Man Kills Drunk Driver Who Killed His Kids - Your Take

The article mentioned he had the same kind of ammo that was used in the shooting, but it didn't mention whether he did or did not have a gun of that caliber registered in his name, which I thought was a very strange omission.

Good question.

Gavinmad_sl said:

The article mentioned he had the same kind of ammo that was used in the shooting, but it didn't mention whether he did or did not have a gun of that caliber registered in his name, which I thought was a very strange omission.

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Those aren't records that are supposed to be kept... not sure if serious?

Gun registration is not a Federal law, except in cases of stuff like machine guns, but state-by-state. Texas does not require registration. So it was omitted because 1.) No gun and 2.) They have no way of knowing if he does in fact own a gun of that caliber outside of him telling them he does, which he does not have to do. Fifth amendment.

Most states do not have registration. When the cops find a gun or recover one they go back to the maker of the gun and go from there, the distributor etc...till they end up at the FFL who sold it and did the paperwork. Then they can find the owner from that info assuming it hasn't been sold second hand since it was purchased new.

When you purchase a new gun from a FFL you fill out a form 4473 to do a background check. By LAW these are supposed to be destroyed within 24 hours. When Ashcroft became AG he found that they were stockpiling the 4473's ot not destroying them and he ordered them destroyed to follow the law.

Chanur_sl said:

Some states don't even have a waiting period which shocked me. I moved and bought a hand gun in my new state and took it home right away.

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Why shocked? You fill out form 4473 and they do an instant background check, no problems you go home with your gun. Lots of states don't require it period. Unless you get a federal hold when they do the federal check and then if it doens't come back clear in X days you get it regardless.

In this state you show your concealed carry card and they don't even require a background check because it was done when you got the card.

A large number of states don't require it.

Gun Show Background Checks State Laws

I guess the gun register thing is either because I've watched too much Castle, or because Castle is set in New York.

Or both.

I have two little girls. The burden of proof required for me to convict this guy would have had to have been CCTV. Anything short of that and I'm accepting the flimsiest story as to demonstrate reasonable doubt.

Cad_sl said:

The DA's work pretty closely with the cops, if the cops just "couldn't find" the gun due to planned incompetence because they didn't want to charge him, they just wouldn't have charged him.

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Yes, I know that from watching Law and Order. How do you explain the fact that they charged him with so little to win with then?

The Ancient_sl said:

Yes, I know that from watching Law and Order. How do you explain the fact that they charged him with so little to win with then?

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Any case that gets publicity is going to be brought to trial even if the DA knows they have no chance of winning. If that seems ridiculous to you, I agree. I'm sure we can all think of a certain case in the recent past that rally exemplifies this.

How the fuck does Hoss manage to double post so much, anyways?

I'm amazed that everyone thinks it's fine to kill someone, for any reason, (and talks it up like getting away with it is somehow an achievement and justice) while simultaneously crying 10,000 tears of rage every time a cop does anything at all to someone doing something equally as stupid as drunk driving or more-so like waving guns around a fucking walmart (fake or not) or resisting arrest, or rioting, or etc. etc. etc.

I'd also be willing to be that at least 90% of the posters in this thread have driven drunk, by the legal definition, more than once or fifty times in their lives. Where are your roadside executions?

Would it have been wrong for the father to shoot him if the driver wasn't drunk and it was just a general car accident? What if the father caused the accident but still shot the guy because his kids died and he blamed the other driver, is it justice then?

Happily I'm in your 10% then since I've never met the legal definition of drunk since I've had a license. So nyah.

I think, while it is a shame the driver lost his life, it would further be a shame if the father lost his for being held accountable for his actions when we all agree would be a very likely response from anyone.