NFL 2014 Off-Season Thread
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Good luck with Mr. Glass. He's not quite Vick, but the dude couldn't stay healthy for shit in San Fran.
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Competition Committee announces new rule, bylaw proposals | ProFootballTalk
Rule change proposals:
1. Move the kickoff to the 40-yard line.
2. Expand instant replay to include personal foul penalties.
3. Eliminate overtime in the preseason.
4. Extend the goal posts an additional five feet above the cross bar.
5. Move the line of scrimmage for extra points to the defensive team?s 25-yard line.
6. Put six cameras on all boundary lines ? sideline, goal line, end line, to guarantee coverage for replay reviews.
7. Permit a coach to challenge any official?s decision, except scoring plays which are automatically reviewed.
8. Protect players from getting the sides of their legs rolled up on ? the rule already says a blocker can?t hit an opponent in the back of the legs, this proposal will add ?or side? to the rule.
9. Allow the referee to consult with members of the NFL officiating department during replay reviews. The referee would be able to speak with the command center in New York to help in reviewing a play.
10. Re-organize the rules about what can be reviewed and what cannot be reviewed, including making the recovery of a loose ball in the field of play reviewable. (This is referred to as the NaVorro Bowman rule, after a controversial call in the NFC Championship Game.)
11. Don?t stop the clock on a sack.
12. Modify pass interference so that it can be called within one yard of the line of scrimmage.
13. Enforce defensive fouls behind the line of scrimmage from the previous spot, rather than from the end of the run or from the spot of the foul.
Bylaw proposals:
1. Raise the number of active players on game day from 46 to 49 for regular-season games played on a day other than Sunday or Monday, excluding Week One.
2. Raise the practice squad limit from eight players to 10 players.
3. Permit clubs to trade players prior to the start of the league year.
4. Eliminate the cut-down to 75 players during training camp and instead just have one cut-down from 90 players to 53 players.
5. Permit more than one player to return to the active list from injured reserve so that any player on injured reserve could return after six weeks.
6. Permit each club to time and test up to 10 players at its facility, and allow other clubs to attend timing and testing at another team?s facility.
7. Adjust the time of the roster reduction from 53 after the fourth preseason game from 6 p.m. Eastern to 4 p.m. Eastern. All teams would have to have their list of final cuts in by 4 p.m.
Resolution proposal:
1. Permit a home team with a retractable roof to open or close its roof at halftime, instead of having to determine at the start of the game whether it is open or closed.
1. Move the kickoff to the 40-yard line.
2. Expand instant replay to include personal foul penalties.
3. Eliminate overtime in the preseason.
4. Extend the goal posts an additional five feet above the cross bar.
5. Move the line of scrimmage for extra points to the defensive team?s 25-yard line.
6. Put six cameras on all boundary lines ? sideline, goal line, end line, to guarantee coverage for replay reviews.
7. Permit a coach to challenge any official?s decision, except scoring plays which are automatically reviewed.
8. Protect players from getting the sides of their legs rolled up on ? the rule already says a blocker can?t hit an opponent in the back of the legs, this proposal will add ?or side? to the rule.
9. Allow the referee to consult with members of the NFL officiating department during replay reviews. The referee would be able to speak with the command center in New York to help in reviewing a play.
10. Re-organize the rules about what can be reviewed and what cannot be reviewed, including making the recovery of a loose ball in the field of play reviewable. (This is referred to as the NaVorro Bowman rule, after a controversial call in the NFC Championship Game.)
11. Don?t stop the clock on a sack.
12. Modify pass interference so that it can be called within one yard of the line of scrimmage.
13. Enforce defensive fouls behind the line of scrimmage from the previous spot, rather than from the end of the run or from the spot of the foul.
Bylaw proposals:
1. Raise the number of active players on game day from 46 to 49 for regular-season games played on a day other than Sunday or Monday, excluding Week One.
2. Raise the practice squad limit from eight players to 10 players.
3. Permit clubs to trade players prior to the start of the league year.
4. Eliminate the cut-down to 75 players during training camp and instead just have one cut-down from 90 players to 53 players.
5. Permit more than one player to return to the active list from injured reserve so that any player on injured reserve could return after six weeks.
6. Permit each club to time and test up to 10 players at its facility, and allow other clubs to attend timing and testing at another team?s facility.
7. Adjust the time of the roster reduction from 53 after the fourth preseason game from 6 p.m. Eastern to 4 p.m. Eastern. All teams would have to have their list of final cuts in by 4 p.m.
Resolution proposal:
1. Permit a home team with a retractable roof to open or close its roof at halftime, instead of having to determine at the start of the game whether it is open or closed.
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Fuck yes, this needs to happen. Personal fouls and pass interference penalties are too gamechanging, and get fucked up by officials far too much. This needs to be changed before now. Whitner got something like 5 personal foul penalties last year and I don't think he got fined for a single one after they reviewed them. I agree with all of those proposed game-time changes.
It's only pass interference if the ball is in the air. Seems like it would basically remove the 5 yard illegal contact buffer if the ball is thrown right after the snap.
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I'm going to respond to all of them. Because I'm bored.
Rule change proposals:
1. Move the kickoff to the 40-yard line.
Why even have kickoffs at this point?
2. Expand instant replay to include personal foul penalties.
Sure
3. Eliminate overtime in the preseason.
Obviously.
4. Extend the goal posts an additional five feet above the cross bar.
The Adam Carolla rule? Yeah, seems obvious.
5. Move the line of scrimmage for extra points to the defensive team's 25-yard line.
Their half-assed solution to the imaginary Extra Point controversy. Move the fucking 2 pt conversion up to the 1 yard line already.
6. Put six cameras on all boundary lines - sideline, goal line, end line, to guarantee coverage for replay reviews.
How in the fuck was this not already a thing? Every time there was a controversy about whether a ball crossed the line or not it was shocking to me how they didn't already have this. Also add a little camera to the pylons facing up.
7. Permit a coach to challenge any official's decision, except scoring plays which are automatically reviewed.
Duh
8. Protect players from getting the sides of their legs rolled up on - the rule already says a blocker can't hit an opponent in the back of the legs, this proposal will add "or side" to the rule.
Not sure how far they're gonna go with this. Sucks when your 1st round pick gets his knee wrecked from this, but you can only regulate so much.
9. Allow the referee to consult with members of the NFL officiating department during replay reviews. The referee would be able to speak with the command center in New York to help in reviewing a play.
Allow? Fucking require. Go full NHL with this shit. Otherwise it's just going to lead to replays where they decide not to consult and then the new controversy will be about why they didn't.
10. Re-organize the rules about what can be reviewed and what cannot be reviewed, including making the recovery of a loose ball in the field of play reviewable. (This is referred to as the NaVorro Bowman rule, after a controversial call in the NFC Championship Game.)
It's probably a big comfort to him that he'll get his name on this rule=P Make it so. And on the subject of fumble recoveries: Give the refs cattle prods for the retarded fucking piles that go on for a full minute after the play is over. Taze motherfuckers.
11. Don't stop the clock on a sack.
Seems obvious. Make it so.
12. Modify pass interference so that it can be called within one yard of the line of scrimmage.
Wait, what? This is a thing? Like, there's no PI on a quick screen play?
13. Enforce defensive fouls behind the line of scrimmage from the previous spot, rather than from the end of the run or from the spot of the foul.
Hmmm, I think I like this. Not sure how often this comes in to play, but it just seems logical. Plus anything that takes judgment out of it is great.
Bylaw proposals:
1. Raise the number of active players on game day from 46 to 49 for regular-season games played on a day other than Sunday or Monday, excluding Week One.
Makes perfect sense to me.
2. Raise the practice squad limit from eight players to 10 players.
Sure!
3. Permit clubs to trade players prior to the start of the league year.
Yeah! More offseason fun!!
4. Eliminate the cut-down to 75 players during training camp and instead just have one cut-down from 90 players to 53 players.
Ummm, I guess. Gives 15 more guys a chance to keep auditioning for the league a little bit longer.
5. Permit more than one player to return to the active list from injured reserve so that any player on injured reserve could return after six weeks.
Yes, what the fuck? Why would they limit IR returns???
6. Permit each club to time and test up to 10 players at its facility, and allow other clubs to attend timing and testing at another team's facility.
What, like for pre-draft workouts? Sure, if nothing else it will be funny to see how the Patriots find a way to cheat at this.
7. Adjust the time of the roster reduction from 53 after the fourth preseason game from 6 p.m. Eastern to 4 p.m. Eastern. All teams would have to have their list of final cuts in by 4 p.m.
Why? Is this just a media thing or what?
Resolution proposal:
1. Permit a home team with a retractable roof to open or close its roof at halftime, instead of having to determine at the start of the game whether it is open or closed.
Absolutely not. You don't get to just decide to change the game environment mid-game. I mean, unless it's something both coaches have to agree on. Because then I want to have controversies about visiting coaches roofblocking and shit. That would be awesome.
Rule change proposals:
1. Move the kickoff to the 40-yard line.
Why even have kickoffs at this point?
2. Expand instant replay to include personal foul penalties.
Sure
3. Eliminate overtime in the preseason.
Obviously.
4. Extend the goal posts an additional five feet above the cross bar.
The Adam Carolla rule? Yeah, seems obvious.
5. Move the line of scrimmage for extra points to the defensive team's 25-yard line.
Their half-assed solution to the imaginary Extra Point controversy. Move the fucking 2 pt conversion up to the 1 yard line already.
6. Put six cameras on all boundary lines - sideline, goal line, end line, to guarantee coverage for replay reviews.
How in the fuck was this not already a thing? Every time there was a controversy about whether a ball crossed the line or not it was shocking to me how they didn't already have this. Also add a little camera to the pylons facing up.
7. Permit a coach to challenge any official's decision, except scoring plays which are automatically reviewed.
Duh
8. Protect players from getting the sides of their legs rolled up on - the rule already says a blocker can't hit an opponent in the back of the legs, this proposal will add "or side" to the rule.
Not sure how far they're gonna go with this. Sucks when your 1st round pick gets his knee wrecked from this, but you can only regulate so much.
9. Allow the referee to consult with members of the NFL officiating department during replay reviews. The referee would be able to speak with the command center in New York to help in reviewing a play.
Allow? Fucking require. Go full NHL with this shit. Otherwise it's just going to lead to replays where they decide not to consult and then the new controversy will be about why they didn't.
10. Re-organize the rules about what can be reviewed and what cannot be reviewed, including making the recovery of a loose ball in the field of play reviewable. (This is referred to as the NaVorro Bowman rule, after a controversial call in the NFC Championship Game.)
It's probably a big comfort to him that he'll get his name on this rule=P Make it so. And on the subject of fumble recoveries: Give the refs cattle prods for the retarded fucking piles that go on for a full minute after the play is over. Taze motherfuckers.
11. Don't stop the clock on a sack.
Seems obvious. Make it so.
12. Modify pass interference so that it can be called within one yard of the line of scrimmage.
Wait, what? This is a thing? Like, there's no PI on a quick screen play?
13. Enforce defensive fouls behind the line of scrimmage from the previous spot, rather than from the end of the run or from the spot of the foul.
Hmmm, I think I like this. Not sure how often this comes in to play, but it just seems logical. Plus anything that takes judgment out of it is great.
Bylaw proposals:
1. Raise the number of active players on game day from 46 to 49 for regular-season games played on a day other than Sunday or Monday, excluding Week One.
Makes perfect sense to me.
2. Raise the practice squad limit from eight players to 10 players.
Sure!
3. Permit clubs to trade players prior to the start of the league year.
Yeah! More offseason fun!!
4. Eliminate the cut-down to 75 players during training camp and instead just have one cut-down from 90 players to 53 players.
Ummm, I guess. Gives 15 more guys a chance to keep auditioning for the league a little bit longer.
5. Permit more than one player to return to the active list from injured reserve so that any player on injured reserve could return after six weeks.
Yes, what the fuck? Why would they limit IR returns???
6. Permit each club to time and test up to 10 players at its facility, and allow other clubs to attend timing and testing at another team's facility.
What, like for pre-draft workouts? Sure, if nothing else it will be funny to see how the Patriots find a way to cheat at this.
7. Adjust the time of the roster reduction from 53 after the fourth preseason game from 6 p.m. Eastern to 4 p.m. Eastern. All teams would have to have their list of final cuts in by 4 p.m.
Why? Is this just a media thing or what?
Resolution proposal:
1. Permit a home team with a retractable roof to open or close its roof at halftime, instead of having to determine at the start of the game whether it is open or closed.
Absolutely not. You don't get to just decide to change the game environment mid-game. I mean, unless it's something both coaches have to agree on. Because then I want to have controversies about visiting coaches roofblocking and shit. That would be awesome.
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I don't have any issues with any of them except that pass interference within 1 yard of the LoS. Do we really need to further pussify the defense and allow offenses to do whatever the hell they want? I think the 5 yard rule is fine.
I'm curious about #2 regarding personal foul replays. Does that mean if they're reviewing something else and they see one, that they can call it? Or is this basically just reviewing personal foul calls that have already taken place? I think it's ridiculous that they can look at a replay and see a blatent call and not be able to include it because it was missed originally.
And yeah, #6 baffles me. It's 2014 in one of the richest sports leagues on the planet, and we don't have cameras on the fucking goal line? Seriously? They should really just put one on the end of every upright for kicks too. They don't have to be high resolution for television, just good enough to actually see a ball.
Edit: Fuck, I basically just agree with everything Grimm said (for the most part).
I'm curious about #2 regarding personal foul replays. Does that mean if they're reviewing something else and they see one, that they can call it? Or is this basically just reviewing personal foul calls that have already taken place? I think it's ridiculous that they can look at a replay and see a blatent call and not be able to include it because it was missed originally.
And yeah, #6 baffles me. It's 2014 in one of the richest sports leagues on the planet, and we don't have cameras on the fucking goal line? Seriously? They should really just put one on the end of every upright for kicks too. They don't have to be high resolution for television, just good enough to actually see a ball.
Edit: Fuck, I basically just agree with everything Grimm said (for the most part).