[NO Spoilers] Star Wars: Episode 7 - NO PUSSY SHIT

elidib

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I looked up Lawrence Kasdan to see what else he had written, and it's worse than we thought. He wrote the screenplay for Dreamcatcher.

Let that sink in.
 

Grizzlebeard_sl

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Think you're being a bit harsh on him. Yeah, he had some turkeys but most people would kill to have Empire Strikes Back and Raiders of the Lost Ark on their resumes. Body Heat, Accidental Tourist, and The Bodyguard were all successes as well and grudgingly Jedi (fuck all Ewoks). I kind of also enjoyed Wyatt Earp.
 

Blakkheim

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I was just looking through some of this concept art the other day and started thinking, JJ needs to have this fucker roll through on the opening screen. Perhaps chasing a Millenium Falcon. Or even better yet, have the opening scene in space with distant stars scattered across the black of space, then as the camera pans towards the Millenium Falcon racing away, the camera pans out further to reveal that what you thought were the stars in the distance are actually just the lights from this thing.

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Xeldar

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This only raises further questions, that's a big fucking ship. When the Imperials are DESTROYED, how the fuck do they find the funding, a neutral corporation and spacedock to build it, and enough competent Space Nazis to run it?
 

Azrayne

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Honestly, that's past the point of 'cool' big and getting to the point of 'that's just stupid' big.
 

iannis

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That's just nonsensical.

It would take millions to crew that juggernaut. I mean seriously, even if they're cloned, especially if they're cloned, what the fuck would be the point? Why even fight over planets and planetary governments if you're able to build and maintain something that ludicrous? Just build 5 or 6 of those things and roam around sucking all the resources out of star systems, laugh at the Jedi squad who managed to heroically take over deck 354621-A while you were doing it, and move on to the next system.
 

Blakkheim

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This only raises further questions, that's a big fucking ship. When the Imperials are DESTROYED, how the fuck do they find the funding, a neutral corporation and spacedock to build it, and enough competent Space Nazis to run it?
At the end of ROTJ, I don't know if we can necessarily conclude that the whole empire was defeated and wiped out. We know the emperor was killed and we know the death star was destroyed but thats about it. The rebels were still pretty small in comparison to the empire. You would have to assume that the empire would try to re-establish itself with a new leader of some kind but who knows. We have to have some sort of bad guys/empire etc for the new series.

As to the size of it, yeah its a bit ridiculous but is it any more ridiculous than a space station the size of a moon that can destroy planets? As big as this is, its still small compared to the death star, therefore, I don't see it being that outrageous to consider they would build it.
 

Blakkheim

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That's just nonsensical.

It would take millions to crew that juggernaut. I mean seriously, even if they're cloned, especially if they're cloned, what the fuck would be the point? Why even fight over planets and planetary governments if you're able to build and maintain something that ludicrous? Just build 5 or 6 of those things and roam around sucking all the resources out of star systems, laugh at the Jedi squad who managed to heroically take over deck 354621-A while you were doing it, and move on to the next system.
Everything you said here could also have been applied to the death star.
 

Kreugen

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It always seemed to me that the logical epilogue to ep6 was the galaxy fracturing into Empire, New Republic, and tons of now unaligned worlds who just want to be left the fuck alone after 30 years of civil war. Maybe the New Republic struggles so badly that 7 opens with major worlds deciding that crushing oppression and xenophobia is better than starvation and poverty, giving the Empire the resources to return to open war. Rather than win over planets at the point of the gun, they win them over by fooling the poor and hungry into thinking they'd be better off. You know, like every day in the middle east right now.

That or everything is rainbows and unicorns and suddenly, SPACE SITH! At last they reveal themselves to the Jedi, at last they have their revenge! (entirebackstory) And the opening shot of the Star Destroyer was actually General Skywalker's flagship, Starkiller I! Oh shit, lasers and explosions! Is that the Millennium Falcon, with really big guns stuck onto it!? But who is this oddly familiar pilot with buns in her hair and spunky attitude - is that Han and Leia's DAUGHTER? *SPLOOSH* Oh shit, Starskiller I is in trouble - but who just warped in!? It's Chancellor Solo! You're all clear kid, let's blow this thing and go home!

... okay I'll stop.


(the first sounds like the prequels and novels. Dry and obvious. The second is something Lucas would have written as a teenager. Somewhere in the middle, perhaps?)
 

Blakkheim

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It always seemed to me that the logical epilogue to ep6 was the galaxy fracturing into Empire, New Republic, and tons of now unaligned worlds who just want to be left the fuck alone after 30 years of civil war. Maybe the New Republic struggles so badly that 7 opens with major worlds deciding that crushing oppression and xenophobia is better than starvation and poverty, giving the Empire the resources to return to open war. Rather than win over planets at the point of the gun, they win them over by fooling the poor and hungry into thinking they'd be better off. You know, like every day in the middle east right now.

That or everything is rainbows and unicorns and suddenly, SPACE SITH! At last they reveal themselves to the Jedi, at last they have their revenge! (entirebackstory) And the opening shot of the Star Destroyer was actually General Skywalker's flagship, Starkiller I! Oh shit, lasers and explosions! Is that the Millennium Falcon, with really big guns stuck onto it!? But who is this oddly familiar pilot with buns in her hair and spunky attitude - is that Han and Leia's DAUGHTER? *SPLOOSH* Oh shit, Starskiller I is in trouble - but who just warped in!? It's Chancellor Solo! You're all clear kid, let's blow this thing and go home!

... okay I'll stop.


(the first sounds like the prequels and novels. Dry and obvious. The second is something Lucas would have written as a teenager. Somewhere in the middle, perhaps?)
I always took the events of ROTJ as merely the end of the beginning with the war with the Empire, not the end itself. A similar analogy would be like the battle of Midway in the Pacific during WW2. Midway was a crushing defeat for the Japanese and it sent them reeling back. It was a major turning point in the war. But it was by no means the end of the war. We still had three more years of fighting ahead of us with some of the most brutal battles still to come.

That's my take anyway. It honestly pains me to see how involved Lucus still is in this thing. You just know he's going to try some more totally fucked up nonsensical plot line shit if he has his say in it.
 

Chris

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Jar Jar Bink's "Weesa Frweee!" at the end of RotJ makes rainbow and unicorn land cannon.

Prepare for some space politics to tell us why things are bad to require the film to exist.
 

Silence_sl

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This only raises further questions, that's a big fucking ship. When the Imperials are DESTROYED, how the fuck do they find the funding, a neutral corporation and spacedock to build it, and enough competent Space Nazis to run it?
A mysterious jedi ordered it and kept it hidden, just like that one guy who ordered the clone army without anyone knowing about it.
 

Runnen

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While I don't necessarily agree with the design of the above ship, I don't think people who are thinking "How did they get money for that after the Death Star exploded?" are in the right either.

You're all basing these questions on the fact that such a ship has never been seen in the previous trivia about existing movies, but they already said that these new movies have little to do with the expanded universe, so if Lucas/J.J. suddenly decide that this big ass ship existed all along and the Rebels never knew about it, well it does now.

Also, about a ship that size requiring millions to crew, well that's more or less dealt with in the old Timothy Zahn books (I know they're not using the Thrawn trilogy but still a good concept) where huge ships (not anywhere close to that size but still destroyer-sized) could be manned by one person thanks to a shitload of automated systems, and you could even have one ship controlling several other unmanned ships in a fleet.

That said, you should expect to see big ridiculous ships because even if this is a revered franchise, it's still Hollywood and to them, the recipe to making bigger bucks in a sequel is to make everything bigger, flashier and with more explosions.