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As far as Top-end teams are concerned, I disagree. I think Rodgers being out, Seattle being a shell of themselves, Cowboys possibly missing the postseason due to the Zeke suspension, will probably field a lower quality NFC team.

Not to take away from what the Vikings and Rams have done etc.
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"not to take away from what the Vikings and Rams have done"?

Straight up, only 2 teams in AFC (New England and Pittsburgh) probably even match up with the top 5 (maybe even 6) in the NFC. Philly, Minnesota, New Orleans, Rams, Carolina...then Seattle or Atlanta?

Or was this a "I'm a Cowboys fan and don't realize they're mediocre this year and don't want to give credit to the other teams" post bro?
 
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Smith on the Bench is brutal. My buddy played Goff over him although didn't hurt him at all, his opponent only has 55 points with just Pitt's D to play. But my buddy might have an all time bench this week. Alex Smith, Alex Collins, Rex Burkhead, and Evan Engram.
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Wow that's brutal.

I'm up 128.08-122.44 right now. Opponent has Juju going tomorrow. I'll probably lose. Hopefully I can hang onto a top two seed. Regardless, I'm getting high score of the season which is $100.
 
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As far as Top-end teams are concerned, I disagree. I think Rodgers being out, Seattle being a shell of themselves, Cowboys possibly missing the postseason due to the Zeke suspension, will probably field a lower quality NFC team. Not to take away from what the Vikings and Rams have done etc.

Not that this is a bad thing, the added parity is awesome. But I doubt there are any, truly historically phenomenal teams this year.
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This is a really dumb post. There aren't any truly historically phenomenal teams almost every year. The Pats are the only one right now. The NFC is stacked while some shit 8-8 team will get into the AFC wild card.
 
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Wow that's brutal.

I'm up 128.08-122.44 right now. Opponent has Juju going tomorrow. I'll probably lose. Hopefully I can hang onto a top two seed. Regardless, I'm getting high score of the season which is $100.
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He's fine, he's still winning 113-56 with Antonio Brown against Pitt's D tomorrow. I mean, his bench is absolutely nuts, but it wasn't like he lost a TON of points overall save at QB. He still had Gurley and Lynch start for him (only about -8 total from Collins/Burkhead)...although he could have benched Hunt for one of them. Also he still had Walker at TE so only lost about 4.5 having Engram on his bench. His opponent literally did nothing all day, and even left Adrian Peterson in despite being out today.
 
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Just putting this here.

Perhaps some of you have been to the Pontiac Silverdome. Well they tried to demolish it but.....

 
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This is a really dumb post. There aren't any truly historically phenomenal teams almost every year. The Pats are the only one right now. The NFC is stacked while some shit 8-8 team will get into the AFC wild card.
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While I agree in general, and while I hate to give the Ravens any credit (lord knows I wish Stafford had played 2 halves today and not gotten hurt)...they won't be an 8-8 team. They have a real shot to get to 10 wins depending on if they can beat your Bengals.
 
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This is a really dumb post. There aren't any truly historically phenomenal teams almost every year. The Pats are the only one right now. The NFC is stacked while some shit 8-8 team will get into the AFC wild card.
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Let me rephrase that: I firmly believe that there are no "great" teams in the NFL this year. Take the Super Bowl winner, whoever that might be this year, and I'd imagine they'd lose to last years Patriots/Falcons etc.

I don't think this batch of NFC teams are anywhere close to the NFC teams from '15. I mean, two "should" be postseason teams are missing undeniably two of the best players in the league.

So the parity is great and what not, but I seriously doubt this Eagles team is a #1 seed in most other years.
 
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Let me rephrase that: I firmly believe that there are no "great" teams in the NFL this year. Take the Super Bowl winner, whoever that might be this year, and I'd imagine they'd lose to last years Patriots/Falcons etc.

I don't think this batch of NFC teams are anywhere close to the NFC teams from '14. I mean, two "should" be postseason teams are missing undeniably two of the best players in the league.

So the parity is great and what not, but I seriously doubt this Eagles team is a #1 seed in most other years.
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I don't think the Cowboys are necessarily a "should" be postseason team. Also there won't be a 7-8-1 team in the playoffs from the NFC like there was in '14. I think there is a very good chance there are seven 10 win teams in the NFC this year. NFC is the strongest it has been in quite awhile this year.
 
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I don't think the Cowboys are necessarily a "should" be postseason team. Also there won't be a 7-8-1 team in the playoffs from the NFC like there was in '14. I think there is a very good chance there are seven 10 win teams in the NFC this year. NFC is the strongest it has been in quite awhile this year.
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That NFC South division sucked, but the other teams I think were hands down better. 3 12-win teams, 2 11-win teams, a 10-win team who missed the postseason. Due to injuries, comparing QB play in the postseason (Wilson, Rodgers, Romo etc compared to what appears to be Keenum, Wentz, Goff etc) and what not, I'd have to put my money on the 2014-15 teams.
 
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All the people talking shit about me not being completely sold on Wentz and the Eagles, sup?

They have peaked and will probably be 1 and done in playoffs.

Garoppogoat comes through with the win. Almost 300 yards passing against a stingy bears pass defense, and lead the winning drive.

The interception wasn't even his fault, so he played great. Only thing that is concerning is the team's inability to get the ball in the end zone.

But it was encouraging to see a 49er QB throw for 300 yards from the pocket, I haven't seen this type of play since Jeff Garcia.
 
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One minor quibble with the Eagles record, which happens alot in the nfl... they are potentially apaper tiger- lots of wins against BAD teams & might be a 1st seed and lose their 1st playoff game( not saying they will, but they might)

What good teams have They Beat? Heck what about the rest of the "best teams"

They are 10-2 they have beaten only one team that has a winning record Carolina. Every other teamthey have played is 500 or less. This year their schedule has ended up being very soft.

Patriots 2 teams
Steelers 3
Titans 2
Chiefs 2

Vikings 4 teams
Rams 2 teams
Saints 2 teams-panthers twice
Eagles 1

As you can see, Eagles are last in quality wins.
 
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That NFC South division sucked, but the other teams I think were hands down better. 3 12-win teams, 2 11-win teams, a 10-win team who missed the postseason. Due to injuries, comparing QB play in the postseason (Wilson, Rodgers, Romo etc compared to what appears to be Keenum, Wentz, Goff etc) and what not, I'd have to put my money on the 2014-15 teams.
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Ironically, the South is strong as shit this year. Only reason a 10 win team missed the postseason was because how weak the South was. I think it's likely we see a 13 game winner in the Eagles, and at least one other 12 game winner. Only thing stopping it from being more is that a lot of the top teams all play each other. Still think we might see seven 10 game winners, although the crazy schedules down the stretch might affect that.

Also, I know as a Dem Boyz fan you shit on Wentz and Philly, but they're just as good as any of the elite teams last couple years. Tough one tonight, but it was literally in the toughest building to play in, and they had some bad breaks go against them (fumble out of the end zone, non challenge that would have stopped a drive that ended in a TD for Seattle). Also all that said, Seattle isn't a shell of their former self, they're 8-4 and just beat the best team in the league. You list Romo in your QB trio, a guy with a 2-4 career playoff record. I think (Wentz, Wilson, Brees...yes, all 3 of them would be in as of now...could be as good or better as trio you listed). You also have potential to have Newton, or Ryan (maybe both)...and don't look now, but if Hundley can beat the Browns next week to get to 7-6, Rodgers could come back after that and run off 3 straight to get to 10 wins.

Also why the Goff hate? He's top 10 in a lot of categories and looks like a new QB under McVay.
 
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The NFL this year is being dominated by four specific NFC teams, one in each division. So when one of those teams beats another one, in convincing fashion, it's going to have a major effect on the Football Outsiders DVOA ratings.
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Rams #1 in DVOA last week and probably again this week I'd guess, they've been great on Offense, Defense, and Special Teams this year. 4 outta the top 5 teams in DVOA are in the NFC.

Vikings/Eagles/Rams/Saints all well rounded teams and then you have to look at Seattle, Carolina, and Atlanta (whom have all been to recent Superbowls) behind them.

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Ironically, the South is strong as shit this year. Only reason a 10 win team missed the postseason was because how weak the South was. I think it's likely we see a 13 game winner in the Eagles, and at least one other 12 game winner. Only thing stopping it from being more is that a lot of the top teams all play each other. Still think we might see seven 10 game winners, although the crazy schedules down the stretch might affect that.

Also, I know as a Dem Boyz fan you shit on Wentz and Philly, but they're just as good as any of the elite teams last couple years. Tough one tonight, but it was literally in the toughest building to play in, and they had some bad breaks go against them (fumble out of the end zone, non challenge that would have stopped a drive that ended in a TD for Seattle). Also all that said, Seattle isn't a shell of their former self, they're 8-4 and just beat the best team in the league. You list Romo in your QB trio, a guy with a 2-4 career playoff record. I think (Wentz, Wilson, Brees...yes, all 3 of them would be in as of now...could be as good or better as trio you listed). You also have potential to have Newton, or Ryan (maybe both)...and don't look now, but if Hundley can beat the Browns next week to get to 7-6, Rodgers could come back after that and run off 3 straight to get to 10 wins.

Also why the Goff hate? He's top 10 in a lot of categories and looks like a new QB under McVay.
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No way I'm comparing this Eagles team to the Seahawks teams of a few years ago, or even the Falcons team last year. I 100% believe they are a paper Tiger as L Lenardo 's post points out. I love Wentz, which hurts me to say, but if they win the #1 seed, I believe they are one of the weaker ones from recent memory. I absolutely stand by the point that the Seahawks are a lesser team than they have been. They are 8-4, and that's very impressive considering the circumstances, but no way they aren't a weaker team. Sherman out for the year, offensive line still sucks, run game isn't there. Whole "Legion of Boom" is essentially dead. That Seattle team is not the same team.

If Rodgers makes it back, and Green Bay secures a spot, would anyone be terribly surprised to see him roll through the NFC playoffs?

I mean shit, the Eagles looked like shit on offense today. Shit, even against the rookie squad Cowboys defense, for a half they didn't do shit. Luckily for them the Cowboys' offense with that retard Jason Garrett & Linehan, and minus-Zeke is absolutely horrifically bad.

And any QB list without Rodgers, I just can't get behind. This years best NFC teams are going to field: Keenum, Goff, Wentz etc. C'mon. Brees will probably make it in, but he is definitely a complimentary piece now to that two-headed Kamara-Ingram monster. Ryan might make the postseason, he isn't exactly playing great. Not even close to last year. And Goff has played well, but he hasn't been asked to do much of anything. That offense is definitely Gurley's doing, similar to Dak last year.
 
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All the people talking shit about me not being completely sold on Wentz and the Eagles, sup?

They have peaked and will probably be 1 and done in playoffs.

Garoppogoat comes through with the win. Almost 300 yards passing against a stingy bears pass defense, and lead the winning drive.

The interception wasn't even his fault, so he played great. Only thing that is concerning is the team's inability to get the ball in the end zone.

But it was encouraging to see a 49er QB throw for 300 yards from the pocket, I haven't seen this type of play since Blaine Gabbert.
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Only off by about 13 years or so
 
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One minor quibble with the Eagles record, which happens alot in the nfl... they are potentially apaper tiger- lots of wins against BAD teams & might be a 1st seed and lose their 1st playoff game( not saying they will, but they might)

What good teams have They Beat? Heck what about the rest of the "best teams"

They are 10-2 they have beaten only one team that has a winning record Carolina. Every other teamthey have played is 500 or less. This year their schedule has ended up being very soft.

Patriots 2 teams
Steelers 3
Titans 2
Chiefs 2

Vikings 4 teams
Rams 2 teams
Saints 2 teams-panthers twice
Eagles 1

As you can see, Eagles are last in quality wins.
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Eagles have only played 2 teams that had a winning record currently, though. 2nd one being tonight, in the toughest stadium to play in. Can't fault them for kicking the crap out of everyone else. "Quality wins" are nice, I mean I could point out the Redskins have 2 to Philly's 1, but they beat us both times we played them this year. Also they beat the Chargers who likely will end up with a winning record, Dallas might as well and Eagles will likely beat them twice, too.
 
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And Goff has played well, but he hasn't been asked to do much of anything.
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Blitz up here using the eye test and talking about the fucking past like it has any relevance to the present.
 
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If Dallas goes into that game with Zeke, and they need one win for that playoff birth, week 17 against the Sheagles. That team is getting shit on, whether they rest their players or not.
 
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