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greetings my big dicked comrades. i, too, am cursed with this affliction of the colossal penis.
 
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It really is a tragedy having all this penis. It would really and truly be better to have a tiny micropenis like the rest of you. My greatest dream is to make love to a car exhaust pipe but my cursed girthiness won't let me fit!!!!
 
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BrutulTM_sl said:
It really is a tragedy having all this penis. It would really and truly be better to have a tiny micropenis like the rest of you. My greatest dream is to make love to a car exhaust pipe but my cursed girthiness won't let me fit!!!!
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it is very good for mobility and exercise.
 
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Tanoomba_sl said:
*sigh*
(Takes deep breath)
Buckle your seat belts, kids.

How many times is this going to come up? No, seriously. I'm male, I have no reason to lie about being male, but most importantly: It makes no fucking difference whether or not I'm male. There are two reasons to "call me out" as a female:
1) As an insult. "You have a vagina! Ha ha ha!"
2) To imply that my opinion would somehow be less valid if I was a female.
Both these reasons are asinine and do nothing but express the ignorance of the speaker.

Also, holy shit. You rant and rave about the pressure on males to live up to certain male stereotypes and claim that this is to accommodate female expectations when it suits them, then you become the shining example of the male reinforcing said pressure onto other males. What girl are you trying to impress by telling them I'm not man enough? There are none here, so how is this pressure anything other than a guy just being a dick to another guy? If this pressure from females is a real problem, why are you reinforcing it and making it worse?
It doesn't bother me when people make "mangina" comments. Why should it? I feel no pressure to live up to some arbitrary definition of "manliness" and that's fine. Every woman I've ever met (and every man for that matter) has somehow been fine with that too. This pressure on males by females seems to exist primarily within your head as a way to villainize those you believe are holding you back, even while you're in the most privileged group of humans ever to exist in the history of the human race.



Or, apparently, when other guys think he's a pussy. Hundreds of examples of that on this very board. How about you find me some examples of needing to "man up" to suit the needs of a female imperative? If you do, I'll bet it's exactly what feminism is trying to eliminate, since that is their entire fucking point after all. Still, according to you the people trying to fix unfair demands being put on people based on gender are somehow responsible for said pressure. Somehow.



No, no, sweetie. In this case, my "attempt" to point to a lack of "manhood" is an intentional parallel being drawn to highlight the hypocrisy of challenging someone's manhood while simultaneously exhibiting supposedly un-manly behavior (whining about consequences of real-world actions, playing the victim, blaming others for one's problems). What, men who display the EXACT SAME BEHAVIOR they strongly criticize in feminists should get a free pass because they beat their chests and yell in a deeper voice? Gimme a fucking break.
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This post completely exemplifies why I think you'reactuallya she.

Women do not lack a capacity to sympathize with male hardship or pain, but they absolutely lack the capacity toempathizewith uniquely male experiences. While I have no doubt that many women may have experienced the pain of a broken bone, or the hardships of life, they've never experienced those hardships as a man, and therefore cannotempathizewith that experience. Similar to how they are constantly ramming it down men's throats that we couldn't ever possibly empathize with the pains of child birth, the painful cramps during a menstrual cycle, etc. Now, extrapolate that to other aspects of a man's life, or his idealizations about how he would want a woman to love him, behave, etc.

You constantly see the termempathyreplace the termsympathywhen used by women. As if their feminine character uniquely transcends merely sorrow or compassion for someone in pain, but becomes somehow equitable withfeelingthat person's pain. Women convince themselves that their sympathy is really empathy, and their innate self-absorption only serves to further protect them from even having the curiosity to attempt real empathy towards men.

This fallacy of feminine-specific empathy is rooted in the "nurturer" myth attributed to the feminine, as well as the "mysticism" of females. If women are the "unknowable" forces of nature that the feminine imperative constantly batters into social consciousness, it isn't too far of a leap to accept that the "mythical" feminine intuition might also stretch to them literally experiencing the pain of others, in an almost "mystical" fashion.

It all makes for a good tale, but it hardly stands up against the, "men are such big babies when it comes to pain!" trope, or does it? If women are granted the authority to define whatreallyhurts and what doesn't for men, due to a socially presumed ownership of empathy - then this puts them into better control of which men can best qualify for their feminine needs/desires. In essence, women own the selective-mating game if they can convince men that they know, by literal experience, what really hurts a man and what doesn't, or whatshouldn't.

Furthermore, women believe that they are the only authority and irrefutable judges of anything that has to do with personal relationships. They have, and continue to control the language of anything relationship. Just look at the comment threads of any relationship article/blog/Facebook post. Every female response is written from a position of authority. The same women who can't convey anything informative in other contexts, can wax poetic about relationship by-laws, etiquette, formalities and how it'smen'sduty to comply with their reality. We are socialized to presume that social dynamics shouldalwaysdefault to a feminine imperative. In essence everyone, male or female,shouldagree with any social dynamic that benefits the feminine. Without even an afterthought, you are cast into what would benefit a feminine mindset and a female ideal. To the feminine mind(of both women and feminized men)this is just the way the world is.

In order to effect this reality, men must be convinced of a degree of more control than the feminine imperative exerts. They must believe that it is they who are the masters of a reality defined by the feminine, while remaining dependent upon the systems that the feminine reality outlines for them. So they are told they are kings, brutes, savages, intellectuals, anything that might convince them that the reality they exist in is privileged(check your male privilege!). This all encourages the default presumption of "victimhood" for the feminine.

The irony of the feminine reality, is that men should be accused of patriarchy/misogyny, while enabling the very framework of the feminine imperative. The feminine sexual strategy works so well, because even under the contrived notion of male "oppression", it's still ultimately female goals agreed upon as the "correct" effort. Satisfying the feminine imperative - achieving the goals of the feminine sexual strategy is still the normative condition. Men's goals are aberrant/deviant, women's are seraphic.

Tanoomba, realize that your perceptions are based in this reality. You're "correct" because your beliefs line up with what the framework of your reality has reinforced in you as correct. Any other frame of reference is either totally foreign to you, or evil, immoral, misogynistic, etc.



The relevant part of the video starts at around 30s.

The "system" of a feminized world is all around us. You see it from the original topic of this thread, the dating "advice" that women give out, down to the media that we consume. Game of Thrones recently had a glaring example of the female imperative and its numerous double-standards. A couple weeks ago, Jaime Lannister "rapes" his sister Cercei. Twitter, Facebook, blogs, etc. were "outraged" over this. Many females were threatening to quit watching the show, completely ignoring that the "rape" part of the scene was just one of many disturbing aspects of that scene, amongst characters that have committed murder, attempted murder, treason, incest, etc. Yet, women and feminized men everywhere lashed out at the "rape", women's solipsistic nature allowed them toperceivethe scene as some sort of misogynistic "slight" the show's creators had deliberately put into the show.

Now, contrast that scene to a scene from last season, where a male character is tortured in unimaginable circumstances, even to the point of getting his penis cut off. How did the show treat this situation? Well, so far, they've already joked about the topic(within the show)twice. Yet, nary a peep from women and feminists/"equalists" on this topic. Nobody threatened to quit watching the show, boycott the writers, or anything else. Instead, most probably had a slight chuckle any time the show injected a joke about the topic.

khalid_sl said:
If you act like a manly man enough on the internets you'll get laid... right?
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Oh, I forgot that's what this is about, especially with the myriad of females amongst this community.
 
Tanoomba

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I can't decide what's more funny, Kir, the fact that you can speak so authoritatively completely out of your ass, or the fact that you genuinely seem to believe men have less power than women do in modern society. All right, let's get this over with...

(Spoilered for length, unlike my penis which would be spoilered for girth)
Kirun_sl said:
This post completely exemplifies why I think you'reactuallya she.
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And this exemplifies why you're a fucking moron. In fact, if your knowledge of gender issues is so supposedly expansive and yet you can be wrong about the gender of a male poster on a nearly exclusively male-dominated massage board, perhaps you're not the authority you think you are. Your gender stereotypes have failed you right off the bat, and I'm supposed to take anything you say after this point seriously? If only there were a group of people dedicated to eradicating these stereotypes... Oh wait, there is just such a group!


Kirun_sl said:
Women do not lack a capacity to sympathize with male hardship or pain, but they absolutely lack the capacity toempathizewith uniquely male experiences. While I have no doubt that many women may have experienced the pain of a broken bone, or the hardships of life, they've never experienced those hardships as a man, and therefore cannotempathizewith that experience. Similar to how they are constantly ramming it down men's throats that we couldn't ever possibly empathize with the pains of child birth, the painful cramps during a menstrual cycle, etc. Now, extrapolate that to other aspects of a man's life, or his idealizations about how he would want a woman to love him, behave, etc.
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So women don't understand men and men don't understand women. Thanks for that completely pointless tidbit. Let's go one step further: No one can truly empathize with anyone else, since every person is living a unique experience specific to them and only them. Or, conversely, since we are all human, we are all capable of empathy to some degree, even to those of differing backgrounds, ages, ethnicities, genders, etc. See how pointless this can be? Not that it helped your point any way (and I'm being nice here, acting as though you had a point).

Kirun_sl said:
You constantly see the termempathyreplace the termsympathywhen used by women. As if their feminine character uniquely transcends merely sorrow or compassion for someone in pain, but becomes somehow equitable withfeelingthat person's pain. Women convince themselves that their sympathy is really empathy, and their innate self-absorption only serves to further protect them from even having the curiosity to attempt real empathy towards men.
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So says Kirun, authority on female thought processes. If you were trying to say that women actually generally empathize more than men do I would be tempted to agree, while simultaneously acknowledging that generalizations in general do more to hurt us as a whole. But this whole "Women are so self-absorbed they don't eventryto understand men" crock is pathetic. Not because you're a man, mind you, but because it's pathetic to trivialize the thoughts and feelings of half the world's population because you think they're out to get you.

Kirun_sl said:
This fallacy of feminine-specific empathy is rooted in the "nurturer" myth attributed to the feminine, as well as the "mysticism" of females. If women are the "unknowable" forces of nature that the feminine imperative constantly batters into social consciousness, it isn't too far of a leap to accept that the "mythical" feminine intuition might also stretch to them literally experiencing the pain of others, in an almost "mystical" fashion.
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This "examination" of feminine-specific "empathy" contains the putrid scent of the "rectum" from which it was pulled. Not because the myth of females as nurturers doesn't exist, but because there exists a group of people actively working towards eliminating this myth. Can you guess who? The answer...may surprise you.

Kirun_sl said:
It all makes for a good tale, but it hardly stands up against the, "men are such big babies when it comes to pain!" trope, or does it? If women are granted the authority to define whatreallyhurts and what doesn't for men, due to a socially presumed ownership of empathy ? then this puts them into better control of which men can best qualify for their feminine needs/desires. In essence, women own the selective-mating game if they can convince men that they know, by literal experience, what really hurts a man and what doesn't, or whatshouldn't.
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What is this? What the fuck are you hypothesizing? "If women are granted the authority"... really? This is textbook MRA paranoia. "Them wimmins gon' take over and us men gon' be empty shells. Empty shells, hear?" When women actually have more global power than men do, which is to say that they are behind the most important political decisions and control most of the world's money, you'd be entirely right in complaining about their power. But when you speak from a position of privilege (Yes, I saidprivilege, ten billion snarky comments from assholes doesn't change the fact that men have greater privileges than women) and complain aboutsupposedprivileges those below you have that you're not happy about, it comes across as pathetic. Luckily, people are working towards trying to stabilize privilege across genders. Who are those people again?

Kirun_sl said:
Furthermore, women believe that they are the only authority and irrefutable judges of anything that has to do with personal relationships. They have, and continue to control the language of anything relationship. Just look at the comment threads of any relationship article/blog/Facebook post. Every female response is written from a position of authority. The same women who can't convey anything informative in other contexts, can wax poetic about relationship by-laws, etiquette, formalities and how it'smen'sduty to comply with their reality. We are socialized to presume that social dynamics shouldalwaysdefault to a feminine imperative. In essence everyone, male or female,shouldagree with any social dynamic that benefits the feminine. Without even an afterthought, you are cast into what would benefit a feminine mindset and a female ideal. To the feminine mind(of both women and feminized men)this is just the way the world is.
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Yeah, or, you know, maybe more women frequent dating advice web sites, for the love of Christ. How the fuck many arguments about guns or PC specs or fucking JET PARTS have taken place on this board between men speaking from positions of authority? Actually, fuck that, if I want to draw a clearer parallel with your "point", how many times have you heard guys here talk about what they think makes a real woman? We are socialized to presume that a woman should shave her privates because anything less is disgusting, that a woman who doesn't fuck at least X times a week is a waste of time and energy, that a woman has a responsibility to maintain a certain body shape lest she be discarded, etc. Guess what, darling? Just as guys will be guys and say guy shit that doesn't help us overcome gender inequality, girls will be girls and do the same thing. Are you pretending girl shit (not feminist by any stretch of the imagination, by the way) somehow has greater power to dictate societal norms thateveryonehas to follow?Really?Check again who has the money and power and get back to me on that one.

Kirun_sl said:
In order to effect this reality, men must be convinced of a degree of more control than the feminine imperative exerts. They must believe that it is they who are the masters of a reality defined by the feminine, while remaining dependent upon the systems that the feminine reality outlines for them. So they are told they are kings, brutes, savages, intellectuals, anything that might convince them that the reality they exist in is privileged(check your male privilege!). This all encourages the default presumption of "victimhood" for the feminine.
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Wait a second. We can not possibly progress any further until something is clarified. Do you not understand that women suffer from inherent disadvantages that men do not? Patriarchy, like privilege, is a word that's been distorted so often and with such gleeful mockery (by those who benefit from it, primarily) that we're supposed to believe these are made up concepts created to serve the "power to the females" objective. But see, this is retarded. I'm not saying men don't have problems and I'm not saying that women are modern-day slaves, but to pretend that we're on a level playing field is dangerously ignorant. What you're doing is playing with stereotypes in order to portray men as the victims and say "See? it goes both ways". This is like a rich guy telling a poor guy "Dude, do you have any idea how much I have to pay in income taxes? It's ridiculous! You, on the other hand, don't have to pay shit!"

Kirun_sl said:
The irony of the feminine reality, is that men should be accused of patriarchy/misogyny, while enabling the very framework of the feminine imperative. The feminine sexual strategy works so well, because even under the contrived notion of male "oppression", it?s still ultimately female goals agreed upon as the "correct" effort. Satisfying the feminine imperative - achieving the goals of the feminine sexual strategy is still the normative condition. Men's goals are aberrant/deviant, women's are seraphic.
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I feel like if I put this into Google translate, switch it to French, then to German, then back to English, we might get a corking good souffl? recipe. In any case, that would make more sense than whatever the fuck you just wrote.

Kirun_sl said:
Tanoomba, realize that your perceptions are based in this reality. You're "correct" because your beliefs line up with what the framework of your reality has reinforced in you as correct. Any other frame of reference is either totally foreign to you, or evil, immoral, misogynistic, etc.
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Ah, the old "Thiswhat you think reality is, butthisis how realityreallyis" argument. When condescension and stupidity have a baby, it is this argument. Work some Illuminati references in there and maybe you can get your own show on Fox.

Kirun_sl said:
The "system" of a feminized world is all around us. You see it from the original topic of this thread, the dating "advice" that women give out, down to the media that we consume. Game of Thrones recently had a glaring example of the female imperative and its numerous double-standards. A couple weeks ago, Jaime Lannister "rapes" his sister Cercei. Twitter, Facebook, blogs, etc. were "outraged" over this. Many females were threatening to quit watching the show, completely ignoring that the "rape" part of the scene was just one of many disturbing aspects of that scene, amongst characters that have committed murder, attempted murder, treason, incest, etc. Yet, women and feminized men everywhere lashed out at the "rape", women's solipsistic nature allowed them toperceivethe scene as some sort of misogynistic "slight" the show's creators had deliberately put into the show.

Now, contrast that scene to a scene from last season, where a male character is tortured in unimaginable circumstances, even to the point of getting his penis cut off. How did the show treat this situation? Well, so far, they've already joked about the topic(within the show)twice. Yet, nary a peep from women and feminists/"equalists" on this topic. Nobody threatened to quit watching the show, boycott the writers, or anything else. Instead, most probably had a slight chuckle any time the show injected a joke about the topic.
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I don't watch Game of Thrones (not until it gets to Netflix, anyway), but I could give two shits what people find offensive. If you're trying to say that violence towards females provokes outrage while violence towards males is considered acceptable, well hey! You just made a great point. Congratulations on your first. You know who else hates shit like that? You know who can't stand that kind of double standard? I'll let you think about it a while.

On a side note, with the exception of your repeated pointless jabs at my gender, you seem surprisingly capable of having a reasonable conversation. You proofread your shit and try to abstain from immature insults. Kudos for that. Still an idiot, though.
 
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