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And now the sequel:

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Lol at all the "don't nerf!" whining. Reverting the retarded HP buff that AGS tacked on is hardly a nerf. The salt in this thread is unreal.





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For reference here, this choice was not only made in response to the forum thread – the team primarily looked at success rates of the content in the list before making this decision, some of which were extremely low (under 10%)
But as always, I will let the team know.
 
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Kirun

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Raes said:
And now the sequel:

Community Spaces | Lost Ark - Free to Play MMO Action RPG

forums.playlostark.com forums.playlostark.com

Lol at all the "don't nerf!" whining. Reverting the retarded HP buff that AGS tacked on is hardly a nerf. The salt in this thread is unreal.





Roxx
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For reference here, this choice was not only made in response to the forum thread – the team primarily looked at success rates of the content in the list before making this decision, some of which were extremely low (under 10%)
But as always, I will let the team know.
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Yeah, the Guardian shit is so fucking tedious. "Hard" is fine, but nobody wants to grind on one-shot mechanics for 25 minutes just to complete a "daily".

I'd rather they not nerf abyssals, but whatever. It's just the matchmaking/inability to block people not on your server. I'm fine with not getting a "success" for the day, but at least let me prevent grouping with the dipshit(s)that just can't get basic shit like, "it's a stagger check, use high stagger abilities". What's a stagger?! Deeeeederrrppp.
 
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Raes

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Yeah, the Guardian shit is so fucking tedious. "Hard" is fine, but nobody wants to grind on one-shot mechanics for 25 minutes just to complete a "daily".

I'd rather they not nerf abyssals, but whatever. It's just the matchmaking/inability to block people not on your server. I'm fine with not getting a "success" for the day, but at least let me prevent grouping with the dipshit(s)that just can't get basic shit like, "it's a stagger check, use high stagger abilities". What's a stagger?! Deeeeederrrppp.
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I just want the content to be the same as it is in other regions and for AGS to keep their smooth little brains out of it. I don't know why they are nerfing Abyssals, I assume it's based on the internal metrics. If they were buffed like Guardians, than I'm all for removing that buff. If that's not the case then it would just be Amazon once again thinking they know better.

All that crying and moaning for what is basically leveling content since we launched with T3. Imagine if Blizzard made an announcement that they were going to nerf some Legion dungeons or something. 240 posts and counting. 20+ while I typed this, lol.
 
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JFC Abyssals are so fucking cancer with matchmaking. I wish I didn't need the gear, because I'd rather just faceroll through potato content and get my pitty gold each week, rather than deal with the absolute fucking retards who play this game.
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yeah I can't even get Necromancer's Origin finished. Everytime I go, if someone asks if it's someone's first time I always say yes, otherwise I explain it, and we still can't finish it.
 
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Gravel

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Yeah, but easier on your alts. That's the main issue, not having tedious Guardian dailies on multiple alts.
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I feel like it's a good gatekeeper for t3 abyss and guardians though. It didn't sound like they were looking at that at all, which means now we're getting a bunch of people who couldn't hack it in a couple weeks.

I agree with your point that they should've just given us what Korea already has. I'm not sure why they had to tinker with it. And as you've said in the in-game chat, the welcome gold is ruining the economy.
 
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Gravel said:
I feel like it's a good gatekeeper for t3 abyss and guardians though. It didn't sound like they were looking at that at all, which means now we're getting a bunch of people who couldn't hack it in a couple weeks.
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Disagree. Guardians (and all other raid content) should be exactly as they are in KR/RU.
 
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Taking bets on how many weeks til we see this hit 1%.

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I wouldn’t mind the hp getting lowered on some of the guardians. I’m no where near a lot of you guys(546), but it took me a week to down Vertus because he just lives so gd long. It was a war of attrition and it was like no one knew they could refresh pots.

Pugging the first 4(2 I guess technically) abyssals hasn’t been easy, but I’ve managed.
 
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Amycus said:
I wouldn’t mind the hp getting lowered on some of the guardians. I’m no where near a lot of you guys(546), but it took me a week to down Vertus because he just lives so gd long. It was a war of attrition and it was like no one knew they could refresh pots.

Pugging the first 4(2 I guess technically) abyssals hasn’t been easy, but I’ve managed.
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That seems to be what Voldeth Voldeth and Raes Raes have been saying, is that they arbitrarily raised the HP a ton, and even if you know the mechanics, it's hard to be perfect for 15 minutes.

I can agree with lowering the HP.

The abyss dungeons however seem fine. With the exception being that last abyss in T1 where there's just way too many instawipe mechanics. I mentioned it a couple weeks ago, but we had a mixed group with two of us in tier 2 carrying, were on discord, knew the mechanics, and we still wiped probably more than a dozen times.
 
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That seems to be what Voldeth Voldeth and Raes Raes have been saying, is that they arbitrarily raised the HP a ton, and even if you know the mechanics, it's hard to be perfect for 15 minutes.

I can agree with lowering the HP.

The abyss dungeons however seem fine. With the exception being that last abyss in T1 where there's just way too many instawipe mechanics. I mentioned it a couple weeks ago, but we had a mixed group with two of us in tier 2 carrying, were on discord, knew the mechanics, and we still wiped probably more than a dozen times.
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That's a large part of the problem with all these raid minigames with 1-shot mechanics. The only reason they exist is in an attempt to prevent full carries. In T1 and T2 it's not as bad, but it's why the big late game raids are such a pain in the ass. It's Smilegate's balancing act of giving free players enough gold to feed the whales while trying to keep the whales from not needing to whale.
 
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The whiney no nerfs thread that had 240 replies is now over 700. This amount of tears over irrelevant content is insane. Oh, but they're also afraid the "nerfs" might "leak" into legion raids. LOL Fucking children.
 
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The whiney no nerfs thread that had 240 replies is now over 700. This amount of tears over irrelevant content is insane. Oh, but they're also afraid the "nerfs" might "leak" into legion raids. LOL Fucking children.
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"Hard content" is fine the first 2-3 times you beat it. It's fun, exciting, and leaves you with a sense of accomplishment. Doing shit like that as a "daily" task is no longer all those things.

Once I've beaten that shit a few times, I just want to chill and get through, especially if I now outgear it by a fucking mile. Then you expect that on alts too? Glad they're nerfing the fuck out of guardians.
 
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I hear this game speeds up like 100% in the t3 content not yet released, but in other regions. If this is true my old ass cant do this shit lol.
 
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I think they could revert the HP changes and the content would not be directly easier, but passively so. Nerfing mechanics in a long fight will just make the experience dull and "feel" like it lasts longer.

If anything, I would like to see research added to the stronghold for each guardian / Abyss raid you've fought in the previous tier that rewards your alts with +% DMG / +%DEF. Or just a blanket research - one for guardians and one for Abyss raids per tier. If theyre worried about some precious retard sperging out over MVP - adjust the formula to account for the DMG/DEF that those alts would bring. But its usually pretty cut and dry who is an alt and who isnt in a group. I cant remember the last time I didnt get MVP on my Sorcerer. Ive done those same Guardians across all my alts probably 30-40 times now and have gotten to the point Im just getting ballzy on them just so I can hope the boss dies quicker. Not out of a fear that we'll wipe, but "God damn this is the 6th time Ive killed this fucker today - JUST DIEEEEEEEEE"
 
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Daidraco said:
I think they could revert the HP changes and the content would not be directly easier, but passively so. Nerfing mechanics in a long fight will just make the experience dull and "feel" like it lasts longer.

If anything, I would like to see research added to the stronghold for each guardian / Abyss raid you've fought in the previous tier that rewards your alts with +% DMG / +%DEF. Or just a blanket research - one for guardians and one for Abyss raids per tier. If theyre worried about some precious retard sperging out over MVP - adjust the formula to account for the DMG/DEF that those alts would bring. But its usually pretty cut and dry who is an alt and who isnt in a group. I cant remember the last time I didnt get MVP on my Sorcerer. Ive done those same Guardians across all my alts probably 30-40 times now and have gotten to the point Im just getting ballzy on them just so I can hope the boss dies quicker. Not out of a fear that we'll wipe, but "God damn this is the 6th time Ive killed this fucker today - JUST DIEEEEEEEEE"
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Nerfing mechanics is dumb, but giving mobs 50% extra HP "just cause" is even more retarded. Guardians are fucking cancer to do.
 
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I mean, I'm at 1020 GS and still trying to do a fucking 580 Guardian raid with randos. Mechanics are avoided, but because you failed on the 300th time you have to avoid it due to inflated as fuck health pools, go fuck yourself! And I'm a Paladin, so I can't even really carry the fucking idiots through with my shit DPS.
 
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