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Zaide

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Yea I posted as mind tickle. Guy has to be a troll. Lol we are the majority, casuals will rule.
Dude that's actually the reality on Lockjaw right now. I'd say troll for sure if this was anything but EQ. This game is a magnet for deluded people to come together in big groups where they can go full retard.
 

Sterling

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I especially enjoy the guy saying that sometimes 24 hours isn't enough. You guys need to leave the raid mob up for a week if that's how long it takes us to muster a raid force!
 

Creslin

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The other day AD wiped to Inny with 77 people for two hours. We came in and scooped it up. MM had like 22 deaths on their last Nagafen kill. You'd think these guilds would want more FFA days so they could at least blame us for taking the mobs rather than having to face their own incompetence for two straight hours.
Thats not a good stance, the 2 hr window then FFA rule on lockjaw was fine. Ya sometimes a guild like AD would wipe and lose a target but the alternative is to not get a shot at all, I don't think they give a fuck about being able to blame you, they just want kills.

24hr window will result in tons of lost spawns because most guilds will push raids until prime time to max attendance.
 

Pyratec

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Yeah this Casualstrength guy is a troll, he has to be. He claims everyone is being super selfish when he wants everyone to bend to his whims and is actually being super selfish himself. Even the name is a bit too clever. A pretty good troll but I would say a troll nonetheless.
 

lost

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After playing many private UO servers, it's frightening how a vocal group can force change. Now seeing it on EQ with a real company, yikes. So many times they just knee jerk reaction and fuck things up. It seems obvious to the silent minority that what the vocal majority screams for isn't going to work, but they do it anyway. Then we all say I told you so.

If Eq wasn't a great game, I'd say dbg would have been sunk with their performance. They can't police this rotation in a timely manner. In order for things to be fair we all have to watch spawns. If TL didn't say hey apok we know you're over your allotted time, no one would have cause people don't watch if it isn't their turn. Fucking roe didn't even watch n they were next. In no world should those two guilds have back to back spots in a rotation to avoid trickery.

It's absurd we have to police each other. Force this shit on us then don't police it. I know announcing when a boss spawns to other guilds can suck but in this example it would have helped so we don't have to babysit the melveny-breeze duo and what they're up to.

I don't know if this will last past kunark. You guys are nuts wanting to have six months of this shit. If kunark doesn't change then who the hell wants to keep playing this shit. Next they'll add in PNP and camps, that'll be something. I'm surprised that's the one thing they have let continue, KSing. It seems necessary though with all the box crews if you couldn't KS then you'd never get a camp. But then again it's because of KS that I've built a bigger box crew.

I also liked the Ffa after x hours of attempts on a boss. But RF rotation now is pretty good, if you can wake up between 1 am and noon est, lol.

Were the forums this bad on sleeper, or fippy? I don't think so. I think they just give too much attention to the forums and trolls. I guess Sony was fine with how their game was, and now dbg inherits a game and has to be like WoW
 

ronne

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New rotation is a joke. Everyone enjoy your 1 rotation mob per week I guess. Personally I'll be in the odinsleep until kunark/december.
 

Thraka_sl

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Were the forums this bad on sleeper, or fippy? I don't think so. I think they just give too much attention to the forums and trolls. I guess Sony was fine with how their game was, and now dbg inherits a game and has to be like WoW
The drama and craziness that you see right now is nothing in comparison to what Fippy was; I feel like Ragefire is extremely tame.
 

Zaide

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I don't know if this will last past kunark. You guys are nuts wanting to have six months of this shit. If kunark doesn't change then who the hell wants to keep playing this shit. Next they'll add in PNP and camps, that'll be something. I'm surprised that's the one thing they have let continue, KSing. It seems necessary though with all the box crews if you couldn't KS then you'd never get a camp. But then again it's because of KS that I've built a bigger box crew
DBG has a pretty predictable formula. They identify the loudest/angriest group of players and then provide that group with "We can't do anything" for a few weeks before finally providing them with whatever ends up being the laziest "solution" they can think of.

I'm kind of wondering, what happens if some guilds really just say "Fuck this noise" and do their own thing regardless of the rotation rules and all this insanity. Will DBG follow through and keep up with the complaints and suspend/ban players?
 

Thraka_sl

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I'm kind of wondering, what happens if some guilds really just say "Fuck this noise" and do their own thing regardless of the rotation rules and all this insanity. Will DBG follow through and keep up with the complaints and suspend/ban players?
Yes they will, ragefire has a private PM section set up with all major guild leaders and Roshen. Roshen actually asked us to discuss how punishment should be handled to one guild that broke the rotation.
 

Zaide

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Yes they will, ragefire has a private PM section set up with all major guild leaders and Roshen. Roshen actually asked us to discuss how punishment should be handled to one guild that broke the rotation.
They actually found the laziest way to punish players... They're letting other players vote on the punishment. This is not real life.
 

lost

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Meanwhile if you change your surname to rotationsaregay it's a standard 7 day suspension, lol. Ha but did SOE listen much to fippy
 

Creslin

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They actually found the laziest way to punish players... They're letting other players vote on the punishment. This is not real life.
All because they want to preserve the classic feel of having no instances, thank god Holly has failed her way up far enough to be in charge of a game, stupid complicated rotations and half assed rules sure preserve that competitive feel.
 

Vaclav

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They actually found the laziest way to punish players... They're letting other players vote on the punishment. This is not real life.
A fundamental part of why I think them being player monitored and maintained is terribly flawed. Rumormilling could have just as much punishment and thus effect as actual trouble causing. It's ludicrous.
 

Vaclav

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Meanwhile if you change your surname to rotationsaregay it's a standard 7 day suspension, lol. Ha but did SOE listen much to fippy
Pretty sure only one part is an issue for the suspension there - I was wearing Rotationhate or something like that for my last couple days before I let my sub lapse and was hanging out in EC full time liquidating and didn't get a peep.
 

alavaz

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If the nobox BS works out right then maybe they could do FiF with a PNP. I'm assuming the reason FiF won't work now is because of the 12-box socks?
 

Zaide

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FiF requires GM intervention at almost every raid encounter. Also people will come to a mob, lose it and NEVER LEAVE until the next spawn to ensure they have FiF. Guess who did that last time?
 

Creslin

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so if they are pushing this 50% melee buff thing live, melee are going to destroy every parse as soon as kunark starts and casters won't see even come close to matching them until like the buried sea 6 years from now. GG DBG, the raid balance on fippy after classic was actually pretty decent between the classes, glad that they are gonna manage to completely ruin that.
 

alavaz

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FiF requires GM intervention at almost every raid encounter. Also people will come to a mob, lose it and NEVER LEAVE until the next spawn to ensure they have FiF. Guess who did that last time?
Even if there had to be a player behind every 1-2 accounts? On top of that, wouldn't it leave other targets open if some guild wanted to sock a specific mob for the whole window?

I don't particularly care, just curious. I always enjoyed the way FiF used to work where you pulled, got an uncontested shot, then the next force took it if you failed. I totally understand why it wouldn't work in the land of 12box socking, but thought maybe it would work out better with the nobox server.
 

Zaide

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I don't think enforced no boxing would result in no socks. People will just always resort to socking, even when it's obviously self destructive long term.