Marriage and the Power of Divorce

Titan_Atlas said:

So, wife has been in Texas the last 5 days for a friend's wedding as bridesmaid. They have been drunk at the clubs most nights, though my wife called it early a couple nights. Her two best friends that went with her got in a 4am fistfight in the hotel room last night. Her one friend has been fucking randoms the while time. I got to thinking about expectations.

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Yeah I dont think I would be able to put up with that. IMO theres just somethings you shouldnt do when in a committed relationship, especially married. Playing wingman while your girlfriends get shitfaced while riding a dick carousal is one of them.

Titan_Atlas said:

So, wife has been in Texas the last 5 days for a friend's wedding as bridesmaid. They have been drunk at the clubs most nights, though my wife called it early a couple nights. Her two best friends that went with her got in a 4am fistfight in the hotel room last night. Her one friend has been fucking randoms the while time. I got to thinking about expectations.
I think traditionally women took the role of moral compass. Yes, this came with inequality in some arenas. While men have always brawled, whored around while drinking like sailers, and making bad decisions. Women overall were the more calming force and contained the animalism. I think a real terrible side effect of Feminism has been opening up women to do the same unexceptable stupid behavior. I don't know if I'm the only one but I'm really kinda disgusted with the behavior. I'm not hand waving men, I just think we are more programmed biologically to be idiots. The nice thing was women civilized us, especially once we settled down and started looking after a family. The more recent addition of many women acting like savage retards is really disconcerting.

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Serious answer, when men figured out the basic idea that their kids came from them and if they didn't want to be raising some other dudes spawn that they needed to guard access to their women is when a couple things happened. First, women kind of became property and encouraged not to fuck around (hint they still did, a lot) and (in addition to being tied down to child rearing) were contained and protected because they are the bottleneck of our reproduction cycle. Woman are "moral" and "conservative" because you need a lot more of them to keep the species going so they vary from the mean very little. Men are, evolutionarily speaking, expendable so they can do all sorts of crazy bullshit and the species continues as long as one or two guys can Ghengis Khan the species. Our cultures might have grown up around those survival instinct strategies, but they are still there.

We can just override that wiring because our intelligence lets us sometimes ignore our programming. And the ability to ignore it goes up the further removed from the basic needs of survival we get along with the crazy being ramped up. The other thing at play here is that we really do not remove defects or failure from our genetics anymore, since we are technologically adept enough to remove the basics of survival as a hurdle to making more hell spawn. So on some levels, you are right, but on others the species might need some crazy bitches to take themselves out of the gene pool.

Pescador said:

Four years married and four pregnancies? I'm on my eighth year of marriage and I feel like we've moved pretty fast with the same situation (2 kids, 2 miscarriages). I'm not implying that the way I did things is the right or the best way, but it was nice to get years of dating and years of marriage together before having kids. Maybe your wife feels like she missed out on her "wild" years and was trying to recapture or make up for that? Not sure how old you guys are but I've seen couples with that age gap where the younger harbors some resentment for fast forwarding into "adult life" too quickly.

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On the other hand, since she now has skin in the game and an eye opening weekend of seeing how little her white trash pals have changed, she might go the other direction. I would say its a coinflip, without being aware of any other factors. But usually a planned kid (vs an Oops) means the "I got skin in the game" mentality kicks in. I would guess her checking in is her mulling over the contrast between herself and her old friends manifesting itself. I mostly agree with you, but I think Titan wanted to get his kids cranked out before he got too old so he was working against the clock on that one.

Alex said:

She's not playing wingman. She's just going out with friends. At an out-of-town wedding. Jesus some of you people. You sound very sad and not-fun.

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Agree with this, especially if she has shown zero signs of any sort of behavior to say otherwise. Part of being married and making it work is trust (i.e. not treating the other person like a child or pet).

Cad said:

Oh I'm sure THEY are fun. But they expect women to be 1950's housewives or they are "whores riding the dick carousel."

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Think theres a bit of a difference between having a drink with a friend the night before a wedding, and going out to a club while your friends get shit faced to find someone to fuck for the night.

Cad said:

Since your wording is ambiguous, is the wife in this instance the one looking for someone to fuck for the night or is it her friends?

The sad thing here is the double standard you're applying to women - as if they're not allowed to go find someone to fuck for the night. There's men involved in every step of that, but the women are "whores riding the dick carousel" while men are what, spinning plates and being badasses? The language used by a lot of posters here displays very unusual contempt for women if they behave in a sexual manner at all, and honestly it's a bit scary.

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Well it's not the responsibility of random people to uphold your relationship. And if the roles were reversed, one of our female posters said their husband was off in another state getting drunk at clubs as their buddies slept with random women every night I'd say the same thing.

BP is one friend zoning away from signing up for MGOTW.....