Lost Ark Online

Del said:

Nobody is claiming that the population hasn't nosedived since release. Your claim is that it's nosediving recently because of Thaemine and your evidence is a chart that clearly shows a bot banwave. Derp. The only one with their head up their ass is you, you doomer nutjob.

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Ya a bot ban wave and yet I still see 40 fucking bots in town every time I log in lmao. You can legit see it with your own two worthless fucking eyes you complete moron. Less lobbies overall. Less people on islands. Less people on world boss. I mean they literally had to fucking merge servers multiple times recently. What the actual fuck is wrong with you holy shit lmao.

I agree with all that, but I'm not sure I'd revisit this one ever. Just thinking about having to do all that shit on my account again sounds like AIDS.

It was definitely fun for the time I played it though.

I can’t get back into this because when I login there are a million icons all over the screen and I have no idea what anything means.

Lumi said:

Ya a bot ban wave and yet I still see 40 fucking bots in town every time I log in lmao. You can legit see it with your own two worthless fucking eyes you complete moron. Less lobbies overall. Less people on islands. Less people on world boss. I mean they literally had to fucking merge servers multiple times recently. What the actual fuck is wrong with you holy shit lmao.

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I love how his defense essentially boils down to..

"Yeah, pop went down because this game has a fuckload of bots, not because of Thaemine!" - just lol.

The Paladin in this game is still, without a doubt, my favorite support I've ever played in an MMO. I also didn't even mind the "one-shot" style mechanics in a lot of areas other than the daily/weekly, non-raid shit. It's too bad this game was ruined with dogshit dailies, a fucking retarded amount of horizontal progression that makes getting back into the game so daunting most people don't bother, and the massive cash grab that was the AH.

Kirun said:

I love how his defense essentially boils down to..

"Yeah, pop went down because this game has a fuckload of bots, not because of Thaemine!" - just lol.

The Paladin in this game is still, without a doubt, my favorite support I've ever played in an MMO. I also didn't even mind the "one-shot" style mechanics in a lot of areas other than the daily/weekly, non-raid shit. It's too bad this game was ruined with dogshit dailies, a fucking retarded amount of horizontal progression that makes getting back into the game so daunting most people don't bother, and the massive cash grab that was the AH.

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I can't believe how retarded you two are. This game DOES have a lot of bots and they get culled every few months. That is generally where the big drop offs in players comes from. You actually believe that daily users just suddenly and spontaneously cut completely in half without some external force? Which other games has this happened without some completely asinine decision enacted by the devs? Thaemine had been out for over a month in that chart he posted. Tell me, what is it about Thaemine that suddenly made 50% of the user base quit 5-6 weeks after the raid being out?

My arguments are factual while Lumi's attacks are purely emotional and speculative. Anyone who is as angry as him at a game is the one who needs to examine what's wrong in his life. lol

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Muh nosedive.

This reflects exactly what I said.

Del said:

I can't believe how retarded you two are. This game DOES have a lot of bots and they get culled every few months. That is generally where the big drop offs in players comes from. You actually believe that daily users just suddenly and spontaneously cut completely in half without some external force? Which other games has this happened without some completely asinine decision enacted by the devs? Thaemine had been out for over a month in that chart he posted. Tell me, what is it about Thaemine that suddenly made 50% of the user base quit 5-6 weeks after the raid being out?

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Bruh you bring stupid to whole new levels. Why the fuck do you think they are merging servers now you complete fucking retard? NEWS FLASH, IT'S BECAUSE THE PLAYER BASE IS HEAVILY FADING. It's extremely fucking obvious what I am saying is true just by playing the god damn game. You can see it in literally every possible activity. You can even see it heavily reflected in the sentiment on reddit of people quitting and people talking about how their guild members are dropping like flies. It really is kind of sad how mentally ill and delusional you are. It's no wonder since you defend Star Citizen and I'm afraid to ask how much money you've lit on fire at that game lmao.

Server merges were announced like 6 months ago and happened before Thaemine you moron lmao. Now you're just backpedaling from your original sperg fit. The rest is just projection.

BoozeCube said:

Lost Ark was a cool game and honestly has a lot of stuff other MMORPGs should learn from, at the same time the gay ass FOMO reward style, cash grab stores, and 1 player fuck up insta wipe mechanics for both this and WoW are some of the worse design features ever.

I don’t know how the game has changed since I quit but if they ever bust out a new server launch I might give it a go again.

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The list of changes is way too long but your complaints are valid (minus the cash grab stores -- not sure I've used the cash shop for anything than cosmetics in a long time). I'm a broken record but someone like you (who enjoyed the raids/gameplay and wasn't a total retard) would get a lot of fun by running the content you've missed (Brel, Kayangel, Akkan, Ivory Tower normal, Thaemine normal). It would essentially be ~2 months of really fun MMO game play before the wall hit you but you're not dumb and would just quit rather than spending cash. A new server would be a terrible idea though, these crumble and are filled with people who are trying to create characters that will transfer to an OG server later on and make a lot of gold, resulting in a shit experience.

Gravel said:

I agree with all that, but I'm not sure I'd revisit this one ever. Just thinking about having to do all that shit on my account again sounds like AIDS.

It was definitely fun for the time I played it though.

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Almost all of the stuff you're thinking about would be handed to you for free within 15 minutes of logging in. The game put in the catch up mechanics for vertical content some time ago and it would probably place you further along than you were previously. It takes you to a point where you have everything and the only stuff to 're-do' is if you're trying to 100% continents in order to get 10% more purify proc chance.

Chersk said:

I can’t get back into this because when I login there are a million icons all over the screen and I have no idea what anything means.

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More than fair. It's an MMO with years worth of content and this applies to the genre as a whole once it reaches this point. Logging into WoW is similar. The only way to really do it is to either read/watch Youtube guides (the boring shit way), not give a fuck and be the retard player while you figure it out, or just ask in Discord. I recommend the latter.

Kirun said:

I love how his defense essentially boils down to..

"Yeah, pop went down because this game has a fuckload of bots, not because of Thaemine!" - just lol.

The Paladin in this game is still, without a doubt, my favorite support I've ever played in an MMO. I also didn't even mind the "one-shot" style mechanics in a lot of areas other than the daily/weekly, non-raid shit. It's too bad this game was ruined with dogshit dailies, a fucking retarded amount of horizontal progression that makes getting back into the game so daunting most people don't bother, and the massive cash grab that was the AH.

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Paladin was recently buffed and supports in Thaemine clear groups were the difference maker. The support classes as a whole are no longer about just maintaining brand and tossing a heal from time to time, they actually require the player to know the fight and use their CDs properly in order to support.

Pyros said:

I think once they get solo raids in I might give it a go at some point to just run through content. That's probably like 6months away though right? So won't be soon, but I'm thinking at some point in 2025 I'll probably give the game a whirl for a month or so.

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Road map will be released in July however 4-6 months is a fair estimate. We're getting Echidna this month and the content release cycle suggests we'll see Behemoth in August with the window for T4 & solo raids appearing starting as early as September (if you're hopeful), October/Nov (most likely) or December if you're a doomer.

On the population discussion: people have been talking about the game being dead for like a year and a half. I'm sitting next to an NPC for a daily quest right now (so not in a city) and there are 25 players around me with 5 channels of the zone up. Guardian queue times are <1 minute, cubes are instant and this is what the lobbies look like for Thaemine at 10:30 on a Monday (when 90% of the population has cleared and it's the least played day):



That stretches for quite a bit and most lobbys fill in 5-10 minutes. It's never going to have a million players (it never did) and bot ban waves represent a huge drop in steam charts because, surprise, a Korean MMO has a lot of bots. That doesn't mean that the population is struggling or that the game is dying, it has a really healthy population and the game is active with content updates that occur every month, a new raid that gets released every 2-3 months, and a new continent every 4-6 months. Unless you're a retard who has to play the most popular MMO, I'm not sure why you'd give a shit about this.

We already pretty much knew but Echidna & Northern Kurzan confirmed for June 19th.

Voldeth said:

That stretches for quite a bit and most lobbys fill in 5-10 minutes. It's never going to have a million players (it never did) and bot ban waves represent a huge drop in steam charts because, surprise, a Korean MMO has a lot of bots. That doesn't mean that the population is struggling or that the game is dying, it has a really healthy population and the game is active with content updates that occur every month, a new raid that gets released every 2-3 months, and a new continent every 4-6 months. Unless you're a retard who has to play the most popular MMO, I'm not sure why you'd give a shit about this.

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I think a lot of people wanted to like this game, myself included.

The game does not have a healthy enough population to warrant someone trying to have a fun time going through the game.

A large part of the community is elitist and 1%'ers, their bot army, and then the RMT bot army to support the whales.

If you try to play the game and dont have 3 accounts full of toons and able to run endless content on your 10+ toons, there isnt really any progression content left for the casuals. The people that are left still playing the game have run the content hundreds, if not thousands of times, and have no patience to teach casuals as it slows them down and hinders progression.

Hell, just look at this thread now. Its basically only 3-4 posters talking to themselves.

I remember pre-USA launch you kinda talked down about the game and talked about not playing, as you had already experienced the Korean / Russian version. Then launch came and you had 2 level 50s before most people could get through the que. You posted somewhere back your playtime and talked about the 3 accounts full of toons, and it came out to be about 14-16 hr a day, per day, everyday, for a year solid.

This is not a knock on your playstyle, more so saying that you are out of touch with a majority of the playerbases experience. The game may be healthy and engaging from your point of view, but for a majority of the playerbase, its a different experience all together.

Tide27 said:

I think a lot of people wanted to like this game, myself included.

The game does not have a healthy enough population to warrant someone trying to have a fun time going through the game.

A large part of the community is elitist and 1%'ers, their bot army, and then the RMT bot army to support the whales.

If you try to play the game and dont have 3 accounts full of toons and able to run endless content on your 10+ toons, there isnt really any progression content left for the casuals. The people that are left still playing the game have run the content hundreds, if not thousands of times, and have no patience to teach casuals as it slows them down and hinders progression.

Hell, just look at this thread now. Its basically only 3-4 posters talking to themselves.

I remember pre-USA launch you kinda talked down about the game and talked about not playing, as you had already experienced the Korean / Russian version. Then launch came and you had 2 level 50s before most people could get through the que. You posted somewhere back your playtime and talked about the 3 accounts full of toons, and it came out to be about 14-16 hr a day, per day, everyday, for a year solid.

This is not a knock on your playstyle, more so saying that you are out of touch with a majority of the playerbases experience. The game may be healthy and engaging from your point of view, but for a majority of the playerbase, its a different experience all together.

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I don't consider your response a knock at all and it's a legitimate perspective even if I disagree about some points, specifically;

1) The knock on the elitist 1%er of the community is fair. The community is filled with gatekeepers who only want to play with similar neckbeards and will deny people from lobbies. This is true and I'd be an idiot to say the contrary. The issue I take with this is that it only really impacts people if they're trying to keep up with these people and don't have a static of their own.

2) One of our regular static members is the definition of casual: he plays about 10 hours a week. He has one character that's 1630 and able to run the content at release with us. He has a second character that reached 1620 recently as a result of the power pass. His roster level is low and he only recently got LoS30. All of his gold/materials from his other alts (which are all ~1540-1580) goes to his main. This is possible in the game today but was not possible at launch, which is where a lot of people got their impressions of the game from. There are others that come play with us from time to time who have quit off and on and are nowhere near the end game. My point here is that it is possible to play the game in a more casual sense provided you're not an anti-social idiot.

3) On my playstyle specifically, I'll never be an example of someone whose pace can be followed. I have significantly more free time, income, & flexibility for video games than most and understand that this alters my perspective on things quite a bit. You'll note though that when I tell certain people to come play (Booze as an example above) I specifically state that he should come play to enjoy the content for a few months using the catch up mechanics that are available for the content that he would not get gatekept for (I was very specific and never brought up getting to Thaemine Hard or even Ivory Tower Hard, which would be where gatekeeping would occur without a static) and instead indicated he would stop when he would reach that point. That's the difference that I suppose I disagree with, albeit I understand that most people hate it: I'm okay if MMOs have content for players who invest more time/money and only apply for the 1% which casuals will only be able to play later on, traditionally after significant nerfs. In WoW, this is Mythic raiding and pushing high mythic keys (the gatekeeping here is done through raider.io), In Rift, this was something like Akylios where a casual stood no chance at clearing until many nerfs/months later, the examples in the genre go on & on. That's likely why I enjoy LA as much as I do because it caters to my playstyle / enjoyment but it seems to cater to enough folks to maintain a healthy population for an MMO!

Tide27 said:

I think a lot of people wanted to like this game, myself included.

The game does not have a healthy enough population to warrant someone trying to have a fun time going through the game.

A large part of the community is elitist and 1%'ers, their bot army, and then the RMT bot army to support the whales.

If you try to play the game and dont have 3 accounts full of toons and able to run endless content on your 10+ toons, there isnt really any progression content left for the casuals. The people that are left still playing the game have run the content hundreds, if not thousands of times, and have no patience to teach casuals as it slows them down and hinders progression.

Hell, just look at this thread now. Its basically only 3-4 posters talking to themselves.

I remember pre-USA launch you kinda talked down about the game and talked about not playing, as you had already experienced the Korean / Russian version. Then launch came and you had 2 level 50s before most people could get through the que. You posted somewhere back your playtime and talked about the 3 accounts full of toons, and it came out to be about 14-16 hr a day, per day, everyday, for a year solid.

This is not a knock on your playstyle, more so saying that you are out of touch with a majority of the playerbases experience. The game may be healthy and engaging from your point of view, but for a majority of the playerbase, its a different experience all together.

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Being one of the casuals who quit a while back, I've nothing bad to say about the game. The bot thing was kind of ugly, but truthfully it didn't really effect the game experience that much. It just looked weird seeing them do their thing. Especially in the lower level zones.

I left partially because the endgame grind back then was a little repetitive, which is true of most mmos. But the main reason I left is there were just too many cool new games and expansions out then and wanted to try them. So once the endgame grind kicked in, it didn't take long before I was playing those other games. Do wish the earlier content hadn't been trivialized so much. Exploring the zones was a lot of fun but you are funneled to the dailies and those are just not as engaging. Again, kind of true for most mmos.

Lost Ark is a great game, and if there wasn't so much competition for my time, would probably still be playing it. I'm sure I'll be going back eventually.

Summer gifts on June 19th, June patch also includes balance patch (Paladin buff & Evo Scouter buffs, Breaker nerf, etc) as well as the contest emotes. New contest for creating a Echinda loading screen.

Endgame Evolution - September​

The next evolution and stage of Lost Ark’s endgame arrives in the form of Tier 4

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Malakriss said:

Team Update - 2024 Summer Roadmap Changes

We’re excited to share a roadmap update with new content arriving in July, September, and later this year in 2024, with new raids, activities, adventures, and Tier 4, the next evolution of Lost Ark’s endgame.

www.playlostark.com

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Came to post this. Not sure why they waited to post the roadmap, it's the exact same as RU and it's a lot quicker than most people imagined (September for Tier 4).

Pyros July for solo raids!

Judging by dates listed in game the patches are likely to be

July 17 - Event end date
August 21 - Duration of Event items expire
September ?
October 23 - Processed quality taps from Calendar expire

I've not played in over a year? Would the catch up game keep me busy for a good solid 2 months?