Lost Ark Online

Malakriss said:

I would categorize the Ignite situation as a side experiment Express-in-a-box rather than a separate server. Transfer bonus is fixed and you get a 1620 char out of it, but you can't extra Roster farm for gold and resources. High floor with a ceiling that is barely above the floor.

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An existing player gets a free 1620 boosted character and 200k gold with the ability to enter T4 immediately.

A new/returning player gets to play Lost Ark without any P2W (shop is disabled), pressure in raids (normal/solo only), and if they enjoy it they'll be brought to T4 where they get to make a choice on if they want to continue (likely not).

For everyone, it's a week or two of fun seeing Lost Ark for what it could have been. I think they nailed this even if it won't return too many folks by virtue of how poorly LA is viewed in the West.

BoozeCube said:

I don’t think it’s viewed that negatively, more than it isn’t even viewed at all. This shit has been written off by most as a dead p2w failed mmo. You don’t recover from that especially with zero advertising.

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I think we're both basically saying the same thing. It will never recover from what people perceive it to be (perhaps rightfully so) even if that perception is absolutely wrong. People ask me all the time how much I spend on the game and don't believe me when I say that I haven't spent any cash on the game in over a year. Meanwhile with these passes, someone like you who returned less than two months ago will be able to have 4 characters in T4 at release and I'm pretty confident you're not spending any cash either. There are a lot of things to fault Lost Ark on (hi2u cards, too many systems, etc) but the stuff that people actually fault it for are objectively false.

The server should remain as a server if they really wanted this to be a spring board. In either scenario where you hit 1620 in two weeks or it takes the full seven you transfer over and everything left behind poofs. So you jump through the hoops at the pacing they set up but once you cross the threshold the value past that line massively nosedives. That's why i view it as an experimental Express this isn't trying to build up communities and guilds for a brand new server it literally has a ticking clock before it explodes.

Malakriss said:

The server should remain as a server if they really wanted this to be a spring board. In either scenario where you hit 1620 in two weeks or it takes the full seven you transfer over and everything left behind poofs. So you jump through the hoops at the pacing they set up but once you cross the threshold the value past that line massively nosedives. That's why i view it as an experimental Express this isn't trying to build up communities and guilds for a brand new server it literally has a ticking clock before it explodes.

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They semi tried this last time and saw that the drop off after a few weeks was massive resulting in a mostly dead server. I favor LOS 30 being given out with T4 for free and agree that the transitional gatekeep will occur but I don't think the solution of trying to keep the server self-sustaining is a viable one

BoozeCube said:

As for the ignite shit I am tempted to make an artist, soul reaper, slayer, or breaker if anyone has any feedback.

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I had missed this. Slayer is in a bad spot for T4, albeit are still pretty godly in T3. Reaper is considered a fun class by most and in a good spot however there's a lot of stereotypes against them. Breaker (especially BK Breaker) is king in T4 and a lot of fun. I'll be rolling a Paladin on igniter so If you're up for it rolling Breaker would be a great combo. Artist is also a good choice for self sustaining.

I've received limited interest but we'll be running Igniter raids to teach any new (or returning) FoH players interested in Lost Ark on the Ignite server this Saturday at 8PM EST. We'll have 3 veteran players there to teach and walk through the raids. In addition, I'll be in Discord all day on Wednesday & Thursday for T4 launch to answer any questions and help anyone on the Ignite server.

As a reminder for details people might skim past on Wednesday.. LOS24 will become a thing (7+4+4) as well as removing the 18 tripod limit for classes who aren't graced with single rank options.

Voldeth said:

I think we're both basically saying the same thing. It will never recover from what people perceive it to be (perhaps rightfully so) even if that perception is absolutely wrong. People ask me all the time how much I spend on the game and don't believe me when I say that I haven't spent any cash on the game in over a year. Meanwhile with these passes, someone like you who returned less than two months ago will be able to have 4 characters in T4 at release and I'm pretty confident you're not spending any cash either. There are a lot of things to fault Lost Ark on (hi2u cards, too many systems, etc) but the stuff that people actually fault it for are objectively false.

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If I am remembering correctly, you had at least 3 accounts, spent 5,000+ hrs playing, havent missed a day since launch, and admitted to spending a considerable amount of money fairly on in the games life cycle.

For those of us that didnt have an insane amount of free time enough to level 18 chars to cap and spend every instant running raids with 18 toons for the practice , many people felt gate kept out.

The elitism and toxicity of people that had unlimited amount of time to play, also drove people away. Didnt play Russia / Korea? Didnt know the mechanics of a new boss less than a week in game?...well fuck you, your booted from a raid.

The nonstop botting was out of control. If you were a new player that logged in, you saw a fucking army of bots running from waypoint to waypoint leveling up. After a month or so after launch, if you logged in the game for the first time, you were met with OAUEWRE, ASOUFUDF, and ASWQEREFC running scrips by the 100s per zone. It was fucking retarded.

Now, if you find like minded players like yourself and have a tiny static group with unlimited time to play, I am sure this game is a fucking blast.

This perception will never go away. Lost Ark could have been fucking amazing for more than the 500 real life people and 20k bots that now play.

If I was a casual with only 3-5 hours to play a week or if I hadn't found friends in this game to play with I would've quit a long time ago, but most of those problems you listed either don't exist anymore (in some cases never did) or you've vastly overblown them.

For example, I'm convinced that the only real advantage to playing a full roster of 6 characters is to get more reps in on raid bosses so that you aren't complete ass at them. The vast majority of the extra gold you make from them you generally just end up putting back into those characters and if you don't, you deserve to get gatekept.

I see prog lobbies for every raid while searching for raids very often. Nobody gate keeps those. And most lobbies on the first week a raid is released are prog lobbies and people in my experience have always been quite forgiving of mistakes.

There is elitism and toxicity in this game, but I'm not sure what games don't have that. Even dad guilds in WoW classic were toxic to shitty players.

I also almost never see bots anymore. Maybe it's because of where I spend my time at in the game, but they seriously don't ever bother me. There was a pretty big problem with gold inflation because of them in the past, but that seems to have mostly died down now.

I am not discounting your experience or perception of the game now, but what I posted was the reality for many months at launch.

Very few games get a 2nd chance to make a first impression.

The game may be in a good state currently, but 95% of the player base has moved on by now.

Maybe if they released a slower progression server with all the fixes and no bots, people might give it another shot...I don't know.

Patch notes won't be out until the twitch Aegir raid stream starts (2pm ET) and they might even wait until after.

Hyper Awakening confirmed. They're streaming Aegir right now:

Downtime will begin on October 9 at 12 a.m. PT (7 a.m. UTC) and is expected to last 15 hours.
No mention of other Expresses, Path, or honing boosts to existing characters. Only the Ignite server.

Yoz's Jar Season 3 Event Exchange​

An event exchange has been added to support Yoz’s Jar Season 3, details for which can be found below in the Store section of the release notes. When opening Jars to create a skin, players either receive a Legendary Skin or an Epic Skin and 10 Bonus Tickets. The tickets can be exchanged at the event exchange for a variety of bonus rewards, including Trail Effects, Cards, Card XP, or Amethyst Shards. The event will run until further notice.

BoozeCube said:

I know Vold is excited but any returning players even with a free 1620 can’t even sniff this content. Lost Ark doesn’t know how to retain players.

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This is wrong though. The entry level for normal is 1660 which anyone with a 1620 character presently can reach even if they had zero gold. We're talking hones at 10% base chance. I'll have seven characters able to do it without trying very hard.

Malakriss said:

Downtime will begin on October 9 at 12 a.m. PT (7 a.m. UTC) and is expected to last 15 hours.
No mention of other Expresses, Path, or honing boosts to existing characters. Only the Ignite server.

Arkesia Ignited Release Notes

The Arkesia Ignited Update heralds the beginning of a new age for new and veteran players alike.

www.playlostark.com

Yoz's Jar Season 3 Event Exchange​

An event exchange has been added to support Yoz’s Jar Season 3, details for which can be found below in the Store section of the release notes. When opening Jars to create a skin, players either receive a Legendary Skin or an Epic Skin and 10 Bonus Tickets. The tickets can be exchanged at the event exchange for a variety of bonus rewards, including Trail Effects, Cards, Card XP, or Amethyst Shards. The event will run until further notice.

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15 hours is crazy unfortunate.

Kenuart Fortress is a new dungeon that you can challenge alone or in a 4-player party. It requires Item Level 1620, and can be entered any number of times! Kenuart Fortress lets you earn Tier 4 Relic equipment, ensuring a smooth transition. The first time you defeat a boss in Kenuart Fortress each day, you’re guaranteed to get a Tier 4 gear selection chest; additional chests can be earned as drops.

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KR had 3 / day limit hoping for random drops, this seems to imply you can run it as much as possible to get the full set day 1.

Malakriss said:

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KR had 3 / day limit hoping for random drops, this seems to imply you can run it as much as possible to get the full set day 1.

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This is HUGE