Marriage and the Power of Divorce

Kiroy

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Just got engaged. Is it stupid to spend a lot of money on a wedding? My gut feeling is that it is. Can you married folk weigh in?
Yes IMO - my wife and I spent about 2k including ring / dress. We had a potluck wedding and we make pretty good money. Save the money for a down payment on a house. Or a new car. Or hell even the honey moon I guess. On the otherhand, if the wife isn't on board with a potluck type smaller wedding, good luck to ya.
 

Soygen

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Just got engaged. Is it stupid to spend a lot of money on a wedding? My gut feeling is that it is. Can you married folk weigh in?
Yes, it's very stupid. Unfortunately it's not always easy to convince the chick that it's stupid. Obviously, it's all relative to how wealthy you are.
 

Big Phoenix

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Yes, it's very stupid. Unfortunately it's not always easy to convince the chick that it's stupid. Obviously, it's all relative to how wealthy you are.
Any woman that thinks you need to spend money on a wedding/ring is no woman worth marrying.
 

Khane

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Any woman that thinks you need to spend money on a wedding/ring is no woman worth marrying.
I don't really disagree with this, but man... a lot of time you can't even blame her. Blame all the older women in her family trying to live vicariously through her. Weddings are a goddamn fiasco and for most of the weddings I've been to where i knew the bride and groom well enough to know what planning it was like... their families are the ones who get what they want more than bride and groom do.

What a stupid fucking tradition.
 

Oblio

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I told my family and her's "that you get what you get and you don't throw fit," just like my kid's kindergarten teacher tells him and his class mates. We did a Destination Wedding in Maui & I paid for the whole Wedding because I made more money than her parents combined. Sometimes I think it would be nice to have that 30k back BUT people still talk about our Wedding like it was the greatest fucking thing ever, story book and shit. I will tell my kids to elope or do destination on their terms, it is HER day and his too...kinda.
 

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We spent a lot, I had fun, got about 75% back in gifts. People still talk about how fun our wedding was. No regrets here. Spent about $25k
 

Khane

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I went to a bunch of parties in college that I'll never forget. I think those ran about 150 bucks or so out the door. I went to a bunch that I have no shot at ever remembering too. Those were probably a little more expensive.
 

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We spent a lot, I had fun, got about 75% back in gifts. People still talk about how fun our wedding was. No regrets here. Spent about $25k
Send boat for me, almost down to the dollar amounts.

If I go back through my life I guarantee I've spent way more than $25k on way more stupider shit than a wedding. In the end it's just money and you can't take it with you.
 

Khane

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Well when you think about it from the perspective that it's just a party (because it is) and that same party, at the same place, with the same food, and the same guests, would probably cost you $5k instead of $25k if the word "wedding" wasn't attached to it becomes one of the "dumber" things you could spend money on. Frivolous is probably a better word, because most people spend the money because they want to.

But as far as frivolous things to spend money on, weddings are right near the top.

At this point in my life I don't think I could ever bring myself to spending that kind of money on one day. I honestly don't believe there is a woman in the world that could change my mind about that either.
 

Big Phoenix

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I have a hard time seeing how you get 20k worth of useful gifts from a wedding. That mentality sounds an awful lot like my mom and her buying junk at a second hand store. She justifies it by saying "well brand new it would of been $100!" like it was some kind of insane deal she just couldnt pass up. When reality its just another piece of junk thats going to collect dust and clutter her house even more.

And youre right Khane. It is an incredible waste of money, and its downright stupid for 90% the people who do it.
 

Kriptini

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Turns out things aren't gonna work out with me and that girl. She still has conflicting feelings between me and her ex and she can't handle the thought of a relationship. Too bad, she was really cool. Could've been one of the great ones.

 

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I have a hard time seeing how you get 20k worth of useful gifts from a wedding. That mentality sounds an awful lot like my mom and her buying junk at a second hand store. She justifies it by saying "well brand new it would of been $100!" like it was some kind of insane deal she just couldnt pass up. When reality its just another piece of junk thats going to collect dust and clutter her house even more.

And youre right Khane. It is an incredible waste of money, and its downright stupid for 90% the people who do it.
My thoughts too, unless people are giving you 5 grand cash which maybe people do but no one in my family/friends.

Seriously all you need is an event space, food and more booze than could possibly be consumed. Every other part of the wedding is a waste of time.
 

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People who spend a lot on weddings are statistically much more likely to divorce.
I don't know how this could be accurately assessed, but my frugal nature leads me to believe that it's true and the root cause is financial instability from the incurred wedding debt. I can't imagine how much of an added stress a big wedding would've been on our relationship. My wife and I eloped, which was a first for both of our families, but no one pressured us into a ceremony. Yeah, we missed out on the "gifts," but do you really need 3 quesadilla makers and 5 toasters?
 

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I don't know how this could be accurately assessed, but my frugal nature leads me to believe that it's true and the root cause is financial instability from the incurred wedding debt. I can't imagine how much of an added stress a big wedding would've been on our relationship. My wife and I eloped, which was a first for both of our families, but no one pressured us into a ceremony. Yeah, we missed out on the "gifts," but do you really need 3 quesadilla makers and 5 toasters?
There are a few articles on it but essentially there is a correlation to every 5k spent and years to divorce--growing shorter with more money spent. Studies didn't show the direct cause of action, though. So who knows. I imagine, as you said, a large debt isn't good for a marriage, since most marriages end from financial issues anyway--but it could also be a lot of things (Maybe people with large marriages tend to have very domineering families? Or partners? ect)

This is really great info Lithose. Thanks a ton.

^ see Moonarchia, advice! But yeah, advice is kind of the wrong word. Helpful to get other's experience with it though.
Np! I loaded it up with warnings, because that's kind of how it was front loaded for us. But as said, they are all pretty happy. Obviously I can't know for sure how things are at their homes, but the guys never seem off or unhappy when we get together for game nights. And in the one guys case (The one who isn't also openly with someone else) he's said they have sex almost constantly, and that being so honest about sensitive issues (Especially the emotional stuff behind it) has made it seem silly to find it awkward to talk about other issues they used to have problems discussing (like bedroom discussions to even finance.)

So didn't mean to make it sound too ominous, they were mainly relaying pitfalls they had or other couples they knew had. But it works for them, really well, apparently--they told us a few stories (they are pretty painfully frank, I guess you have to be if you're inviting people to do this hah.)
 

Gavinmad

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your memory is correct I fell for the scam thread of needing help, she sent me nudes as thanks (unasked for). Gavin just likes ruffling my feathers. Because my wife told me not to talk to her and I did, after that people like to turn it into a sordid tale of sex lies and videotapes. My short interaction with her is relevant here in that I don't associate with single women like at all, but I could see how it became "interesting" even though it never approached something inappropriate. People in long term monogamous relationships who don't at least have a little curiosity seem really odd to me.

In retrospect my being honest with my feelings on that, I believe it was to gavinmad originally set me up for what is now 5 yrs of ribbing but if people looked at it from the light of this discussion might have understood better by what I meant. The fact this women got me to do something though rather innocuous behind my wife's back for the first time in my marriage was just an eye opener for me. Lindz saying she is already sexting somebody else is about 300% further down the road then I ever got, but I can admit I heard the siren song.
It's all in good fun bro, but I'm actually the one who told you in IRC to cut off all contact and work things out with your wife, well before you ever admitted it was Lori.
 

Itlan

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I don't know how this could be accurately assessed, but my frugal nature leads me to believe that it's true and the root cause is financial instability from the incurred wedding debt. I can't imagine how much of an added stress a big wedding would've been on our relationship. My wife and I eloped, which was a first for both of our families, but no one pressured us into a ceremony. Yeah, we missed out on the "gifts," but do you really need 3 quesadilla makers and 5 toasters?
The toasters no, but being able to make 3 quesadillas at a time would be amazing.