Im not referring to close games. One time you didn't ward or went too aggro, didn't go aggro enough in a solo for instance could have been the difference between you drawing/losing your lane and stomping it so hard that your team ends up steamrolling. Instead of the enemy solo stomping your mid/top and giving that easy win to their team. A lot of "stomps" hinge on one or two plays from the 2 min to 15 min mark.
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Amzin
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If it's legitimately 50% of your games, then that means the other 50% are equally bad for the other team, so all you have to do is figure out where you can make improvements and go from there. There's tons of streamers, pro and not, that, as a streaming gimmick, go from bronze to plat or diamond , either doing A-Z or all support/top/jungle whatever, and they do it in a matter of weeks, in addition to all their normal shit. If you check the league reddit periodically you'll come across people posting about it too to get more viewers (although I think those got moved to a subreddit... I'm very new to reddit and don't know how that works). Not to mention that tons of games with feeders/trolls can be won anyway. I've won more 4v5's than I've lost (albeit barely), and won games where we had intentional feeders running revive/teleport as well. The enemy team is never perfect, exploit their weaknesses as they exploit your teams'.
If you just see the matchmaking as totally random and a roll of the die as to whether you win or not, just stop playing. It isn't, and never will be.
If you just see the matchmaking as totally random and a roll of the die as to whether you win or not, just stop playing. It isn't, and never will be.
GuardianX
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Holy fucking shit, the last 2 days...nothing but solid bads on my teams.
just got done with a game, we were doing AMAZING. I had 1 of the duo queue people (LOL A BRONZE 3) in my lane and I was performing badass as support and we were the best lane on our team, so good mid was pulled from their mid to try to stop us. SURE ENOUGH, the 2nd person in the duo calls top and goes top and does well for like 5-10 min then "gets a phone call" and afks the rest of the match.
FUCK.
THIS.
GAME.
just got done with a game, we were doing AMAZING. I had 1 of the duo queue people (LOL A BRONZE 3) in my lane and I was performing badass as support and we were the best lane on our team, so good mid was pulled from their mid to try to stop us. SURE ENOUGH, the 2nd person in the duo calls top and goes top and does well for like 5-10 min then "gets a phone call" and afks the rest of the match.
FUCK.
THIS.
GAME.
Mures
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No, but it might get you to stop making excuses as to why you are in bronze league. All the shit you're whining about happens to every other player, you are not the unluckiest lol player to have ever existed. I've only been playing this game a week and I can guarantee you could not hold your own in silver 1 / gold and I don't even have to watch you play. You know how I know? Because if you were meant to be there the fucking game would put you there stop making so many bs excuses as to why you suck.
Put it this way. I started the season in Bronze 4 and got in to silver within 50 games. Was closer to 40 if I remember correctly. I stomped and carried the vast majority of my games. On the flip side I spent 300+ games in Silver with the vast majority in silver 1. Some of that total is due to me taking a ton of multi week breaks from lol so coming back rusty and losing more then i should. But I can only attribute 75 or so games to that. So to me that means I was meant to stay in Silver because thats how good I was at this game. Some of it was I didn't stick to one or two roles, some of it is the fact that im weaker mechanically while being strong at game knowledge so I just can't play certain champs. However I was too stubborn to admit that so it cost me a lot of games. Anyway, if you spend more then 50 games in a bracket then you deserve to be there. Some part of your game is holding you back, and not some giant conspiracy to only put trolls in your games.
zombiewizardhawk
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What? I said 50% of my losses could be chalked up to those things. How does that automatically mean 50% of the teams I play against suffer from this issue? Is there some checks and balances system in the ranked queue that equally divides trolls between your team and opposing teams? Also, the roll of the die part comes in to play mostly when relating to the times that you get the tards. Get tards in 2 promo games? Cool, now you're back at 70LP and have to win 4 in a row to even get back in to your promo where you then have to go 2 out of 3 (hope you only get trolls once!).
I'm genuinely curious if any of you have played more than 5 games in bronze league or if it's all just the same "i'm better than you and you suck" drivel while never having experienced how abundant the trolls/bads (real bads) are down here.
zombiewizardhawk
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Oh, you've been trash talking this whole time and are probably up to level 14 now? Nice.
Vimeseh, sounds like you got lucky and didn't get the trolls during your promotions to me.
I just posted about my bronze experience in the post above yours Wizardhawk.
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No it was mostly me playing mid exclusively at the time and running a 8-1 KDA until I hit silver.
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No it was mostly me playing mid exclusively at the time and running a 8-1 KDA until I hit silver.
zombiewizardhawk
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Yes because being able to recite shit you hear on the forums makes you a master of game knowledge. Vim I saw that after I posted
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I also like how you act like you know what you're talking about when you say everybody deals with it. Others have already said the trolls thin out when you get to the higher leagues but you probably can't even play ranked yet.
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I also like how you act like you know what you're talking about when you say everybody deals with it. Others have already said the trolls thin out when you get to the higher leagues but you probably can't even play ranked yet.
ronne
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Just stop dude. If you're 150+ games in to ranked and still stuck in bronze someplace then you belong there, end of story. Someone said it earlier, but go dig up a stream of a plat/diamond player grinding out a new account, or someone with their pet build (ap trynd, warwick top, etc) going from bronze/silver to plat/diamond in 50something games. Those are good players and they rocket right out of bronze/silver with ease because of it.
But no, instead it's everyone else in bronze that is holding you back. If only every other player you get matched with wasn't so godawful/trollish you'd be gold no problem. Welcome to the attitude of almost everyone in bronze/silver.
But no, instead it's everyone else in bronze that is holding you back. If only every other player you get matched with wasn't so godawful/trollish you'd be gold no problem. Welcome to the attitude of almost everyone in bronze/silver.
Whoever I was responding to made a big edit which made my pre-edit look retarded. Stop all the edits..my god.
Mures
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Regardless, I don't have to be better than you to tell you that you evidently suck at this game and you don't have to take it as hard as you are apparantly taking it because without admitting to it you'll never get out of bronze league.
Shit like "I don't need to watch my own replays, I know what I'm doing.; I do it that way just because that is the way I do it.; and making 1,000,001 other excuses" are why you are in bronze league. We're trying to help you get out and you just have your fingers in your ears saying "lalala, i'm not listening, I'm going to continue doing the same thing and whine about it" Maybe if you're lucky you will get out of bronze league after 200-300 games with that mentality.
Shit like "I don't need to watch my own replays, I know what I'm doing.; I do it that way just because that is the way I do it.; and making 1,000,001 other excuses" are why you are in bronze league. We're trying to help you get out and you just have your fingers in your ears saying "lalala, i'm not listening, I'm going to continue doing the same thing and whine about it" Maybe if you're lucky you will get out of bronze league after 200-300 games with that mentality.
zombiewizardhawk
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Where have I claimed that I belong in diamond/challenger? Of course those players will have an easier time getting out of bronze than me. Not once have I said i'm on the road to diamond or that that's where I belong.
Recording one of my games now, our last pick was spamming the lobby the whole time about how he was going to troll since he had to support. Let's see what happens. He took Teemo btw.
Recording one of my games now, our last pick was spamming the lobby the whole time about how he was going to troll since he had to support. Let's see what happens. He took Teemo btw.
GuardianX
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Seriously.
I also want to comment on people saying, "Don't play more after consecutive losses, you will only play worse." This may be true of other people but for me it really isn't, I usually play the same (like wizardhawk said, sometimes a bad game).
here is my list from recent games played.
Game 1- Blitz support, ADC - Bronze 3 duoed with gold 5 top lane. Top lane DC's after 5-10 min due to a "phone call" comes back for nexus death.
Game 2- Top trynd, not all that familiar with it. got ganked a ton and tower dove twice. turned them both around for 1 for 1 on the 1st dive and 2 for 1 on the 2nd. Bot lane and jungle super feed (6+ deaths in the first 10 minutes, lane is lost mid gets stomped then they start stomping me every fight, CC's ect...
Game 3- Cho game, rofflestomped as top lane. TF mid lost super hard but was able to carry him and get him some kills which he promptly threw away ulting into 1v3's. Still won so don't care.
Game 4- Ahri VS zed midlane, fun matchup. Did REALLY well early game, singed was going "proxy" singed and mao decided to "go help" .. not sure if he knew what proxy meant. Took several towers because of his proxy but them getting a 2 for 0 every time mao went up there is what did it in for us. Zed became super fed because it eventually became a 3v2 top lane with no damage and just a kill lane.
Game 5- Kassadin VS Trynd and Ryze. Their team kept switching up lanes and jax was freaking out so every lane switch he would demand I stop what i was doing and go to the new lane. either way I was dominating trynd AND Ryze but jax...jax got shit on by both, every lane change he would get further and further behind to the point that trynd, ryze and myself were level 9 and he was level 6. Didn't help that nunu, an AMAZING jungler, was slow as shit and was level 4 when mid was level 6 (dinged level 4 in lane ON the gank from a minion).
Game 6- Top lane as cho. Quite possibly the worst diana I have ever seen, I came mid for a gank, landed rupture, she misses every one of her abilities. Meh shit happens...Quinn was the nail in the coffin though. Not sure if a duo queue or not but she, along with diana, couldn't land an ability to save their lives. Flip side, they couldn't dodge worth shit either.
Game 7- mid lane as a Kassadin VS an AP yi. Straight got outplayed this one against an AP yi mid. I need to learn to hold silence for the heal. W - R - E hit hit hit...repeat, Q on heal.
Game 8- Lulu Support. This game pissed me off, the player "QuantumRaiser" Queued with his buddy who is gold 5 who went ezreal mid. Ended up winning but holy shit the carried guy was a twat. Just an unbelievable asshole.
Game 9- Lulu support. After about 20 minutes, Xin declared the game to be a loss (went to 45~ min), his wish came true but the main reason for his anger. He was jumping into 2v5's and dying, did it several times. We would all be waiting at the tower for a baroned up team to storm us ready to CC and peel and ult and whatever and xin would run WAY ahead and engage in an obvious trap (right next to an unwarded bush) and just explode, usually baiting one other person along with him.
Game 10- Kassadin Mid. Top lane dies after facechecking a bush I told him to stand in to protect the jungle, he waits til 1:40 to comply...3 people kill him. He rage quits.
Game 2- Top trynd, not all that familiar with it. got ganked a ton and tower dove twice. turned them both around for 1 for 1 on the 1st dive and 2 for 1 on the 2nd. Bot lane and jungle super feed (6+ deaths in the first 10 minutes, lane is lost mid gets stomped then they start stomping me every fight, CC's ect...
Game 3- Cho game, rofflestomped as top lane. TF mid lost super hard but was able to carry him and get him some kills which he promptly threw away ulting into 1v3's. Still won so don't care.
Game 4- Ahri VS zed midlane, fun matchup. Did REALLY well early game, singed was going "proxy" singed and mao decided to "go help" .. not sure if he knew what proxy meant. Took several towers because of his proxy but them getting a 2 for 0 every time mao went up there is what did it in for us. Zed became super fed because it eventually became a 3v2 top lane with no damage and just a kill lane.
Game 5- Kassadin VS Trynd and Ryze. Their team kept switching up lanes and jax was freaking out so every lane switch he would demand I stop what i was doing and go to the new lane. either way I was dominating trynd AND Ryze but jax...jax got shit on by both, every lane change he would get further and further behind to the point that trynd, ryze and myself were level 9 and he was level 6. Didn't help that nunu, an AMAZING jungler, was slow as shit and was level 4 when mid was level 6 (dinged level 4 in lane ON the gank from a minion).
Game 6- Top lane as cho. Quite possibly the worst diana I have ever seen, I came mid for a gank, landed rupture, she misses every one of her abilities. Meh shit happens...Quinn was the nail in the coffin though. Not sure if a duo queue or not but she, along with diana, couldn't land an ability to save their lives. Flip side, they couldn't dodge worth shit either.
Game 7- mid lane as a Kassadin VS an AP yi. Straight got outplayed this one against an AP yi mid. I need to learn to hold silence for the heal. W - R - E hit hit hit...repeat, Q on heal.
Game 8- Lulu Support. This game pissed me off, the player "QuantumRaiser" Queued with his buddy who is gold 5 who went ezreal mid. Ended up winning but holy shit the carried guy was a twat. Just an unbelievable asshole.
Game 9- Lulu support. After about 20 minutes, Xin declared the game to be a loss (went to 45~ min), his wish came true but the main reason for his anger. He was jumping into 2v5's and dying, did it several times. We would all be waiting at the tower for a baroned up team to storm us ready to CC and peel and ult and whatever and xin would run WAY ahead and engage in an obvious trap (right next to an unwarded bush) and just explode, usually baiting one other person along with him.
Game 10- Kassadin Mid. Top lane dies after facechecking a bush I told him to stand in to protect the jungle, he waits til 1:40 to comply...3 people kill him. He rage quits.
Spoilered it because it is long and bulky. I'm really only posting this because I CAN evaluate my games and understand what I need to win. i need competent people who don't...AFK, rage quit or feed like a motherfucker even when given assistance. Honestly that is all.
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It's not all about player skill. Maybe, like your posting implies, you are simply terrible with other people and merely being on your team causes them to rage uncontrollably and that is the reason you lose more than you win. I have played since pre season one and the only time I have ever been in "bronze" tier is when ranked elo was a clean slate at 1200 when season one started. If you belong out of there then you will climb out of there by simply playing better than your opponents consistently.
Mures
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Missed this edit, but it ties into what I was going to say. One of the definitions of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. As other have said if you're in bronze over 100 games that is obviously where you are meant to be, understand you must be lacking fundamentals needed to put you into a higher league. So you should found out where your problems lie and try to fix them rather than just grind another 100 games so you can continue making the same mistakes that you are undoubtedly making every game. And I don't need first hand experience to be able to tell you that every single person to ever make their way through solo que bronze league in LoL has gone through the exact same shit you are in regards to teammates. Obviously it becomes less of an issue in silver/gold league. People that take the time and effort to actually get out of bronze league tend to care more.
zombiewizardhawk
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Part of the reason i'm in bronze is due to my duo play with my brother, part of it was coming back to 35 new heroes (aatrox was 36 when he came out) and having to figure out how to play with and against them, and i'm sure part was just me coming back after such an extended break.
Honestly i'll admit I suck at the game if you can link me some videos of gold/plat players carrying a team of bronze feeders/trolls. I'd also accept a series of youtube videos of someone who isn't a pro chronicling their journey out of bronze 4 or 5 and in to platinum in 50 or 60 games played.
Won my game, Teemo ended up deciding not to troll for whatever reason and we stomped the enemy team. I ended up 5/0/7 with Vlad top. Nobody on the team had more than 2 deaths other than the Teemo who went 9/7. No idea how to share the replay tho, gotta upload it to youtube?
Honestly i'll admit I suck at the game if you can link me some videos of gold/plat players carrying a team of bronze feeders/trolls. I'd also accept a series of youtube videos of someone who isn't a pro chronicling their journey out of bronze 4 or 5 and in to platinum in 50 or 60 games played.
Won my game, Teemo ended up deciding not to troll for whatever reason and we stomped the enemy team. I ended up 5/0/7 with Vlad top. Nobody on the team had more than 2 deaths other than the Teemo who went 9/7. No idea how to share the replay tho, gotta upload it to youtube?