League Of Legends

We've been without replays for years now. The single dumb kid over at lolreplay made a working replay system and you're telling me Riots infinite money and 1000 employees can't bang out a replay system? Come on now.

Ronne_sl said:

We've been without replays for years now. The single dumb kid over at lolreplay made a working replay system and you're telling me Riots infinite money and 1000 employees can't bang out a replay system? Come on now.

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Same thing with a spectator mode years ago, they started streaming their own tournaments and they hadn't made even a shitty spectator mode. They just added a 6th man which bugged the UI and shit. Pretty awful.

They had a functioning replay system on the PBE forever ago, that they removed because of reasons. It popped back up again with the 3.14 patch on there now, months later. Again, this is almost surely due to engine/platform/code issues. More than likely, how to not implode old replays every time a new patch hits (which is typically what breaks lolreplay for a while too).

It would be nice to know the breakdown of those employees. A lot surely work in event/PR capacity considering Riots heavy involvement in their own esport scene. Lots of people that just sit around and maintain the servers/DB, which is fine. An art team that really needs a revamp (So much splash art seems to get reworked by people on Reddit then later fixed or redone by Riot). Animators, 3d artists, the people who can actually code in abilities, lore people, coffee fetchers, more random PR people, player support, technical support, etc. I know all chew up a lot of resources. But even skins are getting released seemingly slower than they should be. Community poops out neat skin ideas daily, some of which get made into custom skins in a matter of weeks (new particles and all) by some random high school or college kid that's bored. Meanwhile we get meh visual updates THAT NERFED MY STEEL LEGION GAREN SKIN GODDAMNIT and like 1 new skin a month. It took Zyra how long to have a second skin? Vi? Zac? Zed? What about Steel Legion Xin/J4/Galio? What about more Battlecast? They have awesome established themes to build on, people giving them great ideas FOR FREE every day (bee keeper singed! I mean come on that's good), that literally build on existing assets.

Obviously the more technical problems are a priority and what I care about more, but it again raises the question... why is everything Riot does so slow?

It makes sense that as a game gets more and more popular that it slows down champ/skin releases. I wonder if League hit critical mass yet or if S4 will see the game grow more.

Over 32 million fans tuned into LoL Season 3 World Finals - onGamers

That's a lot of viewers. Also (unless korea bans gaming lol) one would think it should be even bigger since the Finals next year is being hosting in Korea.

League of Legends is honestly the first and only "esport" that I've felt was genuinely compelling to watch. Starcraft was interesting if you were really dedicated to the game, but there is just something about LoL which translates well to watching. The fact that it's a team-sport, the fact that players are controlling specific avatars the entire match, the fact that it's mainly action oriented, the fact that the map is omnipresent and pertinent information is clearly presented all add up to a game that is actually fun to watch.

I think some of LoL's success as an esport even over something like starcraft is you are dealing with 10 people in a game. It is a LOT easier to track what the hell is going on than something like starcraft where there is just crap going on everywhere and its a lot harder to get a feel for what is actually happening and its importance. I was at a real life get together of my guild mates many of whom have never seen/played lol before. Me and one other guy were watching the the world finals and before long we had like 15 people watching with us and all of them were getting into it because it is pretty easy for even a novice to have at least a reasonable clue of what is happening in LoL.

I never watched streams before, and never really ever watched youtube videos of people playing games unless it was a preview of a new game or I was watching a strat for a raid. I find myself watching pro streams just for the hell of it.

It's fun to watch and only becomes more enjoyable as you learn more about the game.

If I had more friends to watch with, I probably would have watched Worlds over some of the football playing that weekend no lie.

Lol ya. I have a few real life friends and we watched worlds on my 70inch TV streaming. From my laptop.. it was like the Superbowl with cheering beer wings.. wife thought we were all losers.. but we had fun..plus its a cchallenge staying up that late when u get old .

Hopefully bar stomps become at least slightly more common in the US. My friends and I have watched a few big tournaments together on tv (Dota 2, LoL, CS:GO) but going to a bar and drinking with a bunch of like minded people would be really fun.

Lenaldo_sl said:

Lol ya. I have a few real life friends and we watched worlds on my 70inch TV streaming. From my laptop.. it was like the Superbowl with cheering beer wings.. wife thought we were all losers.. but we had fun..plus its a cchallenge staying up that late when u get old

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Yeah I mean...I have enough semi-nerdy friends I could probably swing it....but not during football seasons. They need to change the dates!

I watched Worlds with my brother in law in the family room's big screen. It was pretty fun, bother of our wives thought we were giant nerds (as if they didn't know already).

So I'm playing some games with Ronne and this last one highlighted the problem I have with the amount of information players are able to acquire from websites before a game starts. I'm bottom and it's going fine and Ronne is eating paste mid. The entire game becomes about why did I duo queue with him. He's bad. Why do you play with him. At least tell him how to build Cho. He's terrible. You are going to kill your MMR playing with him. This repeats for 15 full minutes. We lose. Whatever.

Why are people allowed to know who queued with who before a game starts? And see their runes? And see their masteries? Either that information is something everyone is supposed to have and should be incorporated into the game or it should be information no one is allowed to have and excised from the internet.

I get that shit all the time too. For instance tonight I was queuing up with my silver real life buddy. I hate being first pick 100% of the time when I queue with him because honestly I'll just fill whatever role when I play with him because it's fun for me. Yet, 2 of the 4 games I played with him tonight it was the same thing. "GG, plat duoing with a silver, he shouldn't play here blah blah blah" Now honestly, he doesn't belong where it averages us out at but for the most part he doesn't do stupid plays, he just isn't mechanically up to par, yet to get trash talked all game does seem very annoying and won't help him at all.

But yeah, I ignore it most of the time. One game the top and mid were bitching (I was supporting my bud) and we were the only ones with kills on our team and we didn't have many deaths. I was like 0/3/3 and he was 3/1/1 or something, our mid was like 1/9 and our top was 0/6 or something like that. Yet they still had the nerve to call out the silver player.

That's another reason why when I play with my friend, I always tell people "gj" or shit like "you carried us,nice work!" even though I'm something crazy like 15/4 as TF. It gets their hopes up and makes them feel good about themselves and usually they will play better. It's amazing what one compliment will do to a person's self esteem and how much better they usually end up playing.

It mostly just amused me to have people question why a Silver I (me) was in their Plat IV promo My MMR has somewhat normalized as I gained ranks but still a little scary sometimes. I lean towards having this information just available to all the players all the time, but there's no chance of that happening until a major platform update. Especially with their current matchmaking focus being on the team builder.

Arbitrary_sl said:

So I'm playing some games with Ronne and this last one highlighted the problem I have with the amount of information players are able to acquire from websites before a game starts. I'm bottom and it's going fine and Ronne is eating paste mid. The entire game becomes about why did I duo queue with him. He's bad. Why do you play with him. At least tell him how to build Cho. He's terrible. You are going to kill your MMR playing with him. This repeats for 15 full minutes. We lose. Whatever.

Why are people allowed to know who queued with who before a game starts? And see their runes? And see their masteries? Either that information is something everyone is supposed to have and should be incorporated into the game or it should be information no one is allowed to have and excised from the internet.

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Even if they didn't check a website, I bet they could figure it out by your borders. Riot has stated though that they don't want situations like this to arise though so it's unclear what they'll do to fix the problem.

At some point you do have to accept that there is a limit on how much a company can do to combat the fact that the internet is filled with shitty, shitty people.

Looks like the preseason patch hits tonight. I like the new Mikel's crucible alot.
3.14 Patch Notes