Might & Magic X: Legacy

Crazily_sl said:

I might try shaman, freemage, druid, runepriest...

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I went that with my first 4mages group but I don't think the shaman adds anything, so my new 4mage setup is runepriest x2, druid, freemage. If spells weren't so expensive, I'd probably drop the freemage but really need that ID and secret detection to save at least that. Druid is great for healing cause you can cast Regeneration+Stoneskin+the "HoT" they get when promoted and basically it does all the healing automatically for multiple turns, then you can spam blizzard or whatever. One runepriest goes Light magic for secondary healing and fire for dmg, other pure fire/magic focus.

4mages actually seems it'll be broken OP once you reach GM on all 4. As in, kill everything in sight in one round, even the mega large packs at the end. It's only rough the first 10ish levels or so, basically act1(and it's not even that rough if you know what you're doing, gust+entangle, or just entangle are your best friends early on imo, I get both on druid and freemage to juggle melee mobs, plus entangle is actually a really good nuke if you level earth on the druid).




As for the question on my optimal party, with just finishing the game in mind(not like killing the cyclops/shadow dragon early or challenge based stuff), I actually think 4mages might be the most optimal, even if it can be shaky early on. In a more traditional party setup, you generally want a freemage in every group for secret detecting, but if you know where the secrets are beforehand(you've played the game already), you could drop him and get a better character.

Assuming you don't though, Freemage(2spirit 2vit for the first 10 levels or so, then 2spirit 1vit 1magic for a while, then 2magic 1vit 1spirit, like say starting 20) with Air/Focus GM, primordial expert, dark expert or master(choice depends on your melee DPS, if you go dagger bladedancer then you want master, if you go barb then you don't). Utility bitch for IDing and secrets detection, also purging shit, then air nuker when not doing that, want to pump vit higher since it's the squishiest character and you don't want to constantly rez him. Consider using the vit and +5health potion on this guy.

Runepriest with GM Earth + Fire and Expert or Master Light(depends on your tastes), 1pt shield(or more later on), 1pt medium, 1magic 1vit 2spirit for the first 15-20levels then 2magic instead. Basically the healer/buffer but can nuke with fire hard when there's no need to heal.

Crusader, GM sword+light, see the guide a few posts before on how to level that one. Support healer, does good damage.

Bladedancer or Barb. The choice here varies, but for example with paladin and master dark on your freemage, you get 2 insane flat damage buffs, so a dagger blade dancer would hit for +60damage flat, per attack. Count 6attacks per round when GM dagger, that's 360damage, not even counting your own damage. That said, that's a late bloomer, dagger GM trainer is the lastest you can reach in the game and is basically right before the end of the game, with only 4attacks it's not quite as good, also no relic daggers I believe. For a more consistent experience, I'd go spear barb. In terms of skills, GM spear+2H for the barb, GM dagger+DW for the bladedancer. Dump spare points in defensive shit. Probably ignore destiny on both of these since they don't get too much out of it(spear and daggers don't have "on crit" effects like sword/axe/mace), and instead do 3might 1vit, with maybe a few levels being 2might 2vit for early safety, but they start with high health so not sure it's needed. Might want to dump +5mana pots and +1spirit pots on your bladedancer so he has mana to use his aoe, but shit's so expensive you probably won't get much use out of it.

Turbo_sl said:

Pyros - No need to put any points into perception for hit accuracy? My bladedancer still seems to miss alot but maybe with posion spray it will help some.

Also I think i'm dumping my crusader and going to go bladedancer/druid/runepriest/freemage. I want to go 4 casters but part of me hates to see all the melee loot rot! Plus i'd like alittle bit of melee damage in their for any spell resisent etc. Also will probably go swords. RP development is the big question, thinking i'll go fire/light forsure but not sure if I want to work on focus or just keep him with a shield (or does spear actually work better with expert block?)

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You won't miss once you have enough weapon skills, and perception only adds 1point vs 2% dmg for might so I really don't like it. I'd recommend doing the trek to The Crag as soon as you clear a few mobs in the forest to get a couple of levels and train master Dagger. If you're using swords then master sword is easy so you shouldn't be having an issue. Once you have 25points in your main weapon skill to be honest you don't really miss at all until much later in the game(still get blocked though). Your offhand will miss still miss though until you also get full points in that and even then it's still more likely to miss. Do use poison spray in the meantime, it also helps a lot, and does fairly good damage too. But like for example in the last dungeon, even without using poison spray(I stopped using it cause I wanted to always do the first hit with my windsword for the autocrit), with 25dagger 25DW and no perception, my ranger was hitting like 90% of the time(maybe a bit less on offhand). If you don't miss in endgame with 25dagger, you won't miss in midgame with the same 25 dagger.

On the shield thing, remember you can equip a focus and a shield. Makes the unlocks fairly shitty but it still gives crit% and you get the good defenses from the shield. Expert shield is also a ton better than expert spear defensively, you get 4blocks with a shields(1 base, 1 additional for being a shield, 2 from expert) vs 3 for spear(1 from 2H, 2 from expert) AND you get like 15AC from the shield itself(well less so before expert/higher levels but still good).

So tried to run to the crag at 13 to learn master water/earth/air, but I guess resists are based on level to prevent mages from being able to kill high lvl shit as easily, so it's basically impossible at this point, can't kill a dreamweaver cause half the spells are resisted and he heals, even if I purge the heal(assuming the purge lands on first try), they still don't die before the recast, and that's just the first group. So decided to progress instead, I'll try again at 16-17 or so. Wouldn't be as much of an issue with a melee centric party, especially with a couple of sword users, since you'd basically have capped sword at that point making it easy to hit them and hit them hard.

Also the hireling that's just outside seahaven is insane for a 4mages party. Gives you a free rest everyday, so 12 supplies(from seahaven) lasts like 30rests, other than inventory issues you can basically go almost forever. The gold he takes is less than what you'd spend on potions and supplies anyway, so it's a great deal, other than not being able to use another hireling(since you kinda always want the +10%xp guy the entire game). Also can easily get him back if you have to drop him for a quest since he's right outside seahaven.