Murders and Shootings

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tad10

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Famm_sl said:
People go all John Wayne and save their household all the time against armed intruders, just think of all the times its happened to one of your neighbors! I'm sure we all personally know dozens of individuals who have lived out this gun advocate fantasy scenario.
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I don't know about personally but a simple google search shows quite a lot. A sample.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/kendra-st-c...ry?id=17524438
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/08...-deputies-say/
http://www.turnto23.com/news/local-n...nside-his-home

Last one's a doozy: "The family that lives in the home said it's the third time in seven days someone has tried to break into the home."

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/very...home-intruder/
http://www.wvgazette.com/News/Putnam/201211170055
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/P...182391481.html
Gotta protect the "stash"
http://www.wric.com/story/16008591/i...-home-invasion

Etc. Etc.

Anyway fuck off!
 
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lanludar

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Brando_sl said:
Right, because it has absolutely nothing to do with this situation. You can't stop crazy, you can stop crazy and armed. Fucking disgusting and sick, my daughters are 8 and 6 and the thought of this happening at their school just makes me angry.
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Home schooling is the answer for that one. Doing it for my ten year old now and even more glad I did now.
 
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Mikhail Bakunin_sl

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Brando_sl said:
Certain types of guns were only made to kill people, that's a fact, whether you want to claim otherwise or not. There's a ton of shit that has nothing to do with hunting or home protection.
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1. What the gun was "made for" has fuck all to do with anything. Cars are made for driving, but that doesn't prevent me from deliberately running people over with one. The fact of the matter is the vast (and I mean fucking vast) majority of gun owners (and those in sufficient proximity to use their guns) use guns for the purpose of recreation.
2. For those people who have a gun for self-defense, the ability to kill someone is like...the entire point.

Brando_sl said:
If you somehow think that restricting the availability of things that would be deemed to fit in that category would infringe on everything else then fine, but this is done in almost every other facet of our lives.
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Numbers_sl

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GuardianX_sl said:
Plenty of people were talking a ban on guns over the last few pages...

Also, no I am not saying that if you ban guns this person would have pulled a 9/11, I'm not fox news.

What I am saying is that people will find a way to pull off their acts of destruction.
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You tried to form a straw-man and called called out for it. Don't pretend like you know why this guy did what he did.
 
Jait

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There's a lot of fucking retardedness going on around here. Hey, we have a unspeakable tragedy...how can I exploit it for my own personal agenda?

There's a lot of just plain "wrong" today, try not to add to it.
 
Gavinmad

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Springbok_sl said:
Not a man.

If you can't kill it with a bow and arrow and a knife, you're a fucking pussy who doesn't deserve the kill.

Otherwise, shut the fuck up.
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Modern compound recurves are pretty much every bit as lethal as firearms anyway.

I hunt with a sharpened stick you pathetic little skidmark.
 
Springbok

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Mikhail Bakunin_sl said:
Well you're retarded and nobody gives a shit what you think.

That's not even remotely how the burden works here, retard. You're the one arguing for forcible government action in the lives of million of people who've never hurt anyone with a firearm on the basis that someone else might. You're going to have to do a lot better than pointing to some politically expedient tragedy and shouting (because, again, nobody gives a shit what you think).

I'd spend the time explaining how illogical this line of thinking is, but frankly I don't think you'd grasp what I was saying anyway. I'll cut to the chase: you're retarded.
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Talking in circles is fun - you don't even know what you're arguing against. You're simply mad, dog.

I'm not arguing any government action, because its both impossible and also too late. The cat is out of the bag, and all that would lead to is more violence and tragedy.

I'm arguing that people that own guns are largely insecure poor faggots from rural America, and that there is literally no place for firearms in our society. I'm also saying that our country is a worse place because of you mongrels, and if this is your hobby I weep for you and the offspring you will produce.

Like I said, move to a city, make money, bang girls and enjoy your life. I've never heard anybody say, "Broooo, last weekend was sick. That new AR-15 fucked those cans UP! Good thing I added that sweet grip and larger mag."

Get a fucking life.
 
Famm

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Jait_sl said:
There's a lot of fucking retardedness going on around here. Hey, we have a unspeakable tragedy...how can I exploit it for my own personal agenda?

There's a lot of just plain "wrong" today, try not to add to it.
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HOLY FUCK IT TURNED POLITICAL? Who'd have thunk it. I figured this thread would go on for 50 pages and all weekend full of nothing but vanilla platitudes like "speechless, just senseless, my heart goes out to all involved". That's the important kind of stuff to post, folks. Don't have an opinion or Jait might get sensitive.

tad10_sl said:
This is General, take that shit to GUF.
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Me and tad agree on shit once in a great while.
 
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Mikhail Bakunin_sl

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Azeth_sl said:
For every 1 person in the United States .0044% are murdered annually. Of that amount .0031% are from firearms.

Europe is something like overall murders .0009%, from firearms .0002%
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I think you mean 70.45% of that are from firearms for the US and 22.22% of that are from firearms for Europe. Also you don't have to say "for every 1 person" when you're giving statistics about the population.
 
Springbok

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Gavinrad_sl said:
Modern compound recurves are pretty much every bit as lethal as firearms anyway.

I hunt with a sharpened stick you pathetic little skidmark.
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Great, so you legitimately have no reason for owning a firearm. Thanks for proving my point son.

Also, modern recurve bows have a super high rate of fire - and are just as easy to use as an AR-15.

Are you idiots even trying?
 
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Numbers_sl

shitlord
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Jait_sl said:
There's a lot of fucking retardedness going on around here. Hey, we have a unspeakable tragedy...how can I exploit it for my own personal agenda?

There's a lot of just plain "wrong" today, try not to add to it.
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What and who's agenda are you talking about Jait?
 
Burnem Wizfyre

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tad10_sl said:
I don't know about personally but a simple google search shows quite a lot. A sample.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/kendra-st-c...ry?id=17524438
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/08...-deputies-say/
http://www.turnto23.com/news/local-n...nside-his-home

Last one's a doozy: "The family that lives in the home said it's the third time in seven days someone has tried to break into the home."

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/very...home-intruder/
http://www.wvgazette.com/News/Putnam/201211170055
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/P...182391481.html
Gotta protect the "stash"
http://www.wric.com/story/16008591/i...-home-invasion

Etc. Etc.

Anyway fuck off!
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There are plenty of people who do not agree with springbok and his opinions, let other people debate against him. The reason I say this is even because I am on your side of this debate you make me want to be on his side because you are so fucking stupid and the arguments you make are fucking stupid. So would you kindly please just shut the fuck up.
 
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TecKnoe

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Gaige_sl said:
Why? I wouldn't want to get into a shootout with a criminal for my car or anything in my home. My life isn't worth the risk. Material possessions are replaceable.
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Because they are probably going to rape you then take you're shit, what the fuck?
 
Springbok

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Mikhail Bakunin_sl said:
There's nothing illegitimate about owning a firearm for fun, retard.
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Right, in your mind its equal to owning a baseball bat for fun because baseball bats can kill the shit out of people!

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Listen, you jackalopes have already proven how dumb your arguments are. You're entitled to your opinion certainly, but can someone pro-guns at least have the decency to make a legitimate argument? I haven't even bothered pulling facts from google yet.
 
BrutulTM

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Do you faggots have some sort of problem with using the Gun Control thread that was specifically made for this horseshit?
 
Azrayne

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Damn America, wtf is wrong with you.

I don't even know how you guys are even surprised by this shit anymore, it happens so often. Kids though, that's an extra serving of fucked up :/
 
Brando

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Not sure why you're surprised by my statement Mikhail, in almost any other material industry if the product is determined dangerous to the public it's usually regulated, restricted or banned from sale.

Edit: That's my last comment in this thread on this. In regard to the situation, sounds like we're not going to get any further info until tomorrow. Fucking sucks man, 20 kindergarten aged kids just gone....
 
Famm

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Wouldn't a shotgun be just as good for defending most of these hypothetical armed burglaries as a handgun or an automatic rifle? I've heard from cops before that they recommend a pump shotgun for home defense to people who aren't really shooters. Easy to use, unmistakable sound of chambering the shell is loud enough to send most intruders the other way before you even see them****, don't have to be a marksman to spray the fucker with shot if you actually do have to discharge it, and its safer since children don't have the upper body strength to pump it generally if they happened to get their hands on it.

**** (Lets be real here, most break ins are intended to be a smash and grab. If someone is home it was a miscalculation. The idea of burglars who want to take you hostage while they look through your dresser or decide to rape your wife while they're there is pretty rare. Its more the stuff of home security company scare tactics.)
 
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