NFL 2015-2016 Season Thread
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Merrith
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Yeah the idea of checking which offenses each team played has some merit, but Genj also pointed out the flaw in that argument in that teams can't help who they play really.
I will note that as dominant as the 2000 Ravens' D was, they had their share of good fortune against Tennessee in the divisional round. Dilfer was 5 for 16, Ravens only had 134 yards of offense total, but won 24-10 on the strength of a blocked field goal returned 90 yards for a TD and a Ray Lewis 50 yard pick 6. Titans kicker (Del Greco) also had 2 FG attempts before halftime in that game missing one and having another blocked as well.
I definitely had to troll a buddy of mine last night when they flagged Norman for holding to give Denver a 1st down after which Anderson ran it in to make it a 2 score game. Told him that Jim Harbaugh and Crabtree were screaming murder after seeing that holding get called late in the Super Bowl.
Phazael
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The 2k Ravens was an amazing D, but they also faced arguably one of the weakest schedules of any SB team in the modern era. They also did not stay relevant past a year or two the way the Steel Curtain (and Purple People Eaters) did. Seattle might make it into that category, but its hard to keep a great D intact these days once Free Agency hits.
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Xevy
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Unfortunately, completely accurate. Indy has had pieces of a good defense or just no defense at all since basically 2007. Him + any sort of workable offense + a super defense = wins. Indy just never could build that team. Mostly because Peyton would make receivers look damn good and they'd drain them of money during contract time.
Though let's be honest, I think everyone would've loved to see a fucking offensive showdown with a 42-53 score or some shit in the Super Bowl instead.
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Genjiro
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I know looking past the face value of anything is hard for your brain to wrap around, especially judging from your dumb shit you post in every different thread here.
In your little brain, a team who plays really bad offenses for the majority of their schedule is = to a team who lost their franchise QB week 1 of that year and played the majority of the top offenses in the league and still put up great numbers.
Literally no difference there.
You should kill yourself.
Merrith
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Ravens divisional opponents definitely hurt the overall strength of offenses they faced. Cincy and Cleveland were bottom 2 in scoring and they accounted for a quarter of their opponents in the regular season. Steelers were also in the bottom half of the league. Jacksonville and Tennessee (remember old divisions) were both in the top half.
Although in the playoffs they played 4 teams that were all in the top half of the league, including the #2 and #3 overall (who they held to 6 points combined). If the Vikings hadn't completely shat the bed in the NFC title game while Kerry Collins played the game of his life, we could have seen the Ravens against the #5 offense in the Super Bowl (Vikings). Either way, playing the 4 that they did and holding them all to 23 points combined isn't that bad.
Ambiturner
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lol you probably think Trent Dilfer was a franchise QB and that he started the season as the starter. 4 other teams allowed fewer points than the Eagles that season. The Ravens allowed the fewest in history.
And seriously, bad offenses? You do realize the Ravens held the #1 rushing offense to 17 rushing yards and 3 points, right? Come back when you know wtf you're talking about.
Genjiro
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'The National Football League regular season begins the weekend after Labor Day in early September and ends in December or early January. It consists of 256 games, where each team plays 16 games during a 17-week period."
Here's a list of the offensive ranks the Ravens played against in 2000
8th
8th
13th
13th
16th
17th
17th
17th
23rd
24th
26th
29th
30th
30th
31st (last)
31st (last)
Now genius, compare it to what the Eagles faced in 1991
1st
1st
3rd
4th
7th
7th
8th
16th
17th
19th
19th
22nd
23rd
26th
27th
27th
2 top 10 offenses vs 7........including the number 1 team twice that year. CLEARLY SIMILAR.
Ambiturner
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Alright, done arguing with you because you're retarded and don't know shit about shit. Just know that ignoring their absolutely ridiculous playoff run makes you dumber than some of the Pats fans. There's also the fact that the Ravens division also had Titans with #2 defense and Steelers with the #9 defense. That's going to seriously hurt the offense rank of your opponents when they're all playing 4-6 games against the top defenses.
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Genjiro
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Yea, and Philly had a brutal schedule in 1991. Keep in mind in 1990 with Randal Cunningham the Eagles offense finished 3rd that year in scoring. Then went to 21st the next year in 1991 when his acl got torn week 1.
As far as defense and a tough division? Are you fucking dumb?
Do you know who won the Super Bowl in 1991? The Redskins? Who had the top ranked offense and 2nd ranked defense in the league that year and they played them twice?
Fuck. Like taking candy from a retarded baby.
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As far as defense and a tough division? Are you fucking dumb?
Do you know who won the Super Bowl in 1991? The Redskins? Who had the top ranked offense and 2nd ranked defense in the league that year and they played them twice?
Fuck. Like taking candy from a retarded baby.
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Merrith
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Say it again. It's getting to have been so long I almost don't remember it. Plus he's a Cowboys fan.
Genjiro
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Well yea its a given no Cowboys fan will give the Eagles props.
And obviously the 2000 Ravens are in the discussion, and what they did during their playoff run was very impressive. I do think the Eagles team of 1991 if they have a healthy Cunningham could have won it all that year, I mean hell they were 3rd the year before in scoring. Crazy how good that division was in those days with the Giants, Skins, Cowboys all winning SBs and the Eagles having that defense.
Also for those Football Outsiders stats groupies like Grimm, this was on the wikipedia.
Definitely hard to judge with football in different eras. I tend to divide things up in the pre and post salary cap eras because the rules were so different, and teams like the 70s Steelers, 80s Niners, and early 90s Cowboys would be broken up by free agency and the inability to basically sign all-star teams. Reading some stuff on the dominant defenses is pretty interesting.
This little blurb on the 76 Steel Curtain was pretty insane too, when once they lost Bradshaw early for most of the regular season decided the defense was going to have to win.