[NO Spoilers] Star Wars: Episode 7 - NO PUSSY SHIT

  • Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!



    Go here and give us your nominations!
    Who's been the biggest Asshat in the last year? Give us your worst ones!

Gavinmad

Mr. Poopybutthole
44,244
53,372
I just caught up on the last several pages and all I can say is:

OMG it's canon people, canon!

(Not just at j00t, several people did it and I had to wait to catch up to current before I could shoot my load!)
I've long since given up on that correction, but I'd seriously like to fire everyone who says cannon out of a canon.
 

Pancreas

Vyemm Raider
1,136
3,837
The only thing that could have saved the prequels is if George Lucas died in a car accident on May 26th, 1983
It has to bug Lucas just a little bit, maybe, that every time he takes full control of a project, it turns into unmitigated, rancid, shit. That's literally his "mark" on Hollywood. I mean I understand he is insulated by billions of Disney Dollars and probably many more from raping the dreams of schoolboys while they sleep or something, but when it all boils down, the guy is a total hack. Like the biggest hack in movie history; I guess that counts.

He was so obsessed with "cementing his world before it fell apart" that he never developed beyond the writing ability of a middle school dropout and fostered the artistic vision of a sea cucumber. The guy is a raging success by everyone's standard's but his own. He wanted to make experimental sci-fi movies once he made it big, but never found the talent or the time to do so. Despite all of that, he's not the sell-out like everyone claims. To be a sell-OUT you need to have some integrity to start with. Even prostitutes "sell-out" on their first night, after that they become just like Lucas... whores.
 

Cinge

Ahn'Qiraj Raider
7,360
2,430
It has to bug Lucas just a little bit, maybe, that every time he takes full control of a project, it turns into unmitigated, rancid, shit. That's literally his "mark" on Hollywood. I mean I understand he is insulated by billions of Disney Dollars and probably many more from raping the dreams of schoolboys while they sleep or something, but when it all boils down, the guy is a total hack. Like the biggest hack in movie history; I guess that counts.

He was so obsessed with "cementing his world before it fell apart" that he never developed beyond the writing ability of a middle school dropout and fostered the artistic vision of a sea cucumber. The guy is a raging success by everyone's standard's but his own. He wanted to make experimental sci-fi movies once he made it big, but never found the talent or the time to do so. Despite all of that, he's not the sell-out like everyone claims. To be a sell-OUT you need to have some integrity to start with. Even prostitutes "sell-out" on their first night, after that they become just like Lucas... whores.
How much was he responsible for Industrial Light & Magic? I could give credit there, since that part of the company has done a lot of good.
 

j00t

Silver Baronet of the Realm
7,380
7,481
I just caught up on the last several pages and all I can say is:

OMG it's canon people, canon!

(Not just at j00t, several people did it and I had to wait to catch up to current before I could shoot my load!)
Bleh... Sorry, I usually post on my phone and Swype chooses some words over others inexplicably. So canon is always cannon and you're is always your. If I'm not posting close enough attention I miss it

Edit: case in point...
 

Gamma Rays

Large sized member
4,052
9,726
Isn't there a bit by a comedian where he says he'd like to go back in time to the late '80s or early '90s and kill George Lucas.

And as far as directing, as in a good description of what they do. Terry Gillian said that he acts as a filter, that people come to him all day with clever ideas and suggestions and his role is to pick and chose what goes into the film.

It has been said many times in these pages that the original trilogy was great due to the efforts of Lucas' wife and the producers / editors etc
 

Hoss

Make America's Team Great Again
<Gold Donor>
27,978
16,652
Force unleashed 2 was all about cloning force users. It was regarded as a pretty rare accomplishment. The EU did it, but I don't think before force unleashed (timeline-wise).

And force unleashed is no longer cannon. It was honestly pretty borderline cannon even before lucas sold star wars. I enjoyed them for what they were, but they were written like fanfics
I don't know when the force unleashed was set, and a quick google search didn't turn up the answer. They were cloning force users from pretty early on in the EU. In Zahn's books, they had the clone of C'boath, and the emperor did that way back before episode 2, I think. If force unleashed is the one I'm thinking of, I think I read the first one and didn't bother with any more because it read like a walk through for a video game.
 

j00t

Silver Baronet of the Realm
7,380
7,481
Force unleashed is set in between the movie trilogies... Probably closer to a few years before a new hope. I thought that the emperor didn't clone himself until later in life, closer to empire... But I could be wrong. Same with c'boath. He would have been cloned right about or slightly after force unleashed occured.

I mean, I could totally be wrong, but I very distinctly remember the characters in tfu2 denying the ability to clone force users, and the plot revolves around it being an experiment. Vader had a legion of screwed up clones that you fight in the game. Now, I tend to not take what happened in tfu has eu fact just because of how over the top it was. I took the whole thing as just a cool what if story

Edit: hm. Just checked wookiepedia. I had my timing off. C'boath was cloned several years before starkiller was even born. So yeah... Force users being cloned adjust had been happening. Though, I assume it wasn't really public knowledge, so the characters would still think it wasn't possible. Vader, on the other hand, didn't have much reason to fail so many times
 

Vlett

Lord Nagafen Raider
817
69
The Rebel symbol comes from Starkiller's family crest. (Anti-hero of force unleashed) When the original kid dies the rebel leaders use his crest as kind of a homage for his sacrifice (If you beat the game Light side) The sequel is you playing his clone and then finding more clones. I was pretty sure the other EU books don't have any force-clones until after RotJ, but I guess that would make C'boath the experiment for what they originally used for Palpatine's cloning.

Even in the game the force clones were very unstable with bleeding memories and etc and I found that pretty consistent with the books.

Story aside, force pulling a Star Destroyer from orbit is one of the coolest things I've done on a console game. =)
 

supertouch_sl

shitlord
1,858
3
Speaking of The Force Unleashed, I'd really like to see Starkiller in a movie. He's one of the most powerful force users of all time and Sam Witwer did a great job depicting him.
 

Palum

what Suineg set it to
28,805
47,836
It has to bug Lucas just a little bit, maybe, that every time he takes full control of a project, it turns into unmitigated, rancid, shit. That's literally his "mark" on Hollywood. I mean I understand he is insulated by billions of Disney Dollars and probably many more from raping the dreams of schoolboys while they sleep or something, but when it all boils down, the guy is a total hack. Like the biggest hack in movie history; I guess that counts.

He was so obsessed with "cementing his world before it fell apart" that he never developed beyond the writing ability of a middle school dropout and fostered the artistic vision of a sea cucumber. The guy is a raging success by everyone's standard's but his own. He wanted to make experimental sci-fi movies once he made it big, but never found the talent or the time to do so. Despite all of that, he's not the sell-out like everyone claims. To be a sell-OUT you need to have some integrity to start with. Even prostitutes "sell-out" on their first night, after that they become just like Lucas... whores.
I'm curious, do you think George really knows how bad the prequels are? Or do you think he's still delusional and so surrounded by yes-men and money that he just assumes people are out to get him? I honestly haven't read/heard anything about him besides older documentaries and directly relating to filming the prequels.
 

Vlett

Lord Nagafen Raider
817
69
I'm curious, do you think George really knows how bad the prequels are? Or do you think he's still delusional and so surrounded by yes-men and money that he just assumes people are out to get him? I honestly haven't read/heard anything about him besides older documentaries and directly relating to filming the prequels.
I'm sure after the check Disney wrote cleared I'm sure at least one person there told him. The design moves that JJ as already let leak is pretty clear sign if nothing else.
 

Aaron

Goonsquad Officer
<Bronze Donator>
9,220
22,402
Regarding Lucas I always remember what someone once said about him: He's a master at creating fantastic universes filled with wonderful things, but he's a horrible story teller.
 

Royal

Connoisseur of Exotic Pictures
15,077
10,643
I'm curious, do you think George really knows how bad the prequels are? Or do you think he's still delusional and so surrounded by yes-men and money that he just assumes people are out to get him? I honestly haven't read/heard anything about him besides older documentaries and directly relating to filming the prequels.
I'm sure he thinks they're masterpieces and that the bulk of the long-time fans are too unsophisticated to appreciate them for what they are.
 

Conefed

Blackwing Lair Raider
2,850
1,702
I don't think he thinks they are good nor has he since the first private screening of his final edit. I do believe he's double and triple downed on not admitting mistakes and forcing others to believe even though he doesn't.
 

Royal

Connoisseur of Exotic Pictures
15,077
10,643
His problems go well beyond dialog. Red Letter Media really nailed the failings of those movies on almost every level. He lacks the fundamental understanding of what made the originals good.
 

ohkcrlho

Silver Baronet of the Realm
6,906
8,943
I don't think he thinks they are good nor has he since the first private screening of his final edit. I do believe he's double and triple downed on not admitting mistakes and forcing others to believe even though he doesn't.
You can see his and his team reactions after the first screening of phantom menace. They were like "oh yeah errr we have to err change some stuff and it's done" you could see they were so embarassed with the final result. fucking lol
 

Siliconemelons

Naxxramas 1.0 Raider
12,535
19,031
You can see his and his team reactions after the first screening of phantom menace. They were like "oh yeah errr we have to err change some stuff and it's done" you could see they were so embarassed with the final result. fucking lol
I always thought it was funny that all that made it to the behind the scenes DVD extras etc... you see lucas and his handlers sit down in his personal cinema, they give you 5-10min of him watching the movie and then his thoughts afterwards.. you can tell every single damn person in that room knew it was a pile- and when lucas asks one dude what he thought his face says "god kill me" and he says "its great!"