NFL 2014 Off-Season Thread

Merrith

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Tim Brown should be getting more consideration in my opinion. 9 straight seasons over 1,000 yards receiving from '93-'01. Still 5th on the all time receptions list despite not playing past '04.
 

Phazael

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The more I think about it, the more comfortable I am with the Bears signing Cutler. Last year was the most high powered offense in the Bears history. The only team that scored more points than they did were the Broncos. Yeah, he isn't the greatest quarterback and he wont air it out for 300+ yards each game, but the offense isn't the problem in Chicago. Cutler offers them stability and reliability.

Their offseason focus in terms of free agency and draft should be 100% focused on shoring up that god awful defense. Almost every pick in the draft should be a defensive player. Can't be any worse than what we got already.
Its thinking like this that landed you that seatbelt avatar last season. Even if we accept that Cutler's numbers are stable (and, frankly, they have been all over the place but I can put that down to the revolving door at OC), reliable is a big stretch. Notorious late game picks aside, his play is pretty pedestrian when you consider the shitty defenses he faced this year. He has nearly the same TD to TO ratio and passer rating as Flynn did this season. Not what I would be tying up cap money on, especially as a new coach. Yeah McCown is old, but this team needs a serious rebuild right now and the next set of viable QB prospects are likely to be seen in the 2015 draft. To me, it would make much more sense to retain McCown, tag and trade Cutler, and draft a solid rookie in two years and let him hold the clipboard behind McCown for a year before taking over and putting McCown out to pasture. As you pointed out, you need at least two years to retool the defense (and likely parts of the O-Line), anyhow, and shelling out big bucks to Jay is only going to make that harder down the road. Also, Packers are pretty much going to be going for exactly the same positions in the draft (as will the Steelers, Ravens, and Vikes), so Linemen on both sides of the ball are going to be a thin commodity and one that takes a year or two to develop to NFL level, anyhow.

The biggest thing here is the ability to sign descent FA. Packers simply won't because Ted does not hire guys on FA unless you hold a soldering iron to his balls, but that may happen this year in the defensive backfield, given the massive dropoff we saw this season after Ted cut Woodson lose. We need a leadership guy with better field awareness than Hawk calling the plays back there and Williams is going to want to take us to the cleaners with his next contract. Bears are kind of in the same situation, but much more likely to dip into free agency (and a little better at it). But if I am a veteran DB and have to options with tight cap situations, with those options being Rodgers or Cutler, who do you think I am going be more likely to sign with? That, to me, is the main problem with the Cutler contract and (no matter how minor) it fucks them down the road like Flacco's did for the Ravens, though at least the Ravens have a ring to show for their folly.

And yeah Brando, all the Bears had to do was win one game against a sub 500 team in their own house to get into the playoffs. A team without half of its starting defense and a third of its starting offense, yet that still managed to convert four 4th downs in the last drive to secure the win. I have a hard time imagining a more favorable scenario than that for the Bears, but we have been in this dance before where all they had to do was get by the Packers to advance (with Cutler, no less) and its always played out the same way. I personally did not want the Packers in the playoffs this year and think Rodgers was stupid for risking his entire career coming back this soon, but on the other hand at least we made the SF game look close and stopped the dumpster fire that is the Bears current team from making our division look bad with another 40-10 playoff "classic", like the Lions had been doing recently.
 

Kirun

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Does Lynch have amazing numbers? I don't really remember him being an overly fantastic player. Just a guy who played on some great defenses and hit pretty hard. There's no way in hell he should get in over guys like Greene, Haley, Brown, and Harrison.
 

Abefroman

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Enough with the McCown shit. There is no downside to the Cutler signing or the Bears starting Cutler down the stretch. Do some of you even understand the salary cap?
 

Gravy

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Sterling and Merrith each had one on my list:

Ray Guy
Tim Brown
Will Shields

What the fuck is wrong with me, picking not one, but two Raiders?
 

Gravy

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Enough with the McCown shit.There is no downside to the Cutler signingor the Bears starting Cutler down the stretch. Do some of you even understand the salary cap?
But... it's Cutler. And no, I really don't understand the salary cap. Does it magically make Cutler better when he wears it?
 

Gankak

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If I were voting:
Derrick Brooks
Marvin Harrison
John Lynch
Will Shields
Ray Guy

Then maybe Greene and/or Haley depending on how the wind is blowing that day.
Travesty that Walter Jones isn't on your list. Probably the best LT to play the game ever.
 

opiate82

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Travesty that Walter Jones isn't on your list. Probably the best LT to play the game ever.
Didn't he have some ridiculous stat that he averaged giving up less than two sacks a season over his career?

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Starting in each of his 180 games in Seattle, the Seahawks attempted more than 5,500 passes with Jones on the field, while Jones gave up a total of only 23 quarterback sacks, and was penalized for holding just nine times.
 

Alex

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Travesty that Walter Jones isn't on your list.Probably the best LT to play the game ever.
Nah.

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Man0warr

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Munoz best LT of all time, but Larry Allen is the best offensive linemen all time. All-Pro at Guard and Tackle, and played every position but Center.
 

Asshat Brando

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Yeah, so favorable that Chicago fielded one of the worst defenses of all time yet you're talking like converting those 4th downs was some miracle. Here's some actual facts, which you seem to have no clue on, in that the Bears D for the last 5 games of the regular season surrendered over 7yrds on average per 1st down play. That is over a yard worse than any other team and it's hard to fathom that 11 actual NFL caliber players could let this happen. Cutler, McCown, Grossman, or fucking Sid Luckman were not saving this Bears season.

What cap figures are you referencing? Pretty sure we're going to be in the top 10 in cap space available even with the Cutler extension. Of course I'm assuming you know what you're talking about, in all probability that is false.
 

Ambiturner

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Enough with the McCown shit. There is no downside to the Cutler signing or the Bears starting Cutler down the stretch. Do some of you even understand the salary cap?
Not sure what your point here is. He's making slightly less than Manning or Brees while not being nearly as productive. His contract is the opposite of most huge contracts and he's guaranteed the first 3 years while giving no signing bonus. It still leaves them handcuffed to him until '17. It's definitely better than Flacco's, but don't think it's worth it for a guy that was outplayed by a 60 year old career backup
 

Alex

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Bengals fans tell me about Mike Zimmer.
He's fucking awesome and I'll be bummed if the Vikings get him - which is pretty likely at this point. Fucking Seahawks and 49ers winning. I was hoping Vikings would take Greg Roman. I just have no idea who Zimmer would choose to be his coordinators. Hue Jackson was his OC candidate and now he's staying with the Bengals. Paul Guenther is his likely DC choice, but he'll probably become the Bengals DC if Zimmer takes the HC job. I'm holding out hope that the Vikings will wait until next week so they can interview Roman a second time. The Vikings really need someone who can develop a QB.
 

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Bengals fans tell me about Mike Zimmer.
He pretty consistently puts together top defenses in the league, which is good but he does it with a motley bunch. Bengals fans love him because he consistently gets more out of cast offs, has beens, and never weres than you ever thought possible. The Bengals had a top 5 defense this year with Pacman Jones and Terrance Newman as the starting corners. That's fucking ridiculous.

He has been good for a long time, but no one has hired him because he doesn't politic well. When he's been brought in for interviews in the past he's told management that they need a new coach in part because they've been shit at their jobs. That kind of honesty is why players fucking love the guy. He creates a cohesive unit that fights for each other and bring the best out of each other.

You never know how well coordinators are going to make the jump to HC, but his style is as likely to succeed as anyone.
 

Alex

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/r/nfl/ seems to think that the Bengals will be the Falcons/Texans of the 2014 season. That makes me sad.
 

Slaythe

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He's fucking awesome and I'll be bummed if the Vikings get him - which is pretty likely at this point. Fucking Seahawks and 49ers winning. I was hoping Vikings would take Greg Roman. I just have no idea who Zimmer would choose to be his coordinators. Hue Jackson was his OC candidate and now he's staying with the Bengals. Paul Guenther is his likely DC choice, but he'll probably become the Bengals DC if Zimmer takes the HC job. I'm holding out hope that the Vikings will wait until next week so they can interview Roman a second time. The Vikings really need someone who can develop a QB.
The QB comment is true, man, but our defense overall is equally as bad. It's always nice to hear fans not wanting to see someone go. That's always a good sign. Up here we dealt with that when Tomlin left us for the Steelers.