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Jive Turkey

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If I'm not mistaken, the cousin did say to the detectives something about seeing body parts. But I'll even give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that detail was suggested by them. That still doesn't explain her original comments to her counselor. The blood under the concrete seems to line up pretty well with what his mom said
 

Adebisi

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Adebisi

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Oh right. Fassbender and and Wiegert. Well we know how they roll.

Sorry you got schlonged.
 

Jive Turkey

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Oh right. Fassbender and and Wiegert. Well we know how they roll.

Sorry you got schlonged.
But now you're claiming that they had a hand in getting his mom to say he cleaned the garage and got bleach on his pants? Come on. Or that the counselor was lead to make that statement? I'm more than happy to get schlonged, as long as it's a legit schlonging
 

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But now you're claiming that they had a hand in getting his mom to say he cleaned the garage and got bleach on his pants? Come on. Or that the counselor was lead to make that statement? I'm more than happy to get schlonged, as long as it's a legit schlonging
You don't seem like the type to be particular about the schlongs youre taking.
 

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But now you're claiming that they had a hand in getting his mom to say he cleaned the garage and got bleach on his pants? Come on. Or that the counselor was lead to make that statement? I'm more than happy to get schlonged, as long as it's a legit schlonging
Nice straw man, bro.

Just take your schlonging like a man
 

Jive Turkey

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Nice straw man, bro.

Just take your schlonging like a man
Straw man?? What are you even talking about? This part of the story still lines up with what the counselor said and what the mom said. Or were you still referencing the cousin's statement to police?... If I've gone full retard one way, a whole bunch of you guys have gone full retard in the complete opposite direction and are refusing to acknowledge certain details of the story.

The counselor said she mentioned moving a body and blood coming up from the concrete.
The mother mentioned cleaning the concrete and getting bleach on his pants.

Is this not an incredible coincidence?
 

Cad

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The problem with police corruption is that they are often the exclusive investigators of the facts of a situation. So we are arguing the facts of a situation when we have no idea which facts are true, and which ones aren't. When the police don't even make a token effort to stay impartial (letting Lenk and Colburn help with the search.. wtf) you can't believe a fucking thing they say/do.

From the documentary, it looks like the Averys were completely removed from the salvage yard for 8 days while the search took place. I'm not really aware of any reason they were allowed to do this. I've never been there when a search warrant was executed, but I've been there shortly after, and the cops allowed me to walk around and just told me not to interfere with the search. Anybody know on what basis they removed them from their homes for 8 days?
 

Chanur

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I am guessing because they did an unusual 18+ searches and they are corrupt assholes?
 

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I am guessing because they did an unusual 18+ searches and they are corrupt assholes?
Well, obviously but I'm wondering if there's any legal justification. Particularly with the timing of the "finds" and allowing the Manitowac County guys in there, I don't know how the judge allowed all that shit to fly...
 

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Yeah the whole thing is insane. I am guessing because the judge is buddies with someone from the department and or DA office. It's really borderline criminal at least.
 

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Not a legal person but ya know, I've watched a lot of law and order and shit so question for you guys who maybe are legal types:

Once Special Prosecutor fuckface get's busted for rape/sexual assault/harassment/prosecutorial misconduct, shouldn't like all of the cases he has ever worked get reviewed? He was basically fired for corruption. Ok maybe that's just how it works on TV and not IRL, but even still. How the fuck does he still have an opinion on anything and why is anyone interviewing him and posting "his side" of the story on the internet? Why the fuck isn't he in prison? Using force/threats/coercion for sex is fucking rape. Even by old timey non-faggoty pc standards that's still rape. I know he has been crying about getting harassed/threats, which he certainly deserves.
 

Jive Turkey

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Any of you troglodytes sending anonymous messages want to actually refute anything I've specifically said? did I upset the guild?
 

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Jive. Like most here, I am no lawyer. But here's the stupidity around all of your shit that you don't seem to see. The discussion here is circling around the absurdity of this case. In all aspects of said absurdity. Whether or not SA committed this crime is basically insignificant compared tohow fucked up the case itself was handled.

And yet you constantly regurgitate circumstantial "evidence" that proves fucking nothing and more importantly adds nothing to the discussion. I'll just leave it at that since you apparently can't hear yourself talk.

I'll add that cleaning up a shitty trailer so thoroughly after brutally murdering and raping someone that no physical evidence was discovered by multiple searches from forensic teams is outright absurd. If you honestly believe that's a possibility you're stupid. Either SA is an idiot savant when it comes to turning a trailer into an Operating Room while still having it full of shit or their forensic teams are the pinnacles of incompetence.
 

Chanur

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How do you disagree with someone that is making their own connections? The sky is not purple no matter what you assume. I like that you assume some evidence was planted but this other evidence here is really compelling! You cannot trust any "evidence" that was collected by this corrupt department and its affiliates.
 

Jive Turkey

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This is what I was talking about earlier. You can still discuss the fact that Averymighthave actually done it. It's another layer to the story. Yes, I'm completely aware that the case is absurd... but why does the discussion have to stop there? If he did it, yet some evidence was planted, why can't we discuss evidence that doesn'tseemlike it was planted? Why can some of the conversations between some of the playersbeforethe investigators got involved that seem like pretty strange coincidences not be discussed? Afterall, if I think he did it, I better have a fucking reason why other than 'just because'. Whether Avery did it is insignificant?? No, it isn't. You clowns are the ones who just want to regurgitate what you watched and not add anything to the discussion. And worse yet, you seem to be totally cool with people who think he might've done it, just as long as they don't say why they might think that. Then you have dickholes like popsiclewhatshisface who refutes what I say with crazy 'the cops did it' lunacy, but when I call him on it, he says 'I was just hypothesizing in response to what you said. I don't actually believe that'. So apparently he's allowed to make hypotheses about it (ones he doesn't have the balls to defend) as long as it points to Avery being innocent. You guys aren't interested in actual discussion. And I seem to have whipped you up into a sweaty, frothy mess because of it
 

Jive Turkey

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How do you disagree with someone that is making their own connections? The sky is not purple no matter what you assume. I like that you assume some evidence was planted but this other evidence here is really compelling! You cannot trust any "evidence" that was collected by this corrupt department and its affiliates.
Read the 'connections' I made and tell me what is so absurd.
 

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He said she said "connections" don't mean shit.

Most reasonable people have a hard time believing that you can clean something so thoroughly (after hacking someone to death) as to leave no physical trace behind. Especially by a retard on a crime supposedly committed on a whim. Just read up on what is involved in professional crime scene cleanup with people using built to purpose setups. Then come back and tell me a retard in overalls and some bleach accomplished that.

Uh huh.