[NO Spoilers] Star Wars: Episode 7 - NO PUSSY SHIT

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j00t_sl said:
Ancient lightsabers needed a battery pack on a belt, so that is a nice touch. No idea on the quality of the writing though
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I was a little bothered that they didn't continue that in the other books. This Jedi came from around 5000 BBY. The only other books set in that time were the Lost Tribe of the Sith, and they didn't have battery belts for their lightsabers. In fact, they had lightsaber batteries that lasted 5000 years. It's possible they'll have them in the Dawn of the Jedi series (if they ever get lightsabers) and say the sith saber was just that much more advanced.
 
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Heard a rumor today that there will be a trailer for ep 7 in front of the hobbit. Anyone able to confirm?
 
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That's true, no reason for C'Boath to have been public knowledge. Vader probably didn't even know about him, it's not like Sith are open and honest with each other. Also, it should be noted that palpatine got (or at least tried to get) DNA samples from all the Jedi on outbound flight.

But, there were clones in another book, and while I don't remember the time period, they were definitely in a long abandoned Imperial research lab, so I assume they were from before the Emp died. Can't remember which book it was, so for all I know it was another force unleashed book and these are the same ones you're talking about. I recall these clones being sorta cray cray and possibly deformed. They had lightsabers, but the crystals were bad, so the blade was more like a flame. They needed some kind of medicine to stay alive, so when they managed to steal a ship, they headed to someplace they thought they could find medicine. Does any of that sound like the Force Unleashed stuff?
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Do you realize how fucking gay this sounds? Stealing DNA, light saber batteries, bad crystals? Thank God I never read these books.
 
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Miguex_sl said:
Heard a rumor today that there will be a trailer for ep 7 in front of the hobbit. Anyone able to confirm?
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i wasnt planning on seeing Hobbit 3: Electric Boogaloo in theaters, but if there is an IMAX star wars trailer... hmmmmmm.....
 
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The lightsaber batteries and bad crystals I can believe. The attached battery with cable makes sense and is sort of the only advance in tech you really see in the whole EU. Aesthetic's of weapons and ships may change but everyone uses hyperdrive's, everyone still does the Kessel Run, no one has explored past the rim or really advanced tech much in 5000 years. We got wireless lightsabers in 5000 years. *nods*

The crystals have to be just right and resonate with the force user for maximum output. Typically the average force user has a blue or green gem. Sometimes a force user is able to use a higher quality crystal. Then again its been a while since Ive read anything more about the EU other than the star wars/zombie mash up which I enjoyed.
 
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Phoenix Prime_sl said:
The lightsaber batteries and bad crystals I can believe. The attached battery with cable makes sense and is sort of the only advance in tech you really see in the whole EU. Aesthetic's of weapons and ships may change but everyone uses hyperdrive's, everyone still does the Kessel Run, no one has explored past the rim or really advanced tech much in 5000 years. We got wireless lightsabers in 5000 years. *nods*

The crystals have to be just right and resonate with the force user for maximum output. Typically the average force user has a blue or green gem. Sometimes a force user is able to use a higher quality crystal. Then again its been a while since Ive read anything more about the EU other than the star wars/zombie mash up which I enjoyed.
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Yeah, I get it, it's all gay. Those crystals damn well better be just right or the midochlorians aren't going to resonate right in those light sabers.People actually read this shit and liked it?
 
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What do midichlorians have to do with bad saber crystals? You know that non-force users could use light sabers just fine right?
 
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yea, lightsabers aren't powered by the force man. They're gadgets with components. The crystals are just something they use to make them.

The cool jedi trick is that they have the on button inside the case, in a unique spot, so only the owner can turn it on and off, with the force.
 
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Phoenix Prime_sl said:
The lightsaber batteries and bad crystals I can believe. The attached battery with cable makes sense and is sort of the only advance in tech you really see in the whole EU. Aesthetic's of weapons and ships may change but everyone uses hyperdrive's, everyone still does the Kessel Run, no one has explored past the rim or really advanced tech much in 5000 years. We got wireless lightsabers in 5000 years. *nods*

The crystals have to be just right and resonate with the force user for maximum output. Typically the average force user has a blue or green gem. Sometimes a force user is able to use a higher quality crystal. Then again its been a while since Ive read anything more about the EU other than the star wars/zombie mash up which I enjoyed.
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It's better (or worse) than that. Technology has actually degraded over the course of time. There are ancient races who did amazeballs things that have been lost. Someone built centerpoint station that was evidently used to pull celestial bodies around and make things like the maw. Don't even get me started on the rakatans, cause i'm still not clear on what they did. All i know is that in a universe with jedi, rakatan technology is the shit that's like magic. In fact, speaking of rakatans, it might have been rakatan tech that allowed them to clone force users.

If it makes you feel better, in the dawn of the jedi series, 25,000 years before EP IV, there are no hyperdrives and no light sabers. They use swords made of metal and fly for months to hop between the 2 or 3 planets they can reach.

Oh and in the EU they've covered why no one has gone outside the galaxy. Some sort of bubble that can't be penetrated. Fuckers usually bounce right off, and those who do make it are never heard from again. Theoretically unable to get back in. Except the Yuhzan Vong, somehow.
 
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Except they don't need to cover why nobody has gone outside the galaxy. Because galaxies are so far apart that trying to go between them with a hyperdrive is slower than going between star systems in a sublight drive. That is the dumbest thing about the Yuuzhan Vong invasion, and the dumbest or scariest thing about the Tyrannids in WH40K.
 
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Agraza_sl said:
yea, lightsabers aren't powered by the force man. They're gadgets with components. The crystals are just something they use to make them.

The cool jedi trick is that they have the on button inside the case, in a unique spot, so only the owner can turn it on and off, with the force.
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that explains why han solo couldn't use the damn things.
 
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etchazz_sl said:
Do you realize how fucking gay this sounds? Stealing DNA, light saber batteries, bad crystals. Thank God I never read these books.
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I read a bunch of the books back in my teens. Some of them were pretty damn good and well written. Others were... well... terrible. There's one thing that really irked me about the books and that was when some of the authors (or it could have been just one, can't remember) took Yoda's "size matters not" to it's (il)logical limit. It's not just rocks vs single seat fighters, but in one scene a Jedi cures another person of poison (or cancer, or whatever) by Force-reaching into her body to pull out the poison molecules one at a time. In another a group of Star Destroyers are orbiting a planet and the Jedi force pushes them out of orbit. At that point it just didn't make any sense any more. If the Force truly was limitless, then the Emperor would never have needed the Death Star. Just Force Push a planet out if it's orbit so it falls into it's star.

But the thing that killed the books for me was how much of it was worse than terrible fan-fic. I remember buying the first book in the Young Han Solo trilogy written by some woman. I got through half of it before I realised I was just reading her wet dream. /shudder!
 
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Furry_sl said:
that explains why han solo couldn't use the damn things.
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While a cool idea, and one that I wouldn't have an issue with. Not universal. Han used Lukes Lightsaber just fine. And of course Luke turned his on in the first time, in Obi wans hut, without using the force.

Standard excuse is "you'll poke your eye out kid." An energy sword in the hands of a normal person is just a good way to cut your own limbs off.
 
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Hoss_sl said:
It's better (or worse) than that. Technology has actually degraded over the course of time. There are ancient races who did amazeballs things that have been lost. Someone built centerpoint station that was evidently used to pull celestial bodies around and make things like the maw. Don't even get me started on the rakatans, cause i'm still not clear on what they did. All i know is that in a universe with jedi, rakatan technology is the shit that's like magic. In fact, speaking of rakatans, it might have been rakatan tech that allowed them to clone force users.

If it makes you feel better, in the dawn of the jedi series, 25,000 years before EP IV, there are no hyperdrives and no light sabers. They use swords made of metal and fly for months to hop between the 2 or 3 planets they can reach.

Oh and in the EU they've covered why no one has gone outside the galaxy. Some sort of bubble that can't be penetrated. Fuckers usually bounce right off, and those who do make it are never heard from again. Theoretically unable to get back in. Except the Yuhzan Vong, somehow.
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Yuhzan Vong and ET's.
 
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Yeah I never heard of lightsabers being constructed so only someone with TK could turn them on. Grievous also had no problem using the lightsabers of Jedi he had killed. Pre Viszla was able to fight Obi-Wan to a stand-still in a saber duel and it wasn't until Obi-Wan used the force against him directly that the fight went his way.

The main edge Jedi have with lightsabers is the ability to do things like deflect blaster bolts, which requires precog and isn't something a non-force user could do.
 
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Gavinmad_sl said:
Except they don't need to cover why nobody has gone outside the galaxy. Because galaxies are so far apart that trying to go between them with a hyperdrive is slower than going between star systems in a sublight drive. That is the dumbest thing about the Yuuzhan Vong invasion, and the dumbest or scariest thing about the Tyrannids in WH40K.
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The tyrannids sort of makes senese. Once they devour everything they can find in one galaxy the big hive masses just launch themselves at another one and go sleepy time. They are a pretty self contained ecosystem as is and have no pressing needs/desires other than hunger so are pretty content to just take as long as it takes to find the next all you can eat buffet
 
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kaid_sl said:
The tyrannids sort of makes senese. Once they devour everything they can find in one galaxy the big hive masses just launch themselves at another one and go sleepy time. They are a pretty self contained ecosystem as is and have no pressing needs/desires other than hunger so are pretty content to just take as long as it takes to find the next all you can eat buffet
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Not to try and provoke a full blown derail, but the fact that the tyrannids have attacked from 3-4 different spots, including from underneath the galactic plane, suggests that they either have some sort of mustering point in the void outside the galaxy, OR they're coming from multiple galaxies at once. Which means the milky way could theoretically be the last galaxy in the universe that the tyrannids haven't consumed yet.
 
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Agraza_sl said:
It's mentioned quite a few times in the books. Yea, I know it's not present in the movies at all.
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Yeah I'm fine with it, it's not far fetched or anything, you just put the on/off switch inside the mechanism instead of having a big obvious 'PRESS ME TO ACTIVATE LASER SWORD OF DEATH' button on the outside.
 
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