NBA 2015-2016 Season thread

In my fantasy land, I wish the sixers would go hard for Ingram too. Not sure what it would cost us and it would prob revolve around them trying to get Paul George but we have the assets to make a legit offer.

Jeez. Cavs not fucking around.

Slaythe_sl said:

Have to deal Okafor+ to make that happen.

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I think we'd have a chance to send Noel instead but we'd have to give up more in terms of picks. Lakers really need a center with a defensive presence.

Raptors in 5

Raptors have won every series this year in which they've lost Game 1, so I'd have been more worried if they won that game.




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yea, I don't see it man. Cavs just have too much fire power. It wouldn't surprise me if they sweep this series. I think the Raptors are a pretty good team, but do you get the sense they are lacking one more key player? Doesn't help they have a pretty good big man hurt. He probably changes things a bit, so I'll be fair to point that out.

These playoffs are setting up so nicely for Lebron's team. The stars seem to be aligning.

The East is a joke, the Cav's are healthy, and they have never played better together. The Warriors and OKC are going to beat the shit out of one another for the next 2 weeks. Even if the team that emerges does so with all their guys healthy, they are going to be fatigued.

If they don't bring a championship to Cleveland this year, it is never going to happen.

Fight_sl said:

These playoffs are setting up so nicely for Lebron's team. The stars seem to be aligning.

The East is a joke, the Cav's are healthy, and they have never played better together. The Warriors and OKC are going to beat the shit out of one another for the next 2 weeks. Even if the team that emerges does so with all their guys healthy, they are going to be fatigued.

If they don't bring a championship to Cleveland this year, it is never going to happen.

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I agree Cavs have it easy, but I am not sure about the "playoff fatigue" this year. The games are so spread out since they changed how they played them a few years ago. Curry is def still a touch off, but I think he will get his wind back before the end of this series. I still hope they lose, I think a Durant /Westbrook vs Lebron/Irving will be an awesome match. Especially since the Thunder are not green anymore, unlike that Heat/Thunder series. It would be fucking amazing. Warriors/Cavs will be a finesse series, and not be as fun.

Djay_sl said:

Raptors have won every series this year in which they've lost Game 1, so I'd have been more worried if they won that game.




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Cavs have won every series in which they've won Game 1.

Still going Raptors in 5

Convo_sl said:

yea, I don't see it man. Cavs just have too much fire power. It wouldn't surprise me if they sweep this series. I think the Raptors are a pretty good team, but do you get the sense they are lacking one more key player? Doesn't help they have a pretty good big man hurt. He probably changes things a bit, so I'll be fair to point that out.

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Yeah, my comment was definitely tongue-in-cheek. I do still think we can get 1 game. I think Casey's mistake the first game was protecting the 3-point line instead of the paint. I'd bet that there would be a regression to the mean for their shooting %s from the last round, but you can't give them direct lines to the hoop. People were complaining about Biyombo not helping, but that absolutely had to be the gameplan because he wouldn't intentionally miss that many rotations otherwise. I don't know if that would have made a difference...like I told Slaythe, they took our punch early and kept coming.

Valanciunas would make a big difference, but not if Casey doesn't adjust by having him defend Thompson instead of Love/Frye. Putting our center on those two and taking them away from the basket to cover the 3-point line is stupid. If they go small, you just feed JV on the offensive side to make them pay. Biyombo isn't a big enough threat on that side to do that.

I don't know if we're missing a key player...I just think there's a case of mistaken identity. To an extent it's like when LeBron first got to Miami and there was this power struggle between Wade and LeBron. It didn't work until everyone bought in that James was the best player. There's this idea that DeRozan is a top player, but I don't think you can win a championship if he's your 2nd best player. I think you need to buy in on Lowry being your #1 and he and JV need to be your 1-2 punch with DeRozan as a 3rd option. Even then, Lowry isn't in that Curry/LeBron/Durant level that you normally need to win a championship, so I think the only way we ever get there is like those 2000s Pistons teams.

Maybe we get a guy at #9 this year that makes a difference. Maybe Bruno ends up being that guy. Maybe neither do and we miss our window with Lowry/DeRozan/Carroll and have to rebuild around JV. I just think this team has too much heart to roll over...I still think we get at least 1. But maybe that's just the fan in me.

Kind of wonder how many good years Lowry has left as well. The window seems small with him. He's 30 I think? Some decent free agents this year, I'm sure you guys will make a run for one or two. I know It sounds like i'm writing you guys off, not trying to be a dick about that. That team just looks like 1 player away to me is all but like you said, it could just be a team identity thing as well.

Speaking of FA's, the sixers are about to have 5 rookies on the bench. We are going to need someone willing to come here that can still play but has that veteran presence. Preferably someone who has won elsewhere.

Anything can happen. I'm happy to be here, but I don't want to be just happy to be here, you know? I was a little annoyed with people writing us off before the series even started, but after that first game I can't blame anyone for that now. Only thing I can take from this is that OKC was crushed by the Spurs in Game 1, too. Not that we have a Westbrook and Durant, but I can still hope. Hell, maybe LeBron gets hurt in Game 2 and then this is a completely different series.

Yeah, I'm not sure how many years Lowry has left. I don't think he has a ton of minutes on his legs, but the way he plays and throws his body around, I don't think he has 6 years left. Maybe 2-3 more All-Star years? I don't know, it's hard to tell these days with sports medicine where it is.

We don't have a lot of cap space unless we let DeRozan go. Part of me would be fine with that, but he's been so loyal to the team that I kinda want to reward that. Maybe I'm too sentimental to be a good GM.

Yea, I hear you, you want to build from there. Getting close always helps to attract good players tho, so there are a lot of positives to be had aside from the obvious, experience.

I didn't realize you guys were in cap trouble, who is eating up the money? Perfect world, they'd keep DeRozan and then go after a guy like Batum, i think he'd fit well there but sounds like it's not possible due to $$.

I just heard this yesterday and found it interesting b/c I know I live in a big basketball town but you don't fully realize until you hear stuff like this, aside from the finials last year, the 2001 Lakers-Sixers finals held the highest ratings.

We were actually 24th in Salary this year, but JV and Ross both come off their rookie deals, so that's an extra ~$16million. Plus DeRozan has a player option he'll opt out of. Biyombo, too. $14mil for JV, 14 for Caroll, 12 for Lowry, 10.5 for Ross. We could have 17.3million to spend, but it'll probably be 0 meaning we'll be limited to exceptions. Unless we think we can get Durant or someone of all-star caliber, I doubt we'll let DeRozan go.
We really need a Power Forward...I think there might be some good options at 9 in the draft, but if we don't get one there, that's our big need. I'd go over the cap to resign Biyombo, too...we don't have a capable backup for JV if we let him go, but I don't know how much we can realistically throw at a back-up.

That's interesting about the 2001 Finals...I wouldn't have guessed that. LA makes sense, but I would have thought the LA/Bos finals would have got more.

you guys have a really good shot at drafting Henry Ellenson( I spend way too much time looking at mock drafts.) Not sure what Marvin Williams would cost, but he'd be a pretty good upgrade as well?

already trade talk. Oakafor to lakers for Ingram. I'd do it if we packaged picks and went for Russell as well. Oakfor and 2 1sts for Ingram and Russell? That gives them the assets to chase PG and try to attract Durant.

NBA Rumors: Philadelphia 76ers Trading With Los Angeles Lakers, Drafting Both Brandon Ingram And Ben Simmons

I think they should dangle Noel to move back into the top 10. I wonder if the Pelicans would jump on something like that as opposed to drafting a center with more unknowns?

I think one of our 3 bigs get moved before next season tho.

Slaythe_sl said:

Convo. Homer helmet off. You aren't getting Russel AND the pick for just Okafor. Russell is the best prospect of anyone in that deal. You act like he's some throw in.

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No. Didn't say just Oak. We'd have to give up picks as well. We have the assets to make it happen. Just not sure how much it would cost us and it would really depend on the Lakers plans in FA. The lakers don't seem like a team that wants to wait and build. So much talk about them trying to get PG, they'll need picks/players to do that.

But I think it's more likely we package Noel with something and try to get a shooter.