HotshotGG was doing an interview in which in came up and his arrogance certainly showed as you mentioned. He basically said jungle is easy as fuck and isn't mechanically demanding so will be easy for LP to pick up and that Nien will do well cause of his mechanics already being very good. We shall see how stuff plays out but I would really like to see Dlift go to a good team. I think if somebody like Curse picked up Dlift to replace that garbage that is Cop that would be a pretty terrifying bot lane to have Dlift/Edward.
He expressed himself poorly but basically it's correct, jungling (let's ignore Lee Sin) requires absolutely zero mechanical skills, and is easy as fuck, hell you are all alone 50% of the time....
It does however require insane star sense, map vision, internal clock and shot calling... (and yes he came out very arrogant)

DLift is amazing with a good team (look at the all star games), i always thought CLG's weakness was they had 1 threat... him ... and that's it.
 

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That's pretty interesting, and kind of neat. Thanks for that link. I'm usually duoing with an ADC so by the time I learn the rest of the team is shit, I'm too far behind to get a decent item build.
True, and you won't have the runes/masteries for offense probably, either. I also clarified it with saying "normals" since you might be running some basic runes/masteries (or none at all, depending on your level). It is easier to switch builds in normals under these circumstances.

Once you are in ranked you tend to get locked in to whatever role and can't just swap out as easily since now you have full rune/mastery pages and the games are a little more intense.

I also wanted to show that Janna is a fine champ and if you enjoy playing her you can easily try her mid or top lane.
 

Draegan_sl

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I very rarely play the game alone, but I think next time I do I might try some top laning Janna. I'm only level 11 so I don't have any runes. Not gonna bother until I can just buy Greaters.
 

GuardianX

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Holy shit, I am really hating players in this game ATM.

Been playing support mainly and watching people fight over lanes is ultimately killing my will to play. Instead of working as a team the team basically breaks down in champ select.

First pick? Cool! He actually queued with last pick, but don't worry he's trading mid from first pick to last pick. They got this bro, calm down!

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*They go on to attain a total score of 3-17-?*

"You all Suck SO hardcore you don't deserve to play the game!"

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I mean really, then after game I get reported (bad language? Never swore once...) for suggesting that they don't queue together (Silver 1 duo with bronze 4) since it could influence the team comp.

Next:

Support lulu, bronze 3 partner .. AGAIN a duo queue this time with top. Top lane (silver 1 AGAIN) loses first blood, then 2nd..3rd..all the way to 8th (death).

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18 minutes in..score is 6-16 - 6 outer mid inner down.

Bronze 3: "WTF Lulu yru not warding dragon"

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I WAS warding our jungle at that point, but that wasn't good enough. People were literally exploding in mid lane being fully pushed to their turret with health pools like 10% - 15% with an AP yi on the enemy team.

Translation: Really really REALLY stupid people, stupid decisions, ect.

This game should come with a free sit down with a therapist and masseuse.
 

Lenaldo

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The biggest issue I have with this game is the thought by people that only the support wards. If everyone took initiative and warded their own lane then they could survive 99% of thebganks from the jungle. But people have this crazy thought that one player on the team has to ward for everyone