Marriage and the Power of Divorce

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The Ancient_sl

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Sad Bro story:

Have a friend eight months ago that went on a date with some chick from match.com that turned out to be a one night stand. Supposedly, when they went to bang and he reached for the rubber, she told him "don't worry about it". I railed on him the day after the date for not using a rubber, if only for STD reasons, and got the "yeah, yeah I know-- I was drunk and she's a stand up chick, I'm not worried about it". Well, flash forward a few months and he calls me freaked out because she called him out of the blue (there was no contact after the one night stand) saying that she's pregnant with his kid, but don't worry about it because she's getting an abortion. She just "wanted him to know". So, he's obviously all worked up and relieved at the same time, but was ruminating over why she bothered to even call him if she's getting an abortion. I basically shrug and tell him who cares, it's woman logic, and that he should just thank his lucky stars that's she's getting things taken care of. Flash forward another five months or so, and again he gets a call from her out of the blue. It was basically a short, 30 second statement saying "I decided to keep the baby after all and will be giving birth in a month. You are welcome to request a paternity test, but I will be couriering you child support paperwork as soon as he/she is born. Bye".

Bro is fucking sad to say the least..
What if she was pissed that he didn't ever call her after the hookup and decided she would give him an epic troll.
 

The Master

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My wife and I just don't have that kind of relationship. I cannot imagine ever accepting her with another man, or the guilt I would feel about being with another woman. I don't think there is any "right" way to live, I'm happy when people are happy. I just don't think it is for me and I don't think there is some change or whatever that I could make in my life that would make it ok. Of course that is now, maybe 20-30 years from now we will be dirty swingers or something but I doubt it.
I agree. This makes us happy, so this is how we do things.

@Khane: Yes. Open relationships are harder. No question. It isn't at all unstable though, you'll just have to take my word for it. The sex is pretty great to, because I don't have sex with people I don't care about. I've done that, it isn't fun for me. Sometimes it works out where I get to have sex with multiple people I care about at the same time. Who also care about each other. This really isn't as uncommon as you'd think, most people simply don't talk about it. 4-5% of heterosexuals are engaged in some form of consensual nonmonogamy. Think of 20 couples you know. Are any of them open, to your knowledge? Statistically, one of them probably is and you don't know about it. Because most people hide it from people who aren't also open or don't need to know, for obvious reasons. I'm surprised at all the people in this thread who have never been in an open relationship who are absolutely certain they aren't stable.

Also I agree with Cad's responses, so I'll skip repeating his answers because they are nigh identical to what I would have said.
 

Khane

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I'm sure most of us would love to fuck an 18-year old cum slut now and again, but I can't.
I don't understand grown men wanting to fuck an 18 year old. I can see wanting to fuck a 22 year old maybe probably closer to 24 for me personally, but why would you want to fuck an 18 year old? Not only do they mostly look like babies but they are most likely shit in bed too.
 

Khane

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I agree. This makes us happy, so this is how we do things.

@Khane: Yes. Open relationships are harder. No question. It isn't at all unstable though, you'll just have to take my word for it. The sex is pretty great to, because I don't have sex with people I don't care about. I've done that, it isn't fun for me. Sometimes it works out where I get to have sex with multiple people I care about at the same time. Who also care about each other. This really isn't as uncommon as you'd think, most people simply don't talk about it. 4-5% of heterosexuals are engaged in some form of consensual nonmonogamy. Think of 20 couples you know. Are any of them open, to your knowledge? Statistically, one of them probably is and you don't know about it. Because most people hide it from people who aren't also open or don't need to know, for obvious reasons. I'm surprised at all the people in this thread who have never been in an open relationship who are absolutely certain they aren't stable.

Also I agree with Cad's responses, so I'll skip repeating his answers because they are nigh identical to what I would have said.
I don't think I know 20 couples well enough to be able to answer that question. Also, I never said I was certain yours was unstable or that it's an inevitability it will become so in the future. I'm simply saying it's naive to think "Mine is completely stable now, so it always will be". Just like it would be equally as naive to say "My monagamous relationship is stable right now, so it always will be".

That statistic by the way. Is that 5% of people are in open relationships period? Or 5% of people are in open relationships that they qualify as "happy and fulfilling"?
 

The Master

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Dataclysm agrees with Khane, 22 is the peak of female attractiveness according to the best data we have on the subject.

Well yeah, obviously. People change and relationships can change as a result, which can damage them. But for the moment at least my relationship is pretty stable and I think you'd be surprised how stable open relationships are. If nothing else the honesty and extra work you have to put in benefit the relationship a great deal. It'd benefit closed relationships as well, of course, but I've met few people who communicate as honestly in closed relationships.

EDIT: 5% of all heterosexual adults are engaged in some form of consensual nonmonogamy. I won't go into the research on their average happiness, it is still in its infancy and I don't think any of the results have even been peer reviewed yet. Though if any of the the initial data is correct people in open relationships are much happier than average. I'd be curious to see the numbers on homosexual and bisexual open relationships, but no one has researched it as yet.
 

Tenks

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I don't understand grown men wanting to fuck an 18 year old. I can see wanting to fuck a 22 year old maybe probably closer to 24 for me personally, but why would you want to fuck an 18 year old? Not only do they mostly look like babies but they are most likely shit in bed too.
I've had sex with exactly one virgin who was also 18. The BJ I got was the most hilarious thing in the world. She was going on about how her friends and her practiced on bananas and shit. It showed. She would literally just put my dick down her throat, pop up, repeat. There was zero tongue interaction, zero lip suction or anything. It was the most awkward five minutes of my life. I wasn't sure if I was supposed to tell her to stop or not. It made it even worse I had recently gotten out of a relationship with a chick that was like queen of head.
 

Louis

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I don't understand grown men wanting to fuck an 18 year old. I can see wanting to fuck a 22 year old maybe probably closer to 24 for me personally, but why would you want to fuck an 18 year old? Not only do they mostly look like babies but they are most likely shit in bed too.
This is such bullshit lol. There are 18 year olds that you wish you could fuck.
 

BrotherWu

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I was a bit of a late bloomer due to being afraid that God hated blowjobs but I got my first one when I was 18 and the girl was a virgin preacher's daughter and she didn't really know what she was going either but, to be honest, I was so turned on by it that I had no complaints, other than she didn't finish.

How did yours end, Tenks? Just "Ah, yeah, well thanks, that's enough." ?
 

Fifey

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This is such bullshit lol. There are 18 year olds that you wish you could fuck.
Want to fuck in fantasy land, yes. In reality where you will likely have to talk to them before/afterwards, not be able to put things in the butt or shoot in their mouth. I'd much rather have a mid to late twenties girl since they usually let you do more. I had some fun on okc/tinder last year and knocked out a couple sub 21 year olds and every time I regretted it.
 

Tenks

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I was a bit of a late bloomer due to being afraid that God hated blowjobs but I got my first one when I was 18 and the girl was a virgin preacher's daughter and she didn't really know what she was going either but, to be honest, I was so turned on by it that I had no complaints, other than she didn't finish.

How did yours end, Tenks? Just "Ah, yeah, well thanks, that's enough." ?
She eventually stopped and we had bad sex
 

Tarrant

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She eventually stopped and we had bad sex
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Big Phoenix

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Dataclysm agrees with Khane, 22 is the peak of female attractiveness according to the best data we have on the subject.

Well yeah, obviously. People change and relationships can change as a result, which can damage them. But for the moment at least my relationship is pretty stable and I think you'd be surprised how stable open relationships are. If nothing else the honesty and extra work you have to put in benefit the relationship a great deal. It'd benefit closed relationships as well, of course, but I've met few people who communicate as honestly in closed relationships.

EDIT: 5% of all heterosexual adults are engaged in some form of consensual nonmonogamy. I won't go into the research on their average happiness, it is still in its infancy and I don't think any of the results have even been peer reviewed yet. Though if any of the the initial data is correct people in open relationships are much happier than average. I'd be curious to see the numbers on homosexual and bisexual open relationships, but no one has researched it as yet.
My dad had an "open" relationship with his girlfriend before she died. Pretty much the polar opposite of what you describe in terms of healthiness and what a good relationship is. You literally have a one and a billion girl and youre a one and a billion guy if neither of you have any qualms about having boyfriends/girlfriends on the side.
 

Cad

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My dad had an "open" relationship with his girlfriend before she died. Pretty much the polar opposite of what you describe in terms of healthiness and what a good relationship is. You literally have a one and a billion girl and youre a one and a billion guy if neither of you have any qualms about having boyfriends/girlfriends on the side.
But again, how many unhealthy/toxic relationships are there, open or not? Sure it is out of the ordinary to be open, but what makes you think that was the cause of the problem?
 

Ameraves

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Saw that a few days ago, and of course have family and friends sending it to me as well. It is really cool that they are finally making those breakthroughs. My situation may be beyond that now just due to the amount of time it has been since my injury. But who knows, crazy advances in medicine. I am just happy to see they are making such great progress, and I am willing to bet that in 10-20 years hey will be able to fix spinal cord injuries pretty quickly after they happen.
 

Jysin

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PLEAASE Onoes! tell me you took that little girl to get ice cream in your Jurassic Park truck....
What is the point? Considering Jurassic Park came out the year she was born, she probably has no fucking clue what it is! haha
 

Khane

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Didn't he hit on a 16 year old at a party?
Yes he did. They had an amazing conversation. He didn't realize she was 16 and couldn't believe it when he found out because she was really mature and they had so much in common. Poor guy can only relate to crazies and teenagers.